Calling all honest linklist owners, I have something special for you.
 

Here it is.

I've been a gallery builder first and foremost from day one in this business, regardless of any other business I do. I know my galleries are good, my stats tell me that.

If you're willing to honestly look at my freesite when I submit it to you and if you don't like it but are willing to be honest & send me an e-mail even if it says "fuck off" then this is what I will do for you. I will do this regardless of your size of how much traffic you send.

I will do this on your integrity and the fact that you're not doing anything underhanded to leach my traffic in any way.

• I promise to build nice, attractive sites for you.
• I promise to follow the rules.
• I promise to use a real e-mail address, the one that comes to my outlook.
• I promise to run your recip.
• I promise to not remove your your recip for not listing some odd site, as long as you are honest with me day to day.
• I promise to use above average content, because this helps us both.
• I promise to not change the pages outside of the rules.
• I promise to not redirect anyone and I believe that even surfers from Croatia or Yugoslavia have a right to view porn.
• I promise to not remove the pages that I submitted.
• I believe there is WAY more money in playing fair than any cheater could ever make.

I have a list of you already to begin with. I'm submitting to you now.

If you're new or small or huge but honest and want my submits, just post your site.

If you don't want to, that's cool.

Finally, this is not a pissing match about why you don't send e-mails out. I have my own opinions about that and I don't care nor need your explanation.

Thank you :)

AST

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So those of us that do not send out emails are "dishonest"?

Good to know :D

Did it say that? I see it says "honest linklist owners .. willing to send mail. You can read it however you like.

As a matter of opinion think of this. A sponsor who collects addresses off of their join page and mails your surfer direct links.. is that cheating?

I guess to some people it is. They're getting at least some of your traffic and you get nothing in return.

I am one of the good webmasters. When I do business, I expect business back. There is no other option.

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You want us to post our sites if we agree? We run an honest list and I do send out rejection emails if there's a fixable problem on a site. I will not bother sending a rejection notice if the problem isn't something the webmaster can fix without just making a new site. Examples:
Site title is totally misleading - content doesn't match
Overused content - someone else submitted same content recently
Multiple rules violations - if you don't take the time to see what the submission rules are, I don't take the time to write you a nice letter.

As I said in the other thread, I send accept/reject emails. Feel free to apply for a submit account here: http://www.scorpiolinks.com/apply.php

Ok, I don't have either one of you in my recip table. I will add you right now.

You will be run alongside some large sites and I will get a very nice site out to you this afternoon just as soon as I get some time.

Thank you very much :)

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Hi AST,
I send out accept/rejection emails also, and would be glad to have you submit your sites :)

Thank you :)

I will have you added right away :)

I send accept emails and reject when its deserved some who continue to break rules get a few and then if they keep up I BL and lately I been BLing and sending very few reject emails..

I don't send rejection emails. Too much crap goes along with that. If that makes me dishonest, oh well. :)

I'm a crook. I have bad breath and bad hair too.

What dareutwo said. :)

Well at least you take the time to make sure I get that link-laden e-mail right after I submit, huh? ;)

Not only do you not send reject e-mails, according to my server stats you only actually review 1 out of 6 sites anyhow, so, you don't even know that your recip is on them along with sites that are actually sending traffic. (which, I have removed).

Yea, you're the cornerstone of honesty. Forgive me.

The thread to bitch in is: HERE , so please stop jumping my thread if you aren't going to "play by my rules". It's not posted for your own disgruntlement.

Thanks.

What I said.

Thanks.

cfnmparty
plateman
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added


Jays
Cleo
Verbal
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Removed. Thank you.

marks - umm.. does anyone ever go there ?

AST

OK peeps..a little clarification here...

AST DID NOT say that those of you that do not send out e-mails are dishonest. He simply said those of you honest webmasters that DO send out e-mails....he would like an opprotunity to do business with you.

If you are an honest webmaster that doesn't send out e-mails, there is no need to respond...if you are an honest webmaster that DOES send out e-mails, then it's a business opprotunity..PERIOD.

Why is that so hard to understand...he didn't even imply that you are not honest if you don't send out accept/reject mails...jeez people, are you just looking for an argument?

We don't send rejects every time.....most of our rejects are for very major reasons....IE missing images....horrible design....etc...

I 2nd dareutwo.

But do welcome your sites.....

XPorn

I'm not clear.

You don't send a reject mail if you just decide not to list it.

You do send a reject mail if it's a major infraction?

BTW..

I think I'm getting approval mails from you? I think you send those. That tells me at least you are reviewing sites and not skipping 5 out of 6 .. or .. reviewing them and just not listing any of them at all.

Ok. You get to stay.

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Yea....we try to email OKed sites.....actually am updating the script to verify emails are set when they are OKed. The rejected sites normally don't get emailed unless we know it was an honest mistake....as opposed to a recip table all mis-sized...and popups...etc.

Keep in mind...we remind all our submitters to use our search feature to find your domains.....ie search on rootdomain.com ad see what is listed.

http://www.freesitexxx.com/cgi-bin/xxxx/search.cgi

Submit here http://www.freesitexxx.com/cgi-bin/xxxx/add.cgi
and our other LL here http://www.theporncollection.com/cgi-bin/xxx/add.cgi

XPorn

Thank you.

