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Verbal 2005-10-12 02:43 PM

2257 for all films with love scenes?
 
Pretty fucked up... they now want every Hollywood movie with a simulated sex scene to be 2257 compliant.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051012/film_nm/porn_dc

|banghead|

tickler 2005-10-12 03:00 PM

Another blurb from British paper.
http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/stor...590432,00.html

The "actual" sex exclusion was originally to keep Hollywood exempt.

Tommy 2005-10-12 03:13 PM

I was hoping hollywood would sit up and take notice

this will be a good thing for the adult industry

and when regular people see that the goverment jesus freaks are trying to censor even pg rated movies
it will only help our argument that the goverment has and is going to far

Verbal 2005-10-12 03:42 PM

I wonder if they'll need to get 2257 docs for the scene in Austin Powers where Mini-Me dry humps the missle.

Gotta protect the kids! |goodidea

SirMoby 2005-10-12 03:52 PM

This has passed one branch of our government weeks ago and still no one is jumping up and down. The FSC still looks like the only ones fighting this.

Tommy 2005-10-12 04:00 PM

no forgin preformers

the titanic would be classified as a porno film
so would swordfish and thousands of toher movies

hollywood might be willing to cut the nudity from new films but they cant do anything about the ones allready out there

SirMoby 2005-10-12 04:19 PM

Tommy, answer my email and congrats.

Tommy 2005-10-12 04:31 PM

I dont have any emails from you

koolkat 2005-10-12 06:16 PM

So... does this mean that every single video store is going to have to keep the 2257 compliancy documents, since they would then become distributors just like with the adult industry.

This is a perfect example of Big Brother in action! Why did the Pilgrims come to the new continent of America? To escape the religious prosecution of the government! Gee... look what we are headed back to!

Useless 2005-10-12 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koolkat
Why did the Pilgrims come to the new continent of America? To escape the religious prosecution of the government!

Yes, but they were being persecuted because they were puritanical nutjobs. The Europeans were glad to see them go.

I'm going to start keeping 2257 records for all of my sex scenes. I'll only need my ID and the receipt for a bottle of hand cream. ;)

Tommy 2005-10-12 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koolkat
So... does this mean that every single video store is going to have to keep the 2257 compliancy documents, since they would then become distributors just like with the adult industry.

the way I read it

yes, every little mom and pop video store and online retailer is gonna have to have a copy of Halle Berrys drivers license for her nude scene in swordfish

that could be 20 or maybe 30 thousand people in the usa will have to have a copy of her drivers license on file

koolkat 2005-10-12 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
Yes, but they were being persecuted because they were puritanical nutjobs. The Europeans were glad to see them go.

I'm going to start keeping 2257 records for all of my sex scenes. I'll only need my ID and the receipt for a bottle of hand cream. ;)

Yeah... but the other little details don't help my case! Work with me here UW!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy
the way I read it

yes, every little mom and pop video store and online retailer is gonna have to have a copy of Halle Berrys drivers license for her nude scene in swordfish

that could be 20 or maybe 30 thousand people in the usa will have to have a copy of her drivers license on file

How many employees does Blockbuster employ at their store. How many people would have access to these records? |shocking|

plateman 2005-10-12 09:35 PM

there fuckin crazy and if it passes - it will be one hell of a uprising - we all hope

SirMoby 2005-10-12 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy
I dont have any emails from you

Check now. Came from my personal account that uses my first name and not my handle

SirMoby 2005-10-12 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by plateman
there fuckin crazy and if it passes - it will be one hell of a uprising - we all hope

It is part of the "Child Protection Act". That's 3 words and far more then a typical voter cares to read. Instead they will watch Fox News and and be told that people are fighting against an act to protect children and never bother to read or understand what is really happening.

babymaker 2005-10-12 10:31 PM

this is great tho overall since hollywood will kick in their lawyers and fuck AG up his bitch ass :D wonder what they will do with the remake in the 90's of ****** hehehe :) that ought to raise some eyebrows


wow fuck i got censored lol...the board killed the L word i was reffering to the movie in the 90's if anyone is worried lol not promoting a site :)

Thumbler 2005-10-12 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy
the titanic would be classified as a porno film

That would be just absolutely ridiculous.

Mefo 2005-10-13 04:22 AM

lol most of the films have fake sex scenes in them especially the comedies

Mefo 2005-10-13 04:23 AM

btw I'm glad it's illegal over here in Europe to give out ID's to 3rd parties

lassiter 2005-10-13 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumbler
That would be just absolutely ridiculous.

Sure, but that never stopped 'em before.

plateman 2005-10-13 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirMoby
It is part of the "Child Protection Act". That's 3 words and far more then a typical voter cares to read. Instead they will watch Fox News and and be told that people are fighting against an act to protect children and never bother to read or understand what is really happening.

