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juggernaut 2005-04-21 11:31 PM

FLA?
 
Is it me or do I see alot of Adult companies comming out of Fla?

MrYum 2005-04-21 11:57 PM

Nope, don't think it's just you Juggernaut...there are a lot of adult biz folks in Fla.

Just moved here myself a few months ago...it's a great place to live if you dont' mind a lil heat in the summer. And some kinda windy days at times...lol.

Oh, and by the way...Welcome to GG & J!

pornrex 2005-04-22 01:54 AM

Hi juggernaut |waves|

I've often wondered the same thing but like MrYum says, many webmasters and sponsors are based out of there and I'm sure many more will be heading down in the future.

Pass by this thread and say hi if you haven't already!
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=18203

You'll be glad you did. |thumb

Head Boy 2005-04-22 05:21 AM

I thought they were all in England and Europe. :D

Joe 2005-04-22 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Head Boy
I thought they were all in England and Europe. :D

I thought so too, I see a majority of adult webmasters located in countries other than the US... For obvious reasons.

juggernaut 2005-04-22 11:30 AM

Is there any other reason to move there then hot girls, cheap housing, and great weather? I have some family down there and for the life of me to be honest lived there for a year in Boca. HAted it. To many Rich assholes. And it just seemed to be NYC's retirement home. But whats the advantage to moving there compaired to anyplace else from a business stand point?

cd34 2005-04-22 11:53 AM

There are many states that are tax advantaged and have desirable traits.

I think there are a few states that have no State Income tax: New Hampshire (no sales tax either), Delaware (No sales tax?), Nevada, Florida, parts of Texas. I moved from Maryland to Florida to avoid the 7.5% state tax I was paying.

Then there are other reasons to move to different states. My preferences were California or Florida. In Florida, you don't need to wear a wetsuit if you go in the water. California's water is a bit chilly until you get waaay south and I would have picked Huntington Beach/Long Beach.

If you have a Corporate Helicopter, you would have your corporation in New Jersey (I think), corporate aircraft like to be registered in Arizona for the tax benefits.

If I was going to do it over again, I'd move 65 miles east to the Bahamas and enjoy my 3% tax. 1.5% if your income is passive and you've retired.

There are a lot of New Yorkers, that is for sure. And many are blue-collar newly-rich people. People that bought a brownstone for $15k 30 years ago, worked 30 years for the same factory, sold their brownstone for $800k to a yuppie and retired to Florida, bought their Caddy and their gold necklace, but, maintained their frugal ways. The running joke around here is:

How do you ask a New Yorker for the time?
Pardon me, do you have the time or should I go fuck myself?

Another reason I moved here is that I was supposed to move to Barbados for a company, long story short, that fell through for a number of reasons and we decided to try and hire people. I lived right outside DC and you had other companies competing and pricing things rediculously to the point where employees were $60k versus $40k for equivalent people in Florida. The thought was, move to Florida, make it a desirable area, use that to attract the talent rather than the additional cash and get 3 employees for the price of two. That theory was sound, however, 13 days after moving, that guy wigged out and pretty much kicked two of us in the teeth.

Personally, I like it here a lot. Makes that trip in '86 during Spring Break where I told my then-girlfriend, I'm going to live in Florida seem almost prophetic. The true irony is that in '89, I almost bought a company that is 6 miles from where I currently live (and I moved here 10 years after that deal fell through).

There is a certain mystery behind whether you should do things that are the most tax advantaged, or just because you like an area. I never much liked the cold weather, my wife hated it more. That was another reason. The other thing that we got away with was that our house is 3x larger than the one we had in Maryland -- and with the savings in state income tax, this one costs us slightly less. That's a pretty strong statement. :)

And really, they're only rich assholes while you're not rich. haha

Cleo 2005-04-22 11:56 AM

Fucking Florida, it's full of perverts. :D

Why wouldn't you want to live here, it's beautiful and it's too hot to wear too many bits of clothing, I'm naked right now with all the windows open.

I love living here… most of the time. ;)
|hurricane|

Head Boy 2005-04-22 01:03 PM

I moved a girl friend to Tallahassee from San Francisco, and I used to go and stay with her for a few months in the year. I guess Tallahassee is not typical of FLA though. :)

juggernaut 2005-04-22 01:15 PM

I can surly understand the tax advantages as here in the armpit of america (NJ) there more shaddy politics then i care to think about. Like most people here we just give up as long as we are making an ok wage. Thank god my government job pays me well. Or Id still be living with mom, like my 38 year old bro. But thats another story. As far as the rich people were concerned. it wasnt that they were assholes so much as i think they never had touch with the real world or they just forgot about it. I remember two things that got me really pissed. 1 I was driving my then 83 toy truck and pulled up along side a blue hair ina 6 figure rolls convertable and she looked over at me. if looks could kill well then me an my truck would have blown up. the 2nd was when i changing the oil, i was in a college campus at the time full of rich kids. (no im not rich, just went there cause it was the only place i could get in) anyway the prince of Haiti walked up to me and asked if I was the owners mecanic and if I would mind doing his bmw next. LOL i said sure give me $200 and ill change the oil on a car where I have no clue were the filter is. Well he paid and it took me 2 hours cause the dam engine compartment was tight as hell. anyway hoppfully with some hard work over the next few years I can sell the condo and move down or at least close by. or at least more north tampa or so. well see.

