Free hosted sites for link lists???
 

Figured this would be a good place to ask this question. :)

What would you like to see on free hosted free sites for link lists?

Number and size of pics, number of galleries, on it's on domain, etc, etc, etc....

Hugs,
Danielle

OCCash will have FHS with the release of V2.

Danielle email me jay@occash.com if you are interested in getting in on the beta test.

hmmmmmm.....

Why did you hijack my thread???????

I was asking what free site owners want. Not who offered free hosted free sites.

???????

Hugs,
Danielle

Danielle I have that feeling that Jay just misunderstood your thread and didn't want to hijack anything :)

Not cool Jay :(

Danielle - Oddly enough, you did hit on something that a lot of sponsors probably don't think aobut & that's the domain that the hosted sites & galeries are on - some of them are worse than using the sponsor's program domain when it comes to looking at the URL & wondering if the surfer would click on it (if there was no mouseover) I like ot see surfer friendly domains & hell, even use the domains that the paysite is on (or some variation of that if you can't put them on that same domain)

Basic free sites are pretty much what I'm looking for - warning page leads to main page leads to 2 gallery pages of 10 pics each (10/page is the minimum with most link lists - you can go over this if you need to depending on the design of the galleries)

I'm not really concerned with seeing my recip on there, but - and I don't mean to hijack the thread either - LOL - Outback Cash just added a feature where youc an add your own recips to the galeries & free sites if you wanted them on there, which is a nice little benefit :)

The sites should also have a theme to them and - maybe most important these days in the world of outsourcing crap - A ACTUAL NAME FOR THE SITE! I can't tell you how many sponsor's are clueless to this, probably because they only know hosted galleries, which don't need to have a "site name".

You should also steer away from using the same template over & over & over & over - if you're gonna release 10 hosted free sites a week, have 10 different templates & use tem once a week to keep things looking fresh :)

There's probably more, but that should give you a good start :)

Thank you Greenguy,

That is the exact type of feedback I was looking for.

Hugs,
Danielle

GG pretty much said it all. And the recip thing is a GREAT idea. I also agree with the domain thing. I hate it when they are just some weird ass url with a million characters and numbers in them.

GG hit on most topics that I was looking for however, I'm just gonna rattle off my list.

2-3 galleries of 10-15 pics each.

150x150 sized thumbnails (larger saves bandwidth and looks better)

Site NAMES and DESCRPTIONS that make sense

Categorized by CATEGORY and crosscategorized by the site its promoting

Personalized Ads that are related to the content promoting an appropriate site. (For example if its "Teen Marissa's Playhouse" and the content features Marissa, if the ads feature Marissa that's an extra added bonus)

Personalized pages that include the TITLE of the site in nice big bold obvious letters

No TEMPLATES! Sites that look the same as the last one is bad. Different colors, different ads, different layouts. Even if you guys think You've hit THE best template in the world, variety is important.

A large number of sites. 10 is not enough. 20 isnt either! Keep them coming.

Make more sites every week. Hire a guy who does nothing but build galleries and sites for you. Make sure he cranks out the sites. I hear MML does great FHS work ;)

Do NOT, i repeat do NOT, think that a "free site" is a page that links to two of your free hosted galleries! This is a ripoff! Especialy when the two galleries contain different content! I dont know if other people agree with this but, its a pet peeve of mine. It just REEKS of laziness. Surfers want ONE set per site, of the same person. If they like the content, they want 20-30 pictures, not 10!

Lots of Text and Lots of Graphics. Variety again is important. Some ads should use exclusively text, others should use mostly graphics. Let one gallery sell on words, the other sell on nice graphics. This allows you to effect surfers that are effected by both :)

Alternative Uses for Traffic: Outback cash has the right idea! :)

Okay, I am a little confused, and need to clarify this as I am soon to branch out from TGP galleries to free sites.

If I am understanding you correctly, Boogie, if I build a free site promoting a BDSM sponsor, and say, I have 2 sets of content (paid content, if it matters) of chicks in a cage....

You are saying it is not okay to use content set #1 on gallery one and content set #2 on gallery two?

If that is accurate, I am going to run into problems, as some of the content sets I have purchased aren't big enough to give me 20 pics of the same model. I have tended to purchase smaller sets that showed variety within the set, rather than huge sets where the chick moves her arms two inches in each pic.

Thanks much for any advice!

|newbie|
~selena

selena - Boogie was just giving his opinion of what is better for free hosted sites. 1 set of pics in the first gallery, and a different set of pics in the second gallery is fine. Just make sure that both sets are of the same thing. (blowjobs, anal, or whatever)

Thanks to everyone that has posted. Please keep the ideas coming.

When I release the free hosted sites I want them to be liked by link lists and also convert well.

Hugs,
Danielle

Yeah its mostly personal preference, but, when applicable try to make it 20 pics from the same set. Series pics make sales.

Hmmmm, I never thought of it from a surfers clicking point of view. I was looking at it from a webmaster seeing the domain, and checking it out and from a SE spiders point of view. Anyone linking to mine, feel free to put a surfer friendly mouse over on my links. Just wasn't looking at it from the right point of view.

Thanks, jennnym and Boogie :)

Just wanted to make sure there was not some unwritten law of the jungle that I had missed.





|newbie|
~selena

A unique name (not the paysite name) and description per free site is very important IMO and where most sponsors fail.

While descriptions are probably a good thing for some people, I always use my own anyway, as it's my site & the descriptions have to have a similar feel to them.

Got another question for link list owners. Would you prefer the full size pics to be on html pages or not?

Hugs,
Danielle

I'll guess that most will prefer them to NOT be on html pages :)

Goodness me... some excellent suggestions are here for free hosted sites.

