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Altheon 2005-02-22 03:24 PM

Honest WM Blacklisted
 
Thanks to stuveltje I went and checked some of my domains for blacklistinging and what do you know, all of my domains are banned for the same reason: "bogus whois hosting"

I have no idea why I got blacklisted for this. I have a dedicated server at The Planet so I am my own webhost. As far as my Whois data is concerned all my contact info is correct except for the phone number which is my JFax number.

I've always been an honest webmaster that uses the same name and e-mail to submit. It's even the same name that I use on the boards. I've never changed my sites or redirected traffic. I've done everything I could to be an honest webmaster yet I've been thrown on the dreaded blacklist. I’ve submitted an appeal for a couple of my domains but it looks like all my domains are blacklisted even the ones I have never used to submit free sites.

I hope the person who blacklisted: sorority-sex.com will see this and see that I’m not just some fly-by-night webmaster that has almost a full year of consistent honest posts.

Regards,

-Altheon

Greenguy 2005-02-22 03:37 PM

My bad. Well, not me personally, but there's no need to throw anyone under the bus

|bus|

I took the ones that you appealed off - if there's more on there, just appeal them & reference this thread & I'll get them removed.

Oh - the reason - long story short, we've been looking into the nameserver's & checking them for actual legit sites if something look suspicious & since you're is "Coming soon" we over-reacted - sorry.

Altheon 2005-02-22 04:03 PM

Thank you Greenguy for taking care of this for me. |headbang|

Overall, It's sad that link list owners like yourself have to do so much policing of the submissions. The cheaters are affecting everyone in this biz.

Regards,

-A

Greenguy 2005-02-22 04:07 PM

I agree. We see one common thing that some scumbags are doing & then we look for that thing when we're patrolling things & every now & then we fuck up & get a legit webmaster, like you :(

Again, sorry about all this :)

Raven 2005-02-22 04:15 PM

Very cool, Greenguy.

stuveltje 2005-02-22 04:59 PM

grin looks like i am a trouble maker like opti said, very cool GG:D

Raven 2005-02-22 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuveltje
grin looks like i am a trouble maker like opti said, very cool GG:D

You're the best kind of trouble maker...:)

stuveltje 2005-02-22 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven
You're the best kind of trouble maker...:)

well thank you raven ..i just hope there are enough webmasters who will ask the why and wanna fixed it, say i am a weeny:D

Opti 2005-02-22 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy
I agree. We see one common thing that some scumbags are doing & then we look for that thing when we're patrolling things & every now & then we fuck up & get a legit webmaster, like you :(

Again, sorry about all this :)

GG, what is the current position with revsharehosting and the BlackList?

Is the reason acceptable to get unbanned?

"www.hazelsharem.com is banned - Reason: FreeHost

While it's registered at RevShareHosting, it's actually hosted at p4host.com"

Sounds like a similar story as Dan from Wild Unicorns had a while back.

(I'm not vouching for this person btw, just asking the question)

Greenguy 2005-02-22 06:04 PM

If they pay a bill for hosting, it's OK - if they don't pay a bill, it's "free hosting" & added to that portion of the blacklist.

Opti 2005-02-22 06:11 PM

thanks.. that should please them :-)

plateman 2005-02-22 06:29 PM

Wow thats bad and I hope nobody thinks my whois is bogus someday and I checked mine and my regstar doent give much info but enough..

sundiver 2005-02-22 06:44 PM

just checked blacklist and found my domain there:

foxypussy.net appeal
Reason: bogus whois hosting

all my whois info is correct. appealing now.. hope it will help. :)

plateman 2005-02-22 06:50 PM

sundiver if you put your name server in a browser you get a porn page, looks like your host is in the porn biz and I've deleted and blacklisted for that..

sundiver 2005-02-22 06:55 PM

hmm... thanks for your reply. I'll hit my hosting owner up, hope he'll be able to explain this situation.

btw, and why it is bad if my hosting is in porn business?

Linkster 2005-02-22 07:12 PM

Actually its not bad to have your host in the porn biz - however it is bad to use their free hosting for submissions - the nameserver is on their free host

sundiver 2005-02-22 07:17 PM

it is not a free host as far as I pay for it.

Linkster 2005-02-22 07:25 PM

They charge you to promote their stuff on their host??? I havent seen an affiliate program that does that - they might take a piece of the sales, that I have seen before - revsharehosting type stuff

sundiver 2005-02-22 07:29 PM

who are "they"? I promote these programs on this domain: www.g3x.com, www.onrequestbucks.com, www.spacash.com. also I used to promote signup4cash on this domain and I have links to pussycash and flashcash from my 404 page.
so who are "they"? :)

MrMaryLou 2005-02-22 07:33 PM

What is your hosting companys name?

Linkster 2005-02-22 07:44 PM

MML - thats why I was asking - that DNS is AFREVENUE.com's free host - they offer free hosting to their affiliates - and its kinda hard to have a dns on a free host unless you are hosted on it?

AFRevenue 2005-02-22 07:54 PM

Hello

It is my hosting... i.e. it is my dedicated server in APS Communications datacenter.
I'm just trying to start a small hosting business. It is not a free hosting, of course... I sell virtual hosting accounts.
Nameserver is also my own.

AFRevenue 2005-02-22 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster
AFREVENUE.com's free host - they offer free hosting to their affiliates - and its kinda hard to have a dns on a free host unless you are hosted on it?