Cleo 2005-04-22 01:17 PM

Tallahassee is part of Florida?

Yeah the Southeast coast (Boca, Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood, Miami) is very different then the rest of Florida.

MrYum 2005-04-22 01:53 PM

Yep, all the reasons stated above :)

I've always preferred a warmer climate...Florida certainly has that...lol.

No state tax...always a good thing...

And I was able to sell a townhouse in California for twice what I paid for a house with a pool...on over half an acre in Florida. Oh, and I'm in the gulf coast area...about 90 miles south of Tampa. The weather is pretty much perfect :)

Actually, just got out of the pool...beautiful day today...again :)

cd34 2005-04-22 02:51 PM

MrYum, are you around North Port/Sarasota? I've heard that is a really nice area. When we moved down, I considered Punta Gorda only due to the fact that you could get a house on a navigable canal that led to the ocean with pool, etc. for $250k -- which was an incredible price. No real airport nearby though. :)

I've looked at hotels on Sanabel/Captiva Island, but, not many are for sale right now. :)

pornrex 2005-04-22 03:11 PM

Wow, you Floridians are living the life. Here I am stuck in this shit hole called Toronto and day dreaming of Arizona because its the furthest thing to cold but from what I've read now, it sounds like Sarasota is the place to be. |thumb

Gonna have to research it though.

Cleo 2005-04-22 03:18 PM

Sarasota is on the west side of Florida. The west side is much more laid back then the Southeast side of the state.

I've seen a lot of folks in my area moving either further north or over to the west side to get away from the fast pace and congestion here. Personally I love it here.

Useless 2005-04-22 03:19 PM

Florida is where the sexy people live. It's just crawling with swingers. Fucking perverts. I have a rule: the better and more stable the climate, the more attractive the populus will be.

If it wasn't for the fact my oldest child is the offspring of someone other than my wife, we'd move to Florida. Of course, the older my daughter gets, I may just want her to go live with her mother. That'll teach her.

MrYum 2005-04-22 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd34
MrYum, are you around North Port/Sarasota? I've heard that is a really nice area. When we moved down, I considered Punta Gorda only due to the fact that you could get a house on a navigable canal that led to the ocean with pool, etc. for $250k -- which was an incredible price. No real airport nearby though. :)

Yep, actually...I'm in North Port :) Great little city...all the conveniences are close by, but my house backs up to a small canal...with green belt on the other side. Lots of privacy...even got my gf going topless and wearing a thong bikini...YUM! LOL!

The real estate agent I worked with has an awesome house in Punta Gorda...on a big canal. Took a lot of damage in the storms last season, but he's rebuilding...

Got airports in Tampa, Ft Myers...and one in Sarasota. None of em are huge, but can still get flights to where ya need to go :)

Compared to the SF bay area...prices here were a bargain. That said, the area is appreciating at about 3%/month....gotta love that!

Cleo is right...it's very laid back over here. Can honestly say that I have yet to run across someone who's rude or nasty. Folks are very friendly and helpful...food prices are good...yep, I'm a reborn Floridian |bananna|

Come on down cd34...you'd love it! Oh, and you can come to UW...soon as ya ditch the kid! lol

juggernaut 2005-04-22 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornrex
Wow, you Floridians are living the life. Here I am stuck in this shit hole called Toronto and day dreaming of Arizona because its the furthest thing to cold but from what I've read now, it sounds like Sarasota is the place to be. |thumb

Gonna have to research it though.

Oh man dont go to AZ spent some time there with work an all I could think of was what in the world ever got into someones mind to ride a horse out into the middle of no place and just decide it was a good spot for a town/city. Nothing there but catus and such little rain that it gets sucked up the moment it hits the ground. spend the extra bucks to hit a coastline. I grew up on the jersey shore (not that its great) but it always makes me wonder how people can live in land locked states/countries. I need some ocean, just something about it for me.

cd34 2005-04-22 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrYum
Come on down cd34...you'd love it!

I'd have to come 'up' :) I live further south than you. And while I live in the 'bustling' Southeast Florida, it is too slow for me.

