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Max 2005-12-09 12:13 PM

Blogger deletes blogs w/ sexual explicit content?
 
Is it true? Several guys said me that their blogger.com accounts were deleted without any warnings.
I'm not so sure if I want to start a new blog there. What you think?

Beachbum 2005-12-09 12:29 PM

I think you have to ask yourself why do you want to start a blog in the first place. For business or hobby. For me a blog is a marketing tool worth having but for business purposes I would never recommend free hosting. Isn't that what blogger is? I say if one wants to start a blog or any other kind of site for marketing adult products get your own host and park your blog or site on your own domain, this way YOU are in control over your content and not your free host. That's my .02 on it. |santa|

twthumb 2005-12-09 12:51 PM

Yup, it's right, but their is a nuance to be made.
As you said blogs with 'sexual explicit content' is a no no on blogger. But if you just like to tell adventures which you had with your latest girlfriend or blog about your erotic fantasies then you can just go with blogger.

If you want to post adult content on your blog (i mean pictures) then you might want to consider thumblogger:
http://www.thumblogger.com
Adult content is allowed there and it's over 1 year in business and used by a lot of happy adult webmasters. Since about a month it has the 'blogger' effect, which means search engine traffic within one day.
Do your searches on several boards to confirm my story.

And if you decide to go with your own hosting then you can still use thumblogger, for example to feed your main blog, great for outgoing and incoming links, PR en search engine traffic.

jds 2005-12-09 01:00 PM

I didn't get deleted but blacklisted which is not really better.

Anyway the wordpress structure is better for seo so get yourself a (sub)domain and install wordpress (2 minutes) it's really worth it ;)

Max 2005-12-09 02:05 PM

When I started my fist blog I had not idea what blogs were and why blogger.com was not the best choice. Now I have blogs on my own domains and hosts but my fist blog is still on blogger.com and brings me $500 a month. I'm just afraid to lose it one day.
What would you recommend to do now?

nordberg25 2005-12-09 11:00 PM

yep, them fuckers at blogger deleted my sites without warning, created a blog on thumblogger (http://soloteens.thumblogger.com) about 3 weeks ago, already 500 hits a day and 2nd out of 2 million in google for kw "solo teens"

Very happy with thumblogger - was a quick rebound F U C K blogger

Max 2005-12-10 06:26 AM

you are #1 in my browser for "solo teens" :)

jds 2005-12-10 12:19 PM

and #3 on mine

ronnie 2005-12-11 11:06 AM

The exact reason I dont like trading with blogs on blogger or other free non-adult blog hosting services. As mentioned, I sure have never understood why so many people use those services. Blog software can be gotten for free, hosting does'nt cost that much. Why would any one want to spend all that time and energy on blogs, that you have no control over if they dont like it, where your blog could all be gone tomorrow, sure dont make sense to me.

ronnie

gobgook2 2005-12-11 11:35 AM

Yeah, IF it's a fear of installing a script that keeps webmasters who might be serious about using blogs as a marketing tool (agree with everything b3achbum and others have said), then DON'T BE! Again, Wordpress for one is nearly retard-proof to install, and it honestly does only take 2 minutes to do, even for the script installing newbies. ;)

Hosting it yourself (along with frequent posts) sends the message to other webmasters (potential trades) that you're serious, and won't have to worry about the freehost's rules and deletion. I mean, even if you DO find a blog hosting service that allows explicit posts, what's to say in 6 months they don't pull a PayPal and change their minds... *AXE CHOP*! .02 ;)

jds 2005-12-11 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnie
The exact reason I dont like trading with blogs on blogger or other free non-adult blog hosting services. As mentioned, I sure have never understood why so many people use those services. Blog software can be gotten for free, hosting does'nt cost that much. Why would any one want to spend all that time and energy on blogs, that you have no control over if they dont like it, where your blog could all be gone tomorrow, sure dont make sense to me.

ronnie

Most of them do that because being a subdomain of a very powerfull domain makes your SEO easier
Don't tell them but that only works on a limited number of subdomains ;)

gideon 2005-12-11 06:09 PM

Don't know if you guys know but RevshareHosting has blog hosting now as well.