Sorry... I just use one nameserver for my freehost and for my payhost too.
May be it's wrong...
But I have only one affiliate program, afrevenue.com, with two pay sites.
And all, based on my DNS, domains, which promote another affiliate programs, are on my pay hosting (and on another server).


P.S. I'm going to escape from offer a free hosting to my affiliates... Cause now "free host" becomes a "banned host" by default.

AFRevenue 2005-02-22 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaryLou
What is your hosting companys name?

I'm just a beginner in hosting deals (2 months only)... my company has not a name yet.

AFRevenue 2005-02-22 11:08 PM

Short historical note (just for fun)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster
They charge you to promote their stuff on their host??? I havent seen an affiliate program that does that

When I was brawny tall blonde, several years ago, and just made my first steps in the adult biz...
I was posting my galleries and free sites from affiliate program's hosting... and pay $3 per gigabyte (It was deducted monthly from my payouts).
It was when sky was blue and grass was green and when usual revenue distribution in partnership programs was 30/70 (in program owner favor), and own domain was a quitly cool thing ( I had one!!! )

RawAlex 2005-02-23 01:06 AM

Ummm, I would ban your stuff on the basis of having coolwebsearch on the front page. I would never allow anyone who promotes those scumbags to get one hit of my traffic if at all possible.

Free hosting is a dead end issue when it comes to link sites - it just isn't permitted anymore. More and more the bigger TGPs are not interested in dealing with people on free hosts either. Sponsor free galleries and free sites have eliminated the need to add a freebie middle man into the picture anymore.

Alex

AFRevenue 2005-02-23 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
Ummm, I would ban your stuff on the basis of having coolwebsearch on the front page.

Which LL rule it breaks?

RawAlex 2005-02-23 11:01 AM

AF, it's the most basic rule of them all:

Quote:

We reserve the right to refuse listings and service to anyone. This is a private website. You can be declined, refused or have your listing removed for any reason. We reserve the right to blacklist domains, email addresses, hosts, and IP addresses without notice, and without notification. If you submit multiple sites that violate the rules, you domain(s) will be blacklisted without notice. We do NOT send decline messages. If your don't like it, get a lawyer and waste your money. :-)
Basically, coolwebsearch is one of the most annoying and consistant spreaders of scumware on the planet. People have lost untold millions (if not billions) of dollars trying to get that shit off their computers. Anyone (and I mean anyone) sending traffic to them is on my lifelong shitlist, for aiding and abetting a company I consider scumbags.

Alex

Verbal 2005-02-23 11:14 AM

I'm with RawAlex on this one. It's some of the worst scumware I've seen. Anyone who knowingly promotes this stuff should be banned for life.

coolwebsearch |raygun|

Jel 2005-02-23 11:18 AM

Having been infected I gotta agree here too....

sundiver 2005-02-23 11:53 AM

it's very nice, but what is my fault? MY freesites which do not break any rules will be declined just because you don't like the front page of my hosting provier's site? wow.
there are no cws ads on MY sites and I'm not going to work with them.

AFRevenue 2005-02-23 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfnmparty
Having been infected I gotta agree here too....

I'm ready to remove cws advertising from my frontpage.... if it is the reason of penalties.

But:
You confuse a reason and effect..
You wasn't infected with a "coolwebsearch". You was infected with adware (trojans) which was used for cheating a coolwebsearch system.

I'd got some nasty trojans and dialers two years ago when check a listing on thehun.net and easypic.com.
But it doesn't mean that TheHun and EasyPic are scumbags. It just was a redirect (cheating).

RawAlex 2005-02-23 07:18 PM

AFrevenue: Are you kidding? Cool Web Search itself as a company has an entire section which exists only to come up with new ways to infect and MAINTAIN the infection on end user's computers. That isn't some 3rd rate hacker spewing viruses, it is a business plan and concentrated effort by coolwebsearch itself to control the world by controlling the PCs by the use of trojans which are almost impossible to remove. They have literally HUNDREDS of variations of the infection just to keep it on your system.

You might want to consult google on this one. Did you know there is a tool called cwshredder? it is specifically made to try to remove the overwhelming collwebsearch infections.

As for the reason for the banning, I don't know. But i often investigate hosts by raising their home page to see what is there. If I see coolwebsearch, I think scam, and the host is immediately TOAST.

I am not 100% comfortable right now that you are a "host" in the normal sense, perhaps just a friend lending a friend some space.

Alex

RawAlex 2005-02-23 07:20 PM

As for the hun and easypic, that was material OUTSIDE of their site. They didn't get up in the morning and say "hey, let me link to this virus!". They were victims of redirects. Your are actively linking to one of the net's most hated companies.

You have made your business choice. There are results of that choice. That's all.

Alex

Altheon 2005-02-23 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Oh - the reason - long story short, we've been looking into the nameserver's & checking them for actual legit sites if something look suspicious & since you're is "Coming soon" we over-reacted - sorry.

Is there anything I can do to prevent this in the future? I put up my company's web site so it no longer looks completely unprofessional. :) But that was more of a knee-jerk response.

I would apprecate it if you could point me in the right direction.

Regards,

-Altheon

AFRevenue 2005-02-24 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
You might want to consult google on this one. Did you know there is a tool called cwshredder?

I did't know about any tools. Never had deals with a hacking, sorry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
I am not 100% comfortable right now that you are a "host" in the normal sense, perhaps just a friend lending a friend some space.

It was actually a payhost.
I don't know who am I now :(


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