Some domains are banned. Why?
 

Hello,

some domains on my host are banned with the reason "fetishspace is 3fnnet host". Why?
I'm not a "3fnnet".

When I see fetishspace in someone's whois, I assume that their domains are sponsor hosted. Would that be correct? If not, who is the host?

I know that sponsor hosts are banned but I don't understand why. Some sponsor hosts are even faster and more realiable than a pay hosts.

I doubt that you have the capacity to understand why Yahook. |banghead|

1. It is not correct...
2. I'm the owner of both AFRevenue program and fetishspace hosting.
3. No one domain with "fetishspace" in the whois is sponsor hosted.
Just a sample: http://nylon-pictures.com/
We can see 16 paysites promoted on this domain... but nothing deals with AFRevenue program.
Is it OK for sponsor hosted domains?

Yahook
The reason sponsor hosted domains are banned by many people is the webmaster has NO control over the domain and hosting so the sponsor could pull the hosting at any time. Therefore banning hosting NOT owned by the poster is a good way to reduce 404 and redirects in the future.

We are speaking here not about banned sponsor hosts, Yahook.

I try to find here a reason why my servers, where I sell virtual hosting plans, are banned with the reason "fetishspace is 3fnnet host".

The whois tells it all :)

What exactly it tells?

Registration and WHOIS Service Provided By: directNIC.com

Registrant:
Nova Publishing ltd.
16 G Malekides street app 23
Paphos, CY 49130
CY
7416646


Domain Name: FETISHSPACE.NET

Administrative Contact:
Patlias, Georgia
16 G Malekides street app 23
Paphos, CY 49130
CY
7416646

Where is above written that fetishspace is a sponsor host?

Who said it was a sponsor host LOL its
same ip
Domain name: pornofamily.net

Patrick Steepman (7ND8X)
16 G Malekides street app 23
East End, CY 49130
Cyprus


Record last updated on 2005-03-31 00:00:00
Record created on 2002-04-05 00:00:00
Record expires on 2006-04-05 00:00:00

Domain servers in listed order:
ns2.3fn.net
ns1.3fn.net

Is your surename Holms?

Yes, I have one server rented from 3fn.
And all MY domains are hosted on it.
pornofamily.net is my domain.
fetishspace.net is also my domain.
You can see "16 G Malekides street app 23" in both whois info ...
I'm an owner of both companies.. but they have different administrators.. and all my domains are registered on this address.

MY domains are hosted on the one server
(rented from 3fn)...
Another domains (not mine, but my clients, are hosted on another servers)... They even are allocated on the different routers, as you could see in the traceroute...

MMM case closed you are hosted at 3fn.net

I'm not hosted at 3fn.net...
I rent a racspace and upstrim entry point from 3fn.net, can you see the difference?

Ok. You ban pornofamily.net, cause it is hosted on 3fn.net...
you don't like 3fn.net ...

But another domains?

You're correct. But I was talking about the case when webmaster owns the domains. He can change NS servers any time he likes and move all his sites to another host.

Any hosting that you do not pay for is free - it's a very simple concept.

As far as 3fn, they've been banned by a lot of Link Lists for a long time. There's been a lot of whois hiding & secret nameservers & whatnot, but in the end, we usually find the sites that use their hosting.

Some content is also free.

All webmasters which keep their domains on the fetishspace hosting are pay for it.

Can you see the difference between "3fn hosting" and "3fn equipment"?

You can ban 3fn hosting, of course, cause you don't like a 3fn policy.

But why you ban another company, with another policy, which use 3fn equipment?

I'm AFRevenue ... I'm not 3fn...

I rule these servers... 3fn doesn't rule it.

If some time ago one "Jaguar" run over your lovely frog... Should you kill all people which drive "Jaguars"?

What the fuck does hosting have to do with content?

And there's not much anyone can say to me to get me to remove the ban on 3fn.

People don't pay for some content and it's free - it's the same concept. Nothing personal.

I'm really upset than there are no garantee for well made free site to be listed in all linklists :(

I do not list free hosted sites this is clearly stated in my rules. So any moron stupid enought to submit a free hosted site to me should be disappointed in themselves for not reading the rules & blaming me.

You are starting to get realt fucking annoying. Go run your link list your way & stay the fuck out of my business.