-- Gideon

ronnie 2005-12-12 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobgook2
Yeah, IF it's a fear of installing a script that keeps webmasters who might be serious about using blogs as a marketing tool (agree with everything b3achbum and others have said), then DON'T BE! Again, Wordpress for one is nearly retard-proof to install, and it honestly does only take 2 minutes to do, even for the script installing newbies. ;)

Hosting it yourself (along with frequent posts) sends the message to other webmasters (potential trades) that you're serious, and won't have to worry about the freehost's rules and deletion. I mean, even if you DO find a blog hosting service that allows explicit posts, what's to say in 6 months they don't pull a PayPal and change their minds... *AXE CHOP*! .02 ;)

I still alot of sites doing trades with blogs on free blog hosting services though, so must not be to important. Or as said, maybe it's the SEO thing.

ronnie

tigermom 2005-12-12 11:15 PM

I would never put a money generating site on free hosting. I do wonder though, can't you somehow download your db from blogger? If you're not getting massive traffic to your site, it might be worth it to move the content, close the blogger site and wait for everything to be re-indexed.

ronnie 2005-12-13 07:20 AM

This might be a real dumb question, but is bloggspot also blogger, or are they different? Bloggspot is the one I see used the most. I never really checked into the free blogging services, wanted to have my blogs on my own hosting.

ronnie

gobgook2 2005-12-13 10:20 AM

Blogspot, Blogger, Blogdrive, there's loads of em out there ronnie... all different sites, but the same principle :)

Tigermom - I looked into that for a webgirl friend running on BlogDrive, trying to get her to move to wordpress installed on her site domain... BlogDrive lets you make backups of the whole db, but it's in some whack proprietary format. In theory if you could get the data to export into a workable format, it *should* be possible to do a little modifications to that format for import into something else (matching up the database tablenames, fields, etc.) but it'd be a pain in the ass. If it's a blog that hasn't been up for too awful long, copy/paste each entry might be faster. :D

Maybe some WP / PHP guru should write a converter plugin to be able to import and convert some of the more popular freebloghost backup formats. I'm not keen enough for that project though! |loony|

jds 2005-12-13 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobgook2
Blogspot, Blogger, Blogdrive, there's loads of em out there ronnie... all different sites, but the same principle :)

Tigermom - I looked into that for a webgirl friend running on BlogDrive, trying to get her to move to wordpress installed on her site domain... BlogDrive lets you make backups of the whole db, but it's in some whack proprietary format. In theory if you could get the data to export into a workable format, it *should* be possible to do a little modifications to that format for import into something else (matching up the database tablenames, fields, etc.) but it'd be a pain in the ass. If it's a blog that hasn't been up for too awful long, copy/paste each entry might be faster. :D

Maybe some WP / PHP guru should write a converter plugin to be able to import and convert some of the more popular freebloghost backup formats. I'm not keen enough for that project though! |loony|

Every blog has its rss or atom feeds. So with a simple php parser, it only takes minutes to get the data loaded on you server.

gobgook2 2005-12-13 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jds
Every blog has its rss or atom feeds. So with a simple php parser, it only takes minutes to get the data loaded on you server.

Hell even I might be able to accomplish something like that! haha (and i'm using wordpress only as an example because it's what I use and recommend). I'm thinking some simple framework that pulls the RSS entries into an array, and then INSERT into wordpress db where $arrayitemX = matching_wordpress_field ?? (as a most basic concept)

I'm no php/mysql/rss "guru" by any standard; know enough to be dangerous... I'll doublecheck the codex again too, but i'm positive I didn't see any plugins like this out there yet. Plenty of aggregators, yeah (but simply display an external feed, not actually import it into WP).

Of course I may be way off base ;) lol I'll fucker around with it sometime, as if I don't have enough on my plate already! (and profound apologies for straying way the hell off topic...)

DPD 2005-12-13 02:41 PM

I was thinking of using Blogger on my own domain
 
I was thinking of using Blogger on my own domain but after I'd read this thread I decided to use WP for my newest blog

jds 2005-12-13 02:44 PM

You didn't search that much did you ?

http://www.skeltoac.com/2005/03/12/f...o-wordpress-2/
http://justinsomnia.org/2005/03/movi...-to-wordpress/

Google is your friend

Beachbum 2005-12-13 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobgook2
I'm no php/mysql/rss "guru" by any standard; know enough to be dangerous...

