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Bell 2006-02-07 10:47 PM

Pixel - Buy-a-Pixel SCRIPT
 
I'm looking for a "buy-a-pixel" type script ??

and the grey grid image often used for the background image...

~Bell

Toby 2006-02-07 10:50 PM

Check the Products and Services Forum, someone was looking to sell one last week

LowryBigwood 2006-02-07 10:58 PM

Heya Bell...

This is what you want.
milliondollarscript.com

Will set you back 50 bucks.

Bell 2006-02-07 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby
Check the Products and Services Forum, someone was looking to sell one last week

thanks...

I'll have a looksee over there...

~Bell

natalie 2006-02-07 11:07 PM

arghhhhhhhhhhh not another one!

LowryBigwood 2006-02-07 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natalie
arghhhhhhhhhhh not another one!

I don't quite get it. I know there is some webmasters here that think this is the stupiest idea ever including the owners of the board. :D

But, that's only because it's not understood IMHO.

The ones that do understand how it works, and the options available, have all told me it's an "interesting" idea. And, I'm not just talking about smaller / new webmasters, some well known webmasters on this board that have been around.

That being said, if you don't have a well known site with lots of traffic on it, it's going to be hard to get adult webmasters interested in your offer.

For one, the concept is still relatively new and hasn't been in adult very long, the best I can tell. When I put mine up a while back, I was unable to find any LL's or Tgps running it, but only two crappy adult related sites that take up the entire page for the pixels. Now, I agree, that will not work.

Two, some webmasters just don't see the benefit of having a pixel ad on your site. They don't look at it like an investment. A permenant link on a growing LL that has promise, would be a good investment to the smaller to medium sized webmasters that don't have a ton of traffic.

Three, the idea has been publicly trashed and thrashed by some respectable webmasters. Therefore, a lot of webmasters that saw that, probably also think it's a shitty idea.

If you still feel you wanna try it, go for it, don't let the negative folks change your mind. |thumb

Bell 2006-02-07 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood
Heya Bell...

This is what you want.
milliondollarscript.com

Will set you back 50 bucks.

hey lowry... (smoochies)
thanks for the info...
that looks like it does ALLOT...
they have an aff. prog. are you signed up so I can sign up through you if I decide to purchase it - - - or if I decide to also sign up as an aff. I can do it under you ??

do you know anyone personally that has installed the script ??

you can either respond here, or PM, of via eMail - (whichever you prefer)...

~Bell

Bell 2006-02-07 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood
I don't quite get it. I know there is some webmasters here that think this is the stupiest idea ever including the owners of the board. :D
|thumb



:)
it doesn't make a bit of difference to me if anyone likes the idea or the pixel sites... I don't base anything I do on stuff like that...

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion...

I appreciate the info Lowry...

~Bell

LowryBigwood 2006-02-08 12:17 AM

Bell, you can see the script running on my index, see sig below "advertise on my ll".

I'm not an affiliate with them, so if you want it, go for it. :)

Bell 2006-02-08 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood
Bell, you can see the script running on my index, see sig below "advertise on my ll".

I'm not an affiliate with them, so if you want it, go for it. :)


can I eMail you ??
~Bell
(? where... or ... you me at Bell at domainbell dot com )

LowryBigwood 2006-02-08 12:45 AM

You can email or PM me, up to you. LowryBigwood@gmail.com

LowryBigwood 2006-02-08 12:47 AM

To add one more thing to this thread. You see the size of the banner on there? That's about 45,000 dollars worth of adspace if it was to ever fill up, which time will tell. ;)

Greenguy 2006-02-08 10:20 AM

Here's my free version :D
http://www.link-o-rama.com/millionpixels.html

Useless 2006-02-08 10:48 AM

The thing that should worry you most is that only the people selling these stupid fucking pixel scripts defend the concept. Everyone else realizes that it's a dumb fucking idea that will NEVER work in adult.

LowryBigwood 2006-02-08 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenguy

Now, that is sexy! |jester|

LowryBigwood 2006-02-08 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
The thing that should worry you most is that only the people selling these stupid fucking pixel scripts defend the concept. Everyone else realizes that it's a dumb fucking idea that will NEVER work in adult.

I am the ONLY one defending the idea on this board. I do not know of any others. No offense UW, but do you have a 6th sense you haven't shared with us? Can you see into the future? If you can, can you let me know if I'm wasting my time in adult? |huh

Seriously, if a big LL owner, such as GG was to actually try this thing, instead of just poking fun at it, they'd probably sell out in no time, and then everyones tune might just change real quick.