It takes a lot for me to get used to the slow pace down here. I much preferred the business climate in Washington, DC. Contractors did things when they said they would. Down here, a local landscaper has 'We show up' on the side of his truck. In DC, if you had an appointment scheduled, they showed up promptly... every time.

I would go nuts on the West Coast of Florida. The slower pace is one of the few detractors from living in Florida for me.

Cleo 2005-04-22 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernaut
t always makes me wonder how people can live in land locked states/countries. I need some ocean, just something about it for me.

I feel the same way, love living near the ocean. I do miss being able to spend a day hiking in the country. We have swamps and nasty sticky biting things here plus it is just flat and boring. California was nice since it had hills and stuff but as cd34 said you can't actually go in the water for most of the state plus it is expensive and has a state tax.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd34
I would go nuts on the West Coast of Florida. The slower pace is one of the few detractors from living in Florida for me.

You are living on the border of bum fuck egypt up there. Come on down to Fort Lauderdale, it's feeling more and more like Los Angeles each year which is both a blessing and a curse. I dated a guy who lived up in Boca and I thought that I would go insane with boredom when I would stay with him. West Broward is another suburban hell. Why would you move down here and then buy a house in drained swamp land?

Downtown Ft. Laud. Finally has night life in the streets. It's nice just to be able to spend the evening walking around in the old town, River walk, Los Olas areas. Now if only we would get some decent theater and culture. I do really miss the lack of culture down here.

Fort Laud beach, I live just on the west side of the intercostal next to the beach, is still kind lame but improving.

Miami and South Beach is more city like but also like visiting another country. It is nice to go to South Beach every now and then.

Hollywood is right there in the middle and probably a good buy still.

MrYum 2005-04-22 09:29 PM

Well DUH! Sorry cd34...missed that you already live in the sunshine state...oops |dizzy|

But, it just goes to show...the whole different strokes thing...lol. I've had the busy life...something to do ALL the freakin time. These days...I really like lazing around by the pool. Or, firing up the bike and going for a ride on roads that aren't so congested like California. Or, watching my gf in her string bikini...that's always fun! lol

Of course, with slingin porn for a living...doesn't leave a hell of a lot of time for those things...but I keep hoping!

cd34 2005-04-22 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo
You are living on the border of bum fuck egypt up there. Come on down to Fort Lauderdale, it's feeling more and more like Los Angeles each year which is both a blessing and a curse. I dated a guy who lived up in Boca and I thought that I would go insane with boredom when I would stay with him. West Broward is another suburban hell. Why would you move down here and then buy a house in drained swamp land?

Spousal Unit had a lifelong friend (that she rarely talks to anymore) that lived in the area. I'm happy enough here that until I can afford the house I really want, I'm not moving again. And, when I do move, we're leaving the furniture and starting over.

Another close friend said, if you're going to buy real estate, and you want more than a zero lot line, Palm Beach County. Although, recently we have been seeing more Browardization up here. With my job, a city could have every desirable thing in the world and I wouldn't have time to enjoy it anyhow. That will change soon..... I hope.

Cleo 2005-04-22 11:45 PM

I don't really like the house I'm in. It has really low ceilings, was basically just a small two bedroom two bath winter home that had another large bedroom and small bath added to it with a porch so now it is a strangely laid out three three. I did just put a new roof on it and redid the inside so now its in great shape but it is still a landlocked low ceiling badly laid out house.

Florida has great homestead laws so as long as I live in it I'm getting huge tax breaks that I would loose if I sold or rented it so I don't see me moving ever unless I became extremely wealthy and could get a house in this area on the water.

pornrex 2005-04-23 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo
Sarasota is on the west side of Florida. The west side is much more laid back then the Southeast side of the state.

I've seen a lot of folks in my area moving either further north or over to the west side to get away from the fast pace and congestion here. Personally I love it here.

Its all settled: West Side it IS!! ;)

In all seriousness though, everyone makes a strong case for and against the westside, the offside, the eastside, the northside, the inside, the southside, and the backside. :D
And so it all comes down to personal preference: and that's as individual as each and everyone of us. For those of you in the know, your living proof and that my friends, is the UPSIDE. |thumb

FLA ALL THE WAY!

Greenguy 2005-04-23 07:44 AM

FLORIDA: America's Wang

:D

JanTM 2005-04-23 09:27 AM

If some states do not have state taxes... how do these states pay for whatever they have to pay for? How do they "earn their money"?

Cleo 2005-04-23 10:11 AM

I'm guessing that Florida pays for things with all its tourist income on goods and services sold to them. We also have a state lottery and other types of gambling plus citrus and sugar cane is grown here in the more remote parts of the state. Florida does have a state sales tax that you pay when you buy most things, not unprepared food. It's 6% but some cities like Miami have an additional .5% sales tax to pay for public transportation.

California has a state income tax but it also has better state services then Florida like education and health care for the poor. The cost of living in California is fucking insane.