Don't lie :D I know better than that. |thumb

Trixie 2005-12-14 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnie
This might be a real dumb question, but is bloggspot also blogger, or are they different? Bloggspot is the one I see used the most. I never really checked into the free blogging services, wanted to have my blogs on my own hosting.

ronnie

Blogspot is free hosting for blogger users. You can use blogger and host it yourself instead of having a "blogspot".

gobgook2 2005-12-14 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jds

hehe nope! you caught me ;) I just looked in the wp codex... i'll google for blogdrive instructions later :)

RawAlex 2005-12-14 03:17 PM

I just can't picture making anything that can be taken away just like that as an important part of your business.

Alex

twn 2005-12-14 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnie
The exact reason I dont like trading with blogs on blogger or other free non-adult blog hosting services. As mentioned, I sure have never understood why so many people use those services.

Many people use it for SEO/PR purposes and/or for feeding another blog.
You can get a number 1-3 position with a thumblogger within 1 or 2 days, of course not on a really popular keyword (that takes a bit longer).
Now imagine doing this 5 times and link all 5 blogs to your main blog. The result is quality SE traffic and nice incoming links (for PR).

Note: i'm twthumb, but couldn't login after the board upgrade at greenguysboard.com, so i have to start over again. |huh

walrus 2005-12-15 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twn
Many people use it for SEO/PR purposes and/or for feeding another blog.
You can get a number 1-3 position with a thumblogger within 1 or 2 days, of course not on a really popular keyword (that takes a bit longer).
Now imagine doing this 5 times and link all 5 blogs to your main blog. The result is quality SE traffic and nice incoming links (for PR).

Note: i'm twthumb, but couldn't login after the board upgrade at greenguysboard.com, so i have to start over again. |huh

I know I'm a little green and an idiot to boot but that logic seems a bit fuzzy to me. Perhaps if your starting your blog on a new domain...I see some logic behind what your saying but how is there an advantage over starting your blog on an established domain. Either way, your getting indexed by the "bots" on a regular basis.

Even starting on a brand new domain, while "waiting" for the bots to pick you up, your working your trades and working your keywords so that when they do finally show, your hitting your odd keywords but also it's picking up the more common ones as well. So over the long run (say 6 months) are you really ahead of the curve? Especially when on your own domain, your not leaking traffic daily to pay for the subdomain your blog is on.

twn 2005-12-15 07:25 AM

Getting a new fresh domain on the first page can be a pain in the ass. You only have to do one thing wrong and your domain lands on page 100 or in the google sandbox (google confirmed the existence of this). That said, it is possible to get a fresh domain on the first page quickly but that requires major knowledge of SEO and knowledge of the many google quirks. The difference over the long run, i think not much. But maybe it's me, but i don't want to wait months to get quality traffic.

That's only the domain story, let's look at the linking story. Putting x domains on a single server and interlinking between them isn't a wise thing :) But interlinking between x domains on your server and x blogs on thumblogger can give PR a big boost. And of course traffic, 1 blog in the search results give less traffic then 10 blogs in the search results, but that's logical.

And there are even more tricks to be a better blogger. |loony|

DangerDave 2005-12-15 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twn
You can get a number 1-3 position with a thumblogger within 1 or 2 days

That may be possible, but it is never going to stick, unless its some obscure keyword. I would love to see some proof of this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by twn
or in the google sandbox (google confirmed the existence of this).

Not denying it, or letting people believe it is not confirmation

Most of those with solid SE knowledge(at least on this board) would argue that the "sandbox" only exists in the minds of search engine board posters.


Additionally if thumblogger is used for SE spam and trademark infringement like this - http://worldsex.thumblogger.com/ I wouldn't be touching it with a 10 foot pole.

and twn if you are the owner of thumblogger.. you could do yourself a favour in deleting this one... - http://cutiespicsst.thumblogger.com/
and this one - http://pornoisflash.thumblogger.com/
and this one - http://pornvirginsst.thumblogger.com/
and this one - http://nakedteenagest.thumblogger.com/
and this one - http://teenspornost.thumblogger.com/


Like I said.. I wouldn't touch it :(

DD

twn 2005-12-15 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerDave
That may be possible, but it is never going to stick, unless its some obscure keyword. I would love to see some proof of this?

