Don't You TGPOWNERS Want To Stop Being Screwed?
 

It would be funny if it were not so sad.
Why do You give away partner accounts? Do You want cheaters to earn money on that?
I KNOW HUNDREDS of cheaters who buy-sell partner accounts. That is stupid! Today partner accounts on TGPs HELP CHEATERS EARN MONEY.
There is a huge market of partner account trade - they are being sold out in PACKAGES. ALL major TGPs are there. There are firm prices etc. And who buys them? "Webmasters" who use exploits, redirects and other shit on their galleries. That IS SAD and that is unfair to the ones who spend time and money to gain skills in gallery building.
Don't You see the solution?

I don't have that problem. My TGPs are closed to public submits :D

No public submit? Then You have either partner submits or list FHGs or grab galleries from other tgps. All these solutions are not the best as i see it

Please enlighten me :)

Dare I ask what the solution is? :)

:) I won't. Cuz if You do not allow public submits Youdo not have problems with cheaters. That is ur way. But a lot of TGPs still accept partners nd close their eyes on cheats...

Yes. You are free to ask. Ask.


|rasta|

Can you give me a few examples of big tgps that you know ARE being screwed please. :)

Can You please give examples of big tgps that You know ARE NOT being screwed? Cuz this list will be much shorter.

Name a TGP and i will provide a price for the partner account on a "shadow market".

You know why i started the thread? Cuz it made harm to me and i am surprised that tgp owners are so blind...

What good are these, so called "shadow market" partner accounts when we can blacklist them with one click? Do you think we allow partners to flood us with tons of bullshit?

How long have you been operating a tgp, if I may ask?

As long as your careful who you give them too they help keep the cheats out they certainly dont help them.

I believe the answer to the "how to make it better" will be to only accept his gallery making people so that he can scrape them for 50% of the revenue.

But I could be wrong... |jester|

Alex

I just hope the Russian version of his site is better than the English.

There is no sense in partner accounts today cuz anyone can buy them and submit anything. That is the truth. ANYONE can obtain accounts for Shemp, Pichunter, Al4a, Madthumbs etc. Every account has it's own price. There are "webmasters" who earn money on reselling partner accounts only. I was shocked but this is how things are going and something must be done about that...

How many gallery mking ppl can You find? How many content etc will You need? That will be a head ache

Yes, we have the russian version cuz one of the partners is from russia and i must say they are honest and work hard. We are not widely open to western webmasters cuz need to have some more thing done

Hahahaha this thread gets my vote for the useless thread of the month...

Is it spam or an ethereal discussion about TGP ethics...? either way........

DD

Its neither. What he is saying is a warning to all sites that use partnership systems. Your partner accounts may be being resold to cheaters, so dont think that working on partner only is foolproof.

Shemp has replied on another board to this and has stated that he has found 17 occasions this year where Shemp partner accounts are being resold.

Shemp is a member of this board and could comment here if he wanted to.

Dude, I am using it as a point in case, not quoting on someone elses behalf. Im really quite surprised I have to explain something like that.

I'm really surprised you think we are that stupid.

Ok thats a fair point, but judging by some of the replies in this thread....

The guy raised a serious issue which quickly descended into a piss take on his English & his business plan. Therefore I thought it fair to acknowledge what he was saying on the off chance that the piss-takers didnt quite grasp it. Hence I used DD's post for emphasis & quoted Shemps post on another board as people respect him in the TGP world.

Its the easiest thing in the world to just jump on people on a message board, but there was a quite valid message beneath the broken English in this instance.

I guess you do :D

But only when necessary ;)

I have to repeat what was said on Shemps board. The best solution is domain/email/user/pass verification (not email/user/pass only). But it's quite rare to see it working on many tgps. Let's take pichunter or free6 - they got TONS of galleries redirecting traffic, etc, even though they have set up partner based submissions. Their surfers often get into trouble after clicking on the link to a gallery. When i tried to surf some major tgps guess what i got? Even good AV software won't help.
If only all tgps did set up domain verification "the world would be safer" (J.Buch). I think it's time to say that to AG team... I will raise the problem discussion on their board.

I had to face this problem when some hackers sniffed my passwords - i had to explain that thing to sveral tgp owners but not all of them believe that. Alas. The ones who spend their time andmoney, hardworking tgp owners and gallery builders, both are getting screwed...

PS
If any of english speaking webmasters would like to help us with the language and represent us on boards etc - welcome :-) We'll be public soon (I AM NOT SPAMMING - just answering about my "bad english" or smth). I speak french and chinese btw, so i assume my lang skills are not the worst out there ;-)

I am going to require DNA samples be included with your correct and verifiable home address, your parents names, your bank/CC numbers, etc. from now on.

I just thought I'd take a moment to say that my English comment has nothing to do the man's posts here, but is a comment about his website. Hell, the later it gets, them more broken my English becomes on these boards.

If this is such a big issue that everyone knows about, why hasn't anyone posted the url of these markets? You all seem to realize that it is unethical, but you aren't willing to help bring it out of the shadows.

I would like to find out more about these shadow markets too, but I think if Garou pm's it to people it may be better as the cheats will just realise their info is posted on a public board and go elsewhere. There is one TGP in particular that I would like to find out more about as I tend to give partnerships to people who have partner there.

Ok I'll play along even though I'm sitting in a hotel room a little hung over. :)

At first you said TGPs having partner accounts is not smart. Like already asked, what the heck is the solution then? Have no accounts and no public submits? How do we get galleries?

I have found people with more than one account at my TGP and banned them of course but the reality IS partner accounts at the best way to go No Question.

1. I will not post any urls here cuz i don't want to carry the risk and there will be no much harm to that "business"
2. Partner accounts is a very good thing to go with BUT only if every partners account is assigned to a specific domain. Thus f i have partner account for domainblabla.com i have no option of posting from another domain. (Check out pichunter - the silliest thing ever is to allow posting from multiple domains which are not specified at all. Cheaters just allow others to use those accounts for money cuz they don't build 5 galleries a day and thus hav the free spots or even worse - they make this kind of ads: "I am selling accounts on : pichunter (5 galleries a day), the shemp (3 galleries a day). Even if You post redirect You will earn much more then those $500 You spend on these accounts....").
Nowadays partner accounts do not only fail to prevent from cheating but also allow cheaters to earn huge $$$. There are ppl who are doing only 1 thing - getting partner accounts in order to sell them. This brings them more than 1 grant a month. Much more...

Isn't it really simple to assign partner accounts to speific domains?

So what exactly is the point of this thread...

IF a TGP has people selling their partner accounts.. then that is THEIR problem... to deal with.

I am sure Shemp and others are on top of this..

I don't see where this has anything to do with Garou and what he is possibly saying.

Arguing that partner accounts are to blame or are flawed is just not correct.

DD

He's making a good point, but should've said it in the original post.

To prevent cheating/selling of partner accounts, they should include:

name
email
domain(s)

But that would kill all of the drama...

my favorite post....

|violin|

that was a joke. I am sorry if You thought that i really meant that.


|waves|

|smooch|

yep, this thought came to me after i've started the thread. Anyways it needs to be discussed. At the moment i do not see any cons, pros only.

lol

True, but that's the thing I love most about GG&J. It's been a little elevated the last few days, but it's usually blissfully drama free over here. |greenguy|

Drama, what drama? ;)

Don't you start with me now! You'll get a spanking. |whip|

Yummy |bananna|

Piss (aka drama) is good for a board :D