Actually, your first post a few days ago about that search function is what got me started doing some free sites :)

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Great! Free sites vs TGP galleries are a different sorta creature....decent traffic up front....but SE traffic over the longer term....good luck!

XPorn

I do not send rejections emails, therefore, by your analogy, I am not honest.


BTW - This list:
That will get you listed everytime, no emails required :D

Yeah that is what I was thinking

I do send an e-mail if it is a regular submitter but then it is extremely rare that there is a problem with a regular submitter's site.

My site also has a search function if someone wants to look for their stuff.

This thread took a turn for the grey and ugly quickly :)

Sounds good to me.

Signup for a submit account here to submit freesites:
http://thextimes.com/linklist/users/login.php

The site is not launched yet (but you can still submit sites, read the rules, grab the recip, etc...), it will be up and running by Thursday March 10th at the latest. Feel free to submit your sites (up to 10 a day)...I will make sure I send out rejection emails if need be.

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Ok Mark, then answer this. When have you ever known me to fail calling a dog a dog. Face to face (on the boards, obviously), man to man? No matter WHO the playa is, was or thought they are? 12dicks, pumpsdogs even brad, who I really do admire in spite of the fact that he's a throbbing dick sometimes?

If I thought you were actually dishonest I would come to your board and post on the main forum why I thought it was so.

Not true or we wouldn't be here.


Jim.. how's that? I don't see it. I'm actually accomplishing 2 things. I'm finding out who won't tell me if they don't list me but let me run their link, and I'm cleaning up my recip table.

It's my opinion that if someone is willing to mail you if you get rejected, then they actually have time to review and add sites rather than click, forget and dump them.

No?

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You got it. Thank you.

The only ones complaining are the ones who don't send e-mails :)

All he is doing is trying to find places to submit free sites to that don't just reject his sites, and not tell him. That's it...if you don't do it like that then there was no need to respond, he never said it makes you dishonest. But why should we submit to those of you that don't let us know? If we wasted our time doing that, and you reject our sites, for whatever reason, we would still be running your recip and you'd potentially be getting traffic froma site you rejected, right?

So, by starting this thread, he was simply looking for those of you that are wiling to do what he asked..if you don't, then you don't, no need to post your info then :)

Honestly guys, the title of the thread created this poor tone. It does appear to imply that those of us who don't send rejection notices are dishonest, by making the sending of rejections synonymous with honesty. It's the very argumenative nature of this thread that is the reason many of us don't want to deal with angry rejected webmasters. I'm a small timer with no where near enough submissions to my list. I have plenty of time to review. I just don't have to time to argue about it.

That does bring up a good point - post some URL's that weren't listed & let me take a look at them :)



Lizzie - UW took the words out of my mouth )or off my keyboard as the case may be)

That may be if you feel that way, you have a right. However, it's not to say that if you don't send rejection mails you are dishonest.

If I send you 6 good sites and a) you review all but list none of them
or worse
b) you review 1 and dump 5 without even looking ..

Good sites we're talking about .. running your recip.. listed by other sites who are sending their traffic ..

Then we don't really call that honest business. And it's not because they just don't send out rejection mails, it's that they were either too tired, too bored or too whatever to even give a proper review.

Here's an analagy that fits close enough. Ok, all the TGPs popping up... You know that Russian Submitter (and other automated program) people work a lot of hours trying to toss out TGPs that do the same thing?

They just want that recip. It's not the same exactly, but close. Those are real cheaters, they never list a site or 100% CJ the ones they do list.

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Adult Traffic, I love listing sites that meet the criterias you posted, so feel free to submit away. I do not reject sites from my serious submitters or board members unless there is a very good reason (which would cause other LL's to not list it either). Also, many LL's prefer to use this board to handle rejection questions or concerns so that everyone can learn from it, which usually works better than emails. :)

UW nicely said, I can already feel the love growing in here again. |lovers|

OK, then why even post in this thread if you are one of the one's that doesn't send rejection e-mails? Just to argue? I don't get it...really...all we are looking for is people who will take the time to look at our sites, and if they reject them, just let us know so that we aren't running your recip....that is it.

You run your link list however you choose, if you choose not to let webmasters know that you rejected them and let them run your recip anyway, well, then, that says something right there I guess...

I realize everyone is soooo busy...but come on....

I like to list clean sites too, and I send out rejection emails when I feel like it :)
... meaning when the site isn't complete crap submitted with an autosubmitter...

Time to go to bed, Goodnight |cool|

I PM you one because I don't really like to post my stuff in public, but what the hell, I don't care.

Everyone, list them in your blacklist.

http://chloe-18.net/teen_sites/chloe...te/index.shtml
http://chloe-18.net/teen_sites/small...ts/index.shtml


http://www.teen-topenga.com/teen_sit...es/index.shtml
http://www.teen-topenga.com/teen_sit...te/index.shtml


http://www.trixyteen.net/teen_sites/...rs/index.shtml
http://www.trixyteen.net/teen_sites/...be/index.shtml

Lizzie - I was just about to tell you to read the other thread 1st - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=17265 - but then I remember who you were in regards to the thread starter :D

Yes, but it doesn't mean that I ALWAYS agree with him :)

In bed with the enemy.

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Interesting looking sites.......

Interesting looking stats.