Do you think our adult sites have any political infulance
 

I was thinking about this COPA thing
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=28112


adult sites have been very quiet for years

We have a lot of people visiting our sites
(millions every day)

together we could have more political infulance then cnn or fox news

maybe its time we started letting our surfers know whats going on
how the religious right lead by bush is trying everything they can to outlaw porn

how many of you would run a 4 or 5 lines of text on your bigger sites and hubs

that might be linked to a artice with some facts on some page

Here's 1

Whats funny is that the more they push to outlaw or block it the better porn will pay, it's just taking the money out of US webmaster's pockets and moving it oversea's Casinos and Poker do a lot of business with US customers how is that possible when online gambling is illegal in the states? Well get ready to move your business overseas!

I would.

We could probably even take it further than that, but it would be a good start. Considering how much money is in porn we almost have no unified group just for the porn industry. When you notice that industries far smaller than the adult industry has lobbyists, etc to sway policy, it's almost amusing that we have no real unified group for the industry.

To start though, yeah, I'd put a link. :D

Here's another!

BANNED!
Reason: Roman Maroni


|couch| :D

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I only have little sites but I would....or perhaps take it a step further and setup a petition that gets emailed to the various congressmen by district after xxx signatures.

I am in. Tommy, you are going to let us know what you want us to link to?

well I was thinking I wanna come up with a few lines of text that is linked to a page decriping bushs war on porn and that tells our side of it


maybe everyone might wanna just link to a copy of the page on their own server

Count me in.

Count me in. It's time for a house cleaning on Capitol Hill. :)

Yep, count me in too |thumb

I'll even volunteer to donate any one or all 3 of the following domains to the cause;

save-porn.com
save-porno.com
savepornography.com

Given my current hosting hell...and projects I need to get done, I don't have time to develop the domains. But, I'd gladly give them to folks I know from the board that will use them in our cause. Would also alleviate any dup page issues and with good linkage...might really get some page views |thumb

You can count us in, we may be in Australia but your moronic president does effect us. If you get rid of GW maybe we can pry the lips of our ass kissing prime minister off his ass and back somewhere useful.

We have been very open with our opinions to our members inside our member’s area and in our Blogs, when the 2257 scare was happening I thanked everyone who voted for Bush and pointed out what was happening, “why” and what we had to do and what we faced if we was found to be in violating with links etc.

We both will be address this new “google porn records” thing in our blogs and inside our members area just as we always do, but we have been painting all day so we haven’t had time to write our thoughts as yet.

Now this is working together. |thumb I would be happy to put one on my server for folks to link to. Tommy could do the page and I could hang it out. Tommy, if I can help in anyway to get this started let me know

I'd also like to be in on this. My link lists and hubs are on the small side but I'm sure every little bit would help. Great idea Tommy! |thumb

I just received my order of 20 of these..

I did not vote 4 bush

they were only 3.00 each and well worth the investment. I'm sending them to my cam girls to wear in their shows.

I'm in on all my sites for a link.. |thumb

They are going to wear bumper stickers on their ass?

I don't know how much influence I have had.

My blog is not another TPG blog, it is true blog in that I let out my views on politics along with the sex and my everyday mundane happenings.

I do have the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, ACLU, AmericaBlog and several other sites linked to it to try and educate folks and let them know where I stand in the thick of things.

I even have a category for my political vents. :D

So you end up setting up a page representing the porn community on this, I would be delighted to add it and feature some of the articles in some of my posts. |thumb

You get pick of the litter Chop |thumb

Shoot me a pm and we'll arrange to move the domain to you :)

I love it Doc...those are awesome!

I like save-porn.com but lets see what Tommy has planned. I just want to help if possible.

While I too am in Aussie land, Bushy is doing a great job of increasing our petrol and fuking with our $AUD. I'm more than happy to spread the "Bush is an asshat, here's why" message. :)

-N

While I like the idea, I don't know that many porn surfers give a damn about what's going on politically, and if they do, do they at the moment they are searching for porn pics or movies. I think they are wanting free porn and will skip right over the political talk or ads...

But again, it's a good idea, and goodluck on it.

and here I was wondering if I was making the right decision in taking that sort of tact on my newest blog http://www.8-teen.net/wp2/
read the first post and the comment that follows. the blog isnt even close to done, but my start is definately on topic here.............

I think I still have bushporn.com :)

Alex

Count me in. I'll put up links and also add a note to my submit completed page telling other webmasters where to go to get the info for adding a link to their sites.

By the way, my fellow americans and others, you do realize that GW has NOTHING to do with the way things are in America right now. Nor in what the US is doing in other parts of the war.

To sum it up in as few words as possible: if you have seen all the Star wars movies, then you know who JajaBings is, right? THATS GW. Likeable front man without a brain in his head. It wasnt even his idea to run for president. his father and his fathers cronnies came to him and gave him the old 'the party needs you' pitch. And GW said OK.

He does what he is told and has NO ability to comprehend the long term plans of the GOP, never mind the long term EFFECTS of those plans.

Now I mention this not to releave GW of his responsibilities but to remind all you that when GW leaves the office, its NOT going to be all better even with a Democratic party win.

Know who the enemy is. thats step one. And that is The religious right and their puppets the GOP. Just a western culture reflection of Mullahs and their followers.

Put links in your pages to FIRST AMENDMENT issue sites, activities of the right, the gop, US Watch groups focused on Judicial Misconduct ,etc and then place these right next to feeds on Human rights watch groups focusing on Islamic states, issues on US Veterans Rights, Womens rights groups abroad, next to Anti-abortionist groups here in the US. Post the price of Oil next to the Unemployment index. Post Haliburten (spelling?) stock quotes next to the latest Injured, Killed stats for US soldiers in Iraq..........