I know but just maybe hollywood and the critics of 2257 voice will get out and the average normal american will see what the GOV is doing here...

RedCherry 2005-10-13 11:53 AM

At the meeting I went to on Monday, Free Speech Coalition said this has helped the fight becuase Hollywood is very pissed over this whole law, and they have put a LOT of pressure to not have this go through as is.

On the other hand, FSC is also hoping Hollywood doesn't just get an exception for their movies, and we still have to comply.

More here on that meeting:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=24911

I suggest everyone joining FSC, they are fighting hard, they even have a lobbyist now in government. ACLU also is, and FSC even said they have had some Republicans who are starting to get appalled at the freedoms being taken away by the current administration are talking to them.

urb 2005-10-14 04:39 AM

The more I hear about 2257, the more I realise that the DoJ has absolutely no clue what they are doing.

They are abusing valuable funds on a wild goose chase; funds that should be spent on something that actually will benefit the American people.

Either the government doesn't really care about it's people, or they are just plain retarded.

Pathetic :(

Surfn 2005-10-14 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urb
The more I hear about 2257, the more I realise that the DoJ has absolutely no clue what they are doing.

They are abusing valuable funds on a wild goose chase; funds that should be spent on something that actually will benefit the American people.

Either the government doesn't really care about it's people, or they are just plain retarded.

Pathetic :(

All of the above. If they knew what that were doing we would call them AT&T, Microsoft, Exxon, GE etc.

Joneze 2005-10-14 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by urb
Either the government doesn't really care about it's people, or they are just plain retarded.

I think it's about 50/50.

It is going to take decades to undo all this crap.

spazlabz 2005-10-14 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy
I was hoping hollywood would sit up and take notice

this will be a good thing for the adult industry

and when regular people see that the goverment jesus freaks are trying to censor even pg rated movies
it will only help our argument that the goverment has and is going to far

I couldnt agree with you more. I think this is what is needed.

Jim

Candy 2005-10-14 01:06 PM

Ok, isn't 2257 a law as it is?

To change a law don't you need a new bill and doesn't it have to go thru the whole process of becoming a law again?

They are trying to make a new law, so they have to start over, they can't just keep changing an established law to suite their whims.

I didn't like that first article. It said 2257 is aimed at stopping child porn. That is so far from the f'ing truth. The only person cracking down on child porn is Oprah. |thumb

Leave us alone already, I have a nice cottage industry going here between me myself and my pussy. It has nothing to do with minors. And if they start taxing porn on the net they better tax everything else. If they do, I'm gonna give pics of my pussy away for free and put a link to 1-800-FLOWERS under them. |angry|

"The California law goes from soup to nuts," one industry executive said. "There's not one shadow of any evidence that the movie industry doesn't protect children."

AND THERE IS NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE THAT THE PORN INDUSTRY DOESN'T PROTECT THEM EITHER-AHOLES!!!

Thanks and have a nice day |blowkiss|

tickler 2005-10-14 07:16 PM

That quote about "..soup to nuts.." was in a Hollywood Reporter article also.

That article mentioned a rather nasty aspect for the Hollywood folks.
"The 2257 provision also has ramifications beyond the artistic as a federal tax provision designed to stem runaway production is unavailable to anyone required to register a 2257. Many state incentives designed to entice filmmakers to shoot on location also contain similar language. "

So maybe they will have to change the tax laws to allow 2257, which means porn producers could become eligible for tax credits.

magicmike 2005-10-19 01:15 PM

Well at least this is bringing more attention to the whole case and getting more onside against the insane amount of regulations.

SpeedyG 2005-10-19 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy
I was hoping hollywood would sit up and take notice

this will be a good thing for the adult industry

and when regular people see that the goverment jesus freaks are trying to censor even pg rated movies
it will only help our argument that the goverment has and is going to far

Exactly |thumb

tickler 2005-10-19 03:51 PM

Suprising how fast they can run backwards. |devil|

Child-porn bill might get rewrite
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...ory?id=1228246

SirMoby 2005-10-19 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tickler
Suprising how fast they can run backwards. |devil|

Child-porn bill might get rewrite
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...ory?id=1228246

Thanks for that article. I found this statement pretty scary "legitimate entertainment industry". At least he's willing to alter his bill showing that he's an idiot.

Linkster 2005-10-19 09:26 PM

Candy - unfortunately there are what are called implementing laws in this country - they can be changed by the attorney general in this case to implement a bill that was passed as law years ago as he sees fit. The congress usually just passes a law that is very general and then the departments (DOJ, NRC etc) do all of the implementation/interpretation code in the Federal Register to accomplish enforcing that law.


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