Visit the netpond forum and ask your question, many bloggers over there.

But here's one:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...na&btnG=Search
or
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...na&btnG=Search
http://nubile-girl-dina.thumblogger.com/

This one was spidered within 1 day and got position 4 first, it moved to position one within a 2 days. :D

Quote:


Not denying it, or letting people believe it is not confirmation

Most of those with solid SE knowledge(at least on this board) would argue that the "sandbox" only exists in the minds of search engine board posters.
Like I said.. I wouldn't touch it :(
Sandbox is confirmed i readed a article a couple months ago, a google employee was talking about the sandbox.

You are not using thumblogger because of other blogs?
Then i suspect you also aren't using blogger nor any other free hosted blogging service?

Note: i'm the support, promoter and programmer at thumblogger, but i gave my partner a bump to check out the mentioned blogs. Likely the quality team will take a look at it.
Note2: a free hosting service can never prevent all abuse (i should try though), the mentioned blogs are only a very small part of all pages. Currently 191.000 pages from thumblogger are on google. |loony|

DangerDave 2005-12-18 04:37 PM

Yeah right - Netpond is where I get all my good information!!


So your "friend" doesnt seem to care much...

http://worldsex.thumblogger.com/
http://cutiespicsst.thumblogger.com/
http://pornoisflash.thumblogger.com/
http://pornvirginsst.thumblogger.com/
http://nakedteenagest.thumblogger.com/
http://teenspornost.thumblogger.com/

are all still up and infringing peoples copyrighted works and trademarks..

Shall we send the DMCA's to you or your pal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by twn
Currently 191.000 pages from thumblogger are on google

.....and how many of those are for incest/cp/kp keywords.. I would say from having a quick look... at least 5000 of them

Once again this only serves as a warning to those who may use Thumblogger - do so at your own risk.

DD

DangerDave 2005-12-18 04:49 PM

Oh and...
Quote:

Originally Posted by twn
Note: i'm the support, promoter and programmer at thumblogger, but i gave my partner a bump to check out the mentioned blogs.

Hmm but your alter ego - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/member.php?u=4069 - tried to sell thumblogger at least once? - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...80&postcount=1

.. hmm same IP, similar name... hmmmm
.. did you forget your login details for your other personality?

DD

DangerDave 2005-12-18 04:57 PM

No...... wait............. theres more...

Did you forget the login for this personality as well? - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/member.php?u=4671

This one actually claims to be the webmaster(?owner) of thumblogger......

Now who are we to believe... hmmmmmmmmmm

DD

Useless 2005-12-18 05:25 PM

There is the bag.
There is the cat.

The cat is no longer in the bag. ;)

twn 2005-12-18 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerDave
Oh and...
Hmm but your alter ego - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/member.php?u=4069 - tried to sell thumblogger at least once? -

I did sell it and now i'm a partner doing promotion & programming & support. Look around boards and you will see this story confirmed. Nothing strange here.

Quote:

No...... wait............. theres more...

Did you forget the login for this personality as well? - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/member.php?u=4671

This one actually claims to be the webmaster(?owner) of thumblogger......
Please look at the third post of this topic, this is me: twthumb.

Let's sum up:
1. twan, did partner up with a investor.
2. created a new account: twthumb, this way no one would be confused.
3. twthumb account password couldn't be retrieved after greenguyandjim board upgrade.
4. so i created a new account: twn.

As you can see they are al related to "twan", the "tw" from twthumb (thumb = thumblogger), and twn (is twan but without a "a").

There isn't really something wrong, or am i missing something?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerDave
Yeah right - Netpond is where I get all my good information!!


So your "friend" doesnt seem to care much...

As a with a good service we don't delete blogs within 1 minute, at least 5 people will take a look at the blogs (the quality team i was talking about). This way we ensure that the right decision is made.
Quote:

Once again this only serves as a warning to those who may use Thumblogger - do so at your own risk.
DD
Did you include blogger in your search? I bet you will find many 'not good' blogs.
Do you also warn people when they use blogger or are going to use blogger?

DangerDave 2005-12-18 06:06 PM

.. and you all live in the same house
.. and you all have the same internet connection
.. and you all use the same IPs

Hmmm this is starting to sound familiar?
Do submit free sites?
Is you name Alex?