I too would prefer full size pics NOT to be on html pages

Great thread :)

My appologies, I really thought you were asking who offered free hosted sites to send traffic to.

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Back on topic: I would like to give the webmasters on / off html pages and maybe even offer big pic linking to sponsor - then let the LL owner choose the configuration to suit their rules or allow them to bend them seeing as it's their own traffic.

Back in my days of free site building, I always have found that a considerable number of sales come from html pages with the big pic or video. If the surfer sees something that they want to see more of - you might as well make it as easy as possible for them to get there.

First I want to thank everyone that helped.

Here is what I have so far. Would love to hear all feedback both good and bad on it.

Also if you think you can jazz the text up on the site please feel free to post your thoughts.

This would be a minimum link to the free hosted free site.

http://www.myamateurpage.com/naked_i...php?a=Danielle

a=affiliate_code

You can add the following options to the link.

e tells what page you want links to the sponsor site to access. It can be "tour" or "join" tour links to the tour and join links directly to the join page. Other tours will be added soon.

e=tour
e=join

h tells the free site if it should place the full size pics on html pages or not.

h=y
h=n

i is the ad id you want to track. This can be anything you want as long as it is alphanumeric.

i=fpa1
i=banner3
i=text5

f tells the free site if it should display an FPA between the index and main pages.

f=y
f=n

If you want to include a link back to your link list the following two variables would be used.

p tells the free site what page to display your link back.

p=index
p=main

r is the URL to the html code snippet to include on the page.

r=http://www.linklistsitename.com/code_snippet.html

Hugs,
Danielle

Damn Danielle, that is some extensive coding there! That sure makes my simple SSI hosted free sites linking look, well, simple! I sure wish I knew how to code. I'm sure LL owners are going to love all the options you're offering!!

This is too complex for the average newbler. You would need to write a serious script to generate every possible configuration of choices. If not, webmasters would try and piece it together themselves, make mistakes, the links would wind up broken, and the you would get slammed on the boards for doing things you clearly never meant to do.

If you're capable of writing the coding to accomplish the use of that many variables then why the hell not.

As an example - Medium Pimpin has a number of options for their hosted gals - their link creation tool for wms makes it easy to get the code right.

Re: Free hosted sites for link lists???
 

20 pic min
2 galleries
I dislike "...freehosted/12/..." shit
Same title on all pages. Example: index page title "XXX Hardcore", main page title "XXX Hardcore - Main", gallery page title "XXX Hardcore Gallery 1", etc.

Size of thumbs at least 130 on long side. Full size pix min 600 on long side.

No java script

different look to each site. Just plugging in different pix in the same tired old template won't work for me.

Any more questions?

That's a lot of options! I sure hope there's a default setting that:

Links to the main tour
Doesn't have pics on html pages
Has no FPA

:)

I see your concern. This will be available as an option. They can use the simple code that only contains their affiliate ID if they want.

What we are going to do is make a very easy to use link generator. The affiliate just checks off some check box's and fills out the optional ad id and URL and it generates the link for them.

The link generator will use the KISS principal. :)

Hugs,
Danielle

Yep it does have default settings. Any variable left off has a default.

Currently the defaults are.

Has FPA
Pics on HTML pages
Link to Tour

The reason for the above is since the sites will also get search engine traffic we set the defaults to what makes us the most money.

This way any link lists that don't like FPA's or pics on html pages etc can turn them off easily.

I understand why you generally don't like pics on html pages because that gives you more to check. But, we make about 30% of our sales from html pic pages with text links on the bottom. At least this holds true in the single girl amateur market. Not sure about other markets.

Just curious why some link lists owners would have a problem with pics on html pages as far as sponsor provided free hosted free sites are concerned?

Hugs,
Danielle

What Danielle is saying is true. I don't submit my sites to linklists that do not allow pics on html pages.

I have a simple philosophy:

If the surfer is seeing free content - then the surfer should also be seeing an advertisement.

That's one the incentive to join a paysite - NO MORE ADS!

Besides the sales benefit, you can do SE stuff if you have more pages, and without the html pages "sites" are really only two galleries with some superfluous pages. Not to mention the pics can stay centered, the background remains consistent, and you can use --> “next pic” navigation on these pages!

The only legitimate reason I can see for not allowing them is cheating, which should not be an issue with your free hosted site. If you catch cheaters on html page: blacklist them, run them through the mud on the boards, and let your peers know who they are. In this day and age bad submitters are easy to weed out!

Wake up people the 90’s are over!

This is a great thread in regards to FHS's.

I have a question on the configurable recips part.

Would LL owners like to have just 1 recip configurable or more? For example they may have more than one LL themselves they'd like to link to or maybe for other reasons such as SEO purposes.

Would having these configurable recips be a plus as far as a deciding factor in using or not using that sponsors FHS's?

Thanks in advance for any further comments on this topic.

Cheers,
BV

The recip things doesn't really sway me one way or the other - the set up of the sites are the most important thing to me (hint - they should not look like 99% of the Hosted Galleries that are out there)

minimum 2 galleries and minimum 20 pics.
they dont like free hosted galleries. they are for structure like this,

domain.com/name/name/index.html (warning page)

domain.com/name/name/main.html

domain.com/name/name/gallery1.html

domain.com/name/name/gallery2.html
if you submit

domain.com/name/gallery1.html

domain.com/name/gallery1.html
thaey will dot accectt
And dont name warning pages like index1 index2 index3 like this .
they dont like.

maharaja - the rules for Hosted Free Sites differ just a bit from those of normal Free Sites that webmasters are building & submitting. For the most part, no one cares what the pages are named or how the directories are set up.