Juxta position these issues - even if they sit at the bottom of the page in 8 point font and only 14 words are the preview.

AT the very least, you give a GREAT arguement that the next visit from your local law nforcement agency was polically motivated and designed to shut down your site's flow of information:D

guestcam, the biggest difference at the end of the day is who is beholden to who. Republicans are beholden to and often run by the christian groups that are out there, from the extreme to the sublime. They are the reason we say "President W" as opposed to "president gore" or whatever. Over a 25 year period, these people have been in power for all but 8 of them, and have stacked the decks at all levels, with judges in many circuits, life long political hacks, and general hooks into all the corners of government.

The Meese Commission wasn't an accident.

To suggest that one party or the other would be "friendly" to porn is stupid, it isn't happening. But I know that Republicans are ACTIVELY trying to throttle and kill off legitimate and protected free speech. The democrats have taken stabs at things with COPA and COPAII, but in each case, they were trying to find ways to limit access to porn from children, not witch hunting our industry.

It is clear between 2257 rules, COPA challenges, and now fishing for porn search information that these people are actively looking for some little hole to drive a truck through and wipe us all off the face of the map.

fuckers.

W certainly is the smiley front man, and I think he often spends his time coming up with justifcations for what the wild and out of control members of his party and administration are trying to pull off.

Alex

This is a fantastic idea providing it's handled sensibly. "Bush is a dick" type slogans will be likely to be laughed off and ignored. Try not to give "Mr + Mrs Straight-Laced" any excuses to dismiss the issues.
As we know, polititions tend only to listen when there is mass public outcry/support on an issue, so the amount of support will be a very important factor. Get the numbers. The big logs will ignite the twigs but the twigs will burn with the same fire. (Or something like that)

To gain support from webmasters and really boost those support numbers I would think that keeping it simple, providing a small graphical button that's branded with some sort of acronym, which then links to the relevant page/site for more info etc would be the way to go.

Also, I would avoid directing the movement towards Mr Bush, and aim more for a general "Adult Industry Voice" type of thing.

Of course, you folks know much more than me, but more "small people" giving opinions means there's a greater chance of a solution.

This has been something that I have been discussing with people for a long time. Nothing really ever became of it.

But a central domain that would list a blurb about what the site is trying to accomplish. Also a news section about the war on porn. Also links to articles of what is going on.
A donation link to The FSC. (or even the ACLU)

There are lots of possibilities.

FightTheWarOnPorn.com is available. (as well as ftwop.com)

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Not sure if my sites have any political influence but I'm sure that I've upset some religious types.

These days that seems to be the same thing :(

I've heard similar ideas tossed around on other boards when the 2257 thing started getting ugly. Now, I'm all for the idea. 100 percent behind publicizing this madness. But, here is the thing...

IMO, the page that gets linked to has to be breif. Probably no more than a 2-5 minute read. I don't think any surfer is going to spend more time than that on anything when he has his choad in his hand. The page would have to be well written, in lay terms, by someone who knows their shit and isn't Roman Maroni. I don't know many webmasters who are that skilled. I certainly am not. It's easy for us to talk shop, but to mention 2257 and COPA to a surfer and expect them to be on the same page as us is counter-intuitive. This means to me that it's not going to be easy to set up a page. The page itself could have links to further reading, but the meat and potatoes would have to be confined to an easy to digest portion of text, IMO. Also, the point would have to be made that while today it's porn, tomorrow, it's the WORLD!!! (insert evil republican laugh here). I think that once people grasp that fact, they will be more easily motivated to action. Again, just my opinion.

Again, I am all for the idea, and also, have some domain names that may be of use. questiontheanswers.net and .org. I registered them with political intent in the first place and haven't gotten around to developing them.

We may want the site hosted off shore. We're facing at least three more years of censorship and my guess is the hosting company and the owner of the crentral domain will come under attack.

This is a perfect place to keep an ongoing blog as well as a message.

well after sleeping on it

I came up with this

1) if we start attacking political figures they aren't gonna change their ways they will just try to get rid of us faster

IF we made any impact it would be faster and easy er to just get rid of us

2) taking a lesson from the republican party
we need to attack the bad myths about us. we need to tell our side and prove its not true, while staying neutral in the political environment

which isn't hard to do

like the myth that we use our sites to target children
that all of our sites are filled with spy ware and viruses
that passing laws in the us will make any difference in the amount of porn
that we cause or promote the use of child porn

I think that this is a election year if we are gonna put out anything bad about political candidates we should wait till November and maybe even then we shouldn't

also taking a political stand could cost of customers

what do you guys think

I agree, informative and postive. Avoid the political and negative.

It would be cool if we set up a fight-the-war-on-porn fund on the site, and somehow the website got alot of buzz in the media. Whatever fund the site generates then we can pour into fighting the uninformed / braindead policitians.

I have to say that focusing on the positive is best as well. Smear campaigns backfire. Keep in mind also. While we have a different perception of the situations involved in these wacked out legislations, the fact remains that a ton of our surfers are swinging from the Bush administration's nut sac. I don't think it would help our case to be very offensive on our sites while we are also wanting Bubba Redneck republican to buy a membership to our tranny sites after a healthy round of gay bashing with the boys at work. |crazy| They surf for porn too.

Couldn't agree more Tommy |thumb

An upbeat approach to who actually sells adult entertainment and our target market is an excellent idea. Try to finally get across the message that the vast majority of us are tax paying business people...plain and simple.

Providing links to FSC and ACLU are an excellent idea as well.

But, basically revealing adult webmasters as responsible business people who sell adult entertainment to adults is an excellent approach.

Oh, and of course there should be absolutely no advertising for adult sites directly on these pages.