Why Oh Why |banghead| |banghead| |banghead| |banghead| |banghead| |banghead|

I provide listing services to webmasters who, like myself, have invested to be in a business. I do not extend the same professional courtesy to people using free or bartered hosting. I consider that their sites, content, and pages can disappear at random, they have no control over their business, and therefore I don't need to take their listings.

I also don't take porn sites illegally hosted on geocities and personal webspace provided by your local ISP (such as AOL). Does that make me a truly bad man?

As for 3FN, well, if you rent space in a bad neighborhood and just change the name on your door, you are still in a bad neighborhood.

Alex

I don't ask you to remove the ban on 3fn.
I just ask you to remove ban on domains hosted on my servers.
It's very simple to recognize it.
They have a fetishspace.net in whois.

You don't get the point. It isn't about what the DNS is (many hosts let you self-manage a dns, often using the name of one of your domains as the dns) but where you are hosted. You are still in a bad neighborhood.

Alex

1. I don't rent a space... I rent whole servers.

2. I rented these servers 2 years earlier than you considered than 3fn is "bad neighbour".

3. The name on my door is always mine

I am hosted on my own servers which located in NY. Do you ban all servers located in NY?

AFRevenue - anything associated with 3fn is is banned.

Can we help you with anything else?

Thank you.

Can you tell me where I can allocate my servers without a risk to be banned again when you consider to ban another whole hosting?

So where would I guy like me go to get a paid hosting account with you? This isn't much of a sales page: http://fetishspace.net/ When I see a static page like that, I'm forced to assume that it's sponsor hosting because that's pretty much what many sponsor hosts do on the root for their nameserver domains.

Guys, I don't try to touch your business, it was my own opinion.

And I have the same opinion about free hosted sites submitted by webmaster, I can only add them manually with my refcode.

Are we even talking about the same thing?

A "Free Hosted Site" is a site that's on Free Hosting that the webmaster does not pay for.

A "Hosted Free Site" is a free site that the affiliate program puts out fr Link List owners to list with their affiliate codes.

Two COMPLETELY different things.

I use "people to people" sales technology.
You need very good recomendations to get a paid hosting account with me.
And it could be a bit expensive... cause I use Dual Xeon 3.06 servers with 4GB RAM and fast SCSI hard drives, plugged to the 100 mb/s pipes, and don't load them more than on 50%...
My servers are faster than 88% of another hosts in the internet, according to Alexa.

Yes, I was talking about the Free Hosted Sites in my first message. But as I've said above - this is just my own opinion ;)

This is the most language challenged thread yet |banghead|

fetishspace has always been banned because of your incest sites - Ive always found it amazing that you have in your terms and conditions that people cant use the terms incest in their metas for sites promoting your sponsor program - yet you own at least 10 incest sites that I know of - add that to 3fn being another cheater haven - that has always made for a double ban

The reason is that "incest" terms violate Visa US cards processing regulations.

But all sites are fake "incest" sites... and it is legal even in USA... Mastercard, ACH and SMS-billings accept it... even Visa CAL and Visa NL accept it.

Fake "incest" porn is legal almost anywhere in the world...

Will you ban thehun and all associated with? He accepts animal porn... which is legal ONLY in Niederlands and Japan...

IMHO:
AFRevenue, every webmaster has their own conceptions what is bad and what is good. And lots of people here just use their own rules to judge somebody. They have more good position because this is their native language, this is not your board. I think it's impossible to proove something to them.

I think the part that amazes me most about posts like this is the fact that it seems TOO SIMPLE to understand. If I choose to ban your site because I don't like pink text, I CAN...it's MY site, and you don't have to like it, you don't have to abide by it, but you also DON'T have to submit there if you don't like my "pink rule". Pissing, moaning and whining...or asking me why I don't ban sites with blue text really ISN'T going to change things.

It's kind of |deadhorse

And I dont happen to agree that incest(fake), rape(fake),young teen(fake) or animal is acceptable - so I dont list them.
And yes the hun would be banned if he ever submitted it to me :) But I doubt seriously that he would submit a free site to any LL |dizzy|

fetish1 has it right - its my list, my traffic and my choice - not yours - if you want to list that stuff or be associated with it - thats your choice - I choose to ban anyone that uses certain hosts - I dont care if they own the host, rent from them, steal from them or have a free deal with them - they just arent going to get listed - final!
I am not sure why this topic keeps coming up as if you do a search of this board there are loads of threads since the board opened about which hosts are banned - and why. Its not going to change and no amount of posting dissenting opinions is going to sway a LL owner to change their rules - they have them for a reason