Useless 2005-04-23 10:17 AM

Whereas in NY, we have one of the higher state income taxes and sales tax so that we can afford to keep NYC clean and crime-free. Ha!

All hail the rust belt.

JanTM 2005-04-23 10:27 AM

Cleo,
Ah I see. Amazing that .5% can actually pay for public transportation. Maybe we could learn something there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo
California has a state income tax but it also has better state services then Florida like education and health care for the poor. The cost of living in California is fucking insane.

Hehe... Whiner ;)

My income tax is 44%, and every item you can buy in a store in Denmark has a 25% sales tax on it. Of course the sales taxes are not shown seperately... prices are just higher. |angry|

pornrex 2005-04-23 10:37 AM

I was wondering when you were gonna pipe up :D

JanTM 2005-04-23 10:41 AM

eh?... pipe up?

Cleo 2005-04-23 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JanTM
Cleo,
Ah I see. Amazing that .5% can actually pay for public transportation. Maybe we could learn something there.

Yeah but it sucks. Actually it is just to pay for this bit of elevated train section that was built about 20 years ago plus another line that runs through downtown. It serves a very limited section of town.
This
http://www.co.miami-dade.fl.us/trans...ilstations.asp
and this
http://www.co.miami-dade.fl.us/trans...erstations.asp
The second one is a robotic rail with no driver.

pornrex 2005-04-23 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JanTM
eh?... pipe up?

Sorry JanTM...Wrong response to the wrong person. |peace|

cd34 2005-04-23 11:45 AM

Our extra .5% sales tax goes towards education. I remember the elections, anyone that wanted to raise taxes was voted out of office, yet, the Sales Tax addendum won almost 70% of the vote. Seemed rather hypocritical to me. One of the Condos I was looking at is on the PeopleMover line right next to the Miami Herald building. That line is not very well laid out at all.

Cleo 2005-04-23 12:48 PM

I lived in Miami when they were building it. I really thought I remembered them voting in the 5% for it. Could be wrong, it was the drug seventies and things are a bit hazy from back then. I do remember for sure that we all were wonder why the fuck they built it the way the did. It's useless to most of Dade County.

I do know that when I lived in San Francisco that we paid an extra 5% for B.A.R.T. (Bay Area Rapid Transportation). San Francisco has excellent pubic transportation.

cd34 2005-04-23 02:31 PM

They might have in Miami - Palm Beach County just voted in the .5% sales tax addendum to fund schools. At the same time people asked for $.08/gallon of the gas tax to be repealed, reduction in the millage rates for Property tax and confirming the 3% FCT cap.

So, we cause vote trauma, vote against every tax because things are too costly, then vote in a sales tax increase to help schools, and our schools are now floating short-term bonds because they aren't getting as much from the sales tax as they had budgeted.

Why didn't I get a degree in business. :)

JanTM 2005-04-23 03:07 PM

Pornrex... no worries :)

Cleo 2005-04-26 05:56 PM

Article in today's paper about how expensive houses have gotten here and how bad the shortage is and why.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...home-headlines
Quote:

"We just don't have enough inventory," said Ron Shuffield, president of Esslinger-Wooten-Maxwell Realtors, which has 13 offices in Miami-Dade and Broward counties. "It's the lowest inventory I've seen in my 30 years here."

Sellers are increasingly reluctant to put their homes on the market when they consider how much more they'll pay in taxes on a new home, said Richard Teboul, a Realtor with the Keyes Co. in Fort Lauderdale.

"They know they'll have no problem selling it and they'll get full price or more," Teboul said. "But then where do they go when the taxes make it very expensive to move?"

In Florida, property taxes can rise only 3 percent a year on homesteaded property. But once you move, your taxes will be based on the market price of the new home. That could double or triple a tax bill.

While sellers may be wary of listing their homes, buyers are making multiple offers and often end up losing a string of properties. Buyers are resorting to making offers at or above an owner's list price. And they begin to get desperate because they know a similar property will only cost more next month, said Ann DeFries, president of the Realtor Association of Greater Fort Lauderdale.

Robbo 2005-05-09 01:07 AM

I moved back to NY from Los Angeles. I guess I just can`t get enough of taxes! But I`m in |greenguy| country so it`s way more layed back than NYC and the LA thing. At least we could afford a house here!

sue-fl 2005-05-11 01:17 PM

I'm on the west coast and love it here! I live in town but the beach is less than a 10 minute drive. Summer time is tough here though it's very hot and humid, I just live in the air all the time. St.Petersburg is considered an old folks city but I disagree. The beach bars rock, tons of great bands. I'm the oldest on my block lots of young families have moved in. It's a great life for me here wouldn't want to be anywhere else. I grew up in Maine so know what cold is and don't miss it one bit! |bananna|


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