DD

MadMax 2005-12-18 06:12 PM

I'll add that it's not that tough to get some INITIAL hot placement in google for a brand new site. It might even last a few days....

Edited to add:
You may or may not have noticed that DangerDave generally doesn't even start in on someone unless he's already bulletproof. I like to sit back and watch people bouncing off of him :D

Now THIS is some worthy drama :D

twn 2005-12-18 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerDave
.. and you all live in the same house
.. and you all have the same internet connection
.. and you all use the same IPs

Of course, twan, twthumb and twn are the same person. Why i did that:
Quote:

1. twan, did partner up with a investor.
2. created a new account: twthumb, this way no one would be confused.
3. twthumb account password couldn't be retrieved after greenguyandjim board upgrade.
4. so i created a new account: twn.
Again there isn't anything wrong with that, or is it?

Quote:

Hmmm this is starting to sound familiar?
Do submit free sites?
Is you name Alex?
I submitted 2 sites, both located on handpickedgalleries.com . One was accepted by greenguy and another biggy, but that was 3 or 4 months ago. I was testing for a new project. Both freesites are still up and running, let's see:
http://handpickedgalleries.com/claudiajob/
http://handpickedgalleries.com/firstdoublefuck/

My name isn't alex, i'm twan (just like my nickname). |loony|
I think you are confusing me with someone else, cause i never had trouble with anyone in adult business. So i'm not sure what you are trying to do?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax
Edited to add:
You may or may not have noticed that DangerDave generally doesn't even start in on someone unless he's already bulletproof. I like to sit back and watch people bouncing off of him :D

Now THIS is some worthy drama :D

This time he is wrong, he might be right about some blogs on thumblogger that aren't 'good blog' but the quality team needs time to make a good decision.
But he is definately wrong about me, like i said i didn't do anything wrong or cheaty or something like that.
I can imagine there is some confusing about the acounts over here, but i think i explained why i did that.

If anyone wants to say what i did wrong, please enlighten me.

And DangerDave if you want to call me to talk with me in person please send a email to twan@thumblogger.com and i will give you my phone number. I would love to hear what you have to say and explain the confusing you might have. I live in the netherlands, CET over here.

Useless 2005-12-18 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twn
My name isn't alex, i'm twan (just like my nickname).

Then who is Marie Timmermans?
Quote:

Originally Posted by twn
1. twan, did partner up with a investor.
2. created a new account: twthumb, this way no one would be confused.

Huh? How does this eliminate confusion?

Seems very fishy.

twn 2005-12-18 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
Then who is Marie Timmermans?

My business partner (not the investor wants to keep on the background). Sponsors also always ask me this question everytime i signup.
Quote:

Huh? How does this eliminate confusion?

Seems very fishy.
Imagine you offer a site, a investor mails you, gives you a deal. Now you post again with the "twan" account, people will start to think "did he sold it? is it the same twan?". Creating a new account "twthumb" ( tw(an)thumb(logger) ) makes it for me more easier, but if one (dangerdave) starts to search for strange things then he might conclude that this is a strange thing, because he didn't knew the full story.

If you want to check out my posting history:
http://www.boardtracker.com/cgi-bin/...22&member=1297
You will that everything i said is confirmed.

Useless 2005-12-18 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twn
Imagine you offer a site, a investor mails you, gives you a deal. Now you post again with the "twan" account, people will start to think "did he sold it? is it the same twan?". Creating a new account "twthumb" ( tw(an)thumb(logger) ) makes it for me more easier, but if one (dangerdave) starts to search for strange things then he might conclude that this is a strange thing, because he didn't knew the full story.

This makes no sense. YOU created the confusion by having mulitple identities. If I change business practices tomorrow, I wouldn't change my board name to Useful Non-combatant. People know me, my sites, my personality, my plethora of personal dysfunctions, etc. If I was to sell something or start something new, I'd announce it. What you did IS strange. That's why DD called you out. It's not him being nuts. You do have multiple board identities. I'm not calling it criminal, just strange and confusing.

Here's my take, not on you and your Dissociative Identity Disorder, but on sites such as yours. People who use 'free hosted' services, such as Blogger, are foolish. Always host your own shit. There are a ton of free and friendly scripts out there with detailed installation instructions. Do it yourself. Host it yourself. Control it yourself. Be taken seriously.


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