Anyhow, I don't expect to change anyone's mind nor do I care. And, this is my last post on this issue. :D

Useless 2006-02-08 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood
No offense UW, but do you have a 6th sense you haven't shared with us? Can you see into the future? If you can, can you let me know if I'm wasting my time in adult? |huh

Yes and yes. But aren't we all? ;)

LowryBigwood 2006-02-08 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior
Yes and yes. But aren't we all? ;)

Good point. |verysad

cd34 2006-02-08 02:53 PM

What I have seen in the evolution of advertising in adult internet:

Prepay
Pay per click
Pay per sign
Pay per active/Revshare

This evolution has gone from prepay to pay for performance.

You are trying to turn the tide of adult advertising back to prepay. I'm not saying it won't work, but, it seems like a difficult direction to push the industry in. So, taken at face value, can you make that prepaid pixelbar more profitable than using that same space for advertising a sponsor?

Secondly, you are opening yourself up to two potential issues with Search Engines. First, you now have a page with 300+ exits which diminishes the value of your influence to any site pointed to from that page. Second, you are potentially putting yourself in a 'bad neighborhood' with the search engines.

DangerDave (and Bill has repeated this) has often said, sometimes it is more important who you don't link to than who you do link to. (pardon me if I paraphrased it a little incorrectly)

Now, had you been first on a high surfer traffic page or been able to get the media to trumpet your page to provide good value to your pixel buying clientele, you might have had something unique. However, you weren't first, you can't really get the media support behind it, so, you could be labelled a copycat. Look at why the original page was successful... first, unique, and great word-of-mouth.

I don't know whether it will work or not. It is my impression that it won't outperform sending a sponsor that traffic using the same page real estate that you have committed to the pixel ads.

But, I certainly wouldn't be adverse to giving it a try to see how it did. Never be afraid to try something new, but, make sure you aren't throwing more traffic at it than you can afford to lose. A cardinal rule in testing is generally -- never do anything that affects more than 50% of your traffic.

Good luck with it either way you choose to go.

LowryBigwood 2006-02-08 03:31 PM

First of all, I just want to thank you for your reply CD34.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd34
What I have seen in the evolution of advertising in adult internet:

Prepay
Pay per click
Pay per sign
Pay per active/Revshare

This evolution has gone from prepay to pay for performance.

You are trying to turn the tide of adult advertising back to prepay. I'm not saying it won't work, but, it seems like a difficult direction to push the industry in. So, taken at face value, can you make that prepaid pixelbar more profitable than using that same space for advertising a sponsor?

Much more profitable if I actually filled the space. The space you see on my site(I admit it is probably too large, and I may go ahead and resize it, so it doesn't eat up quite as much adspace), but as it stands right now, that adspace has the poetential to make 45k (much more than I'd make with a banner that size in that spot for 5 years i'm betting unless I was to get huge soon), at 25 cents a pixel, as the blocks are sold in 10x10 blocks for 25.00 each. This may seem like a steep investment, but when I take over the porn world :) , in the future, and can send some nice traffic, the investment will pay for itself over time. Ads guaranteed until atleast 2011, so that's a link ad for atleast 5 years, but if i should fill it up, would most likely just leave it permanently.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd34

Secondly, you are opening yourself up to two potential issues with Search Engines. First, you now have a page with 300+ exits which diminishes the value of your influence to any site pointed to from that page. Second, you are potentially putting yourself in a 'bad neighborhood' with the search engines.

This does concern me. Do you mean I could be putting myself in a bad neighborhood by having so many exits, or by the pages I link to? All purchased ads have to be approved and published by me before they ever go live, so I have control on who and where I link to from the pixel ads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd34
DangerDave (and Bill has repeated this) has often said, sometimes it is more important who you don't link to than who you do link to. (pardon me if I paraphrased it a little incorrectly)

Yep, and I think that is some solid advice. |thumb

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd34
Now, had you been first on a high surfer traffic page or been able to get the media to trumpet your page to provide good value to your pixel buying clientele, you might have had something unique. However, you weren't first, you can't really get the media support behind it, so, you could be labelled a copycat. Look at why the original page was successful... first, unique, and great word-of-mouth.

I agree with most of this, except the part about possibly being labeled a copycat. The reason I tend to disagree with that, is because isn't that what we all do? Copy a successful biz model and try to make a profit? For example, and this is different, but somewhat the same to me...
1. Who started the first TGP, LL, Blog? They are the originals, and everyone else copied the model.
2. Once category recips hit the scene, they spread like wildfire, now almost everyone is doing that.
3. Sponsors tend to copy the other sponsors as far as types of promo materials offerred, for example, now we're starting to see hosted movies and hosted thumbs pop up. It won't be long before most of them are doing that, with the exception of one program I won't mention by name, that still has yet to provide hosted galleries. |crazy|

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd34
I don't know whether it will work or not. It is my impression that it won't outperform sending a sponsor that traffic using the same page real estate that you have committed to the pixel ads.

I don't know either, but that's why I wanted to try it. I didn't exepct to get my ass slammed by other respectable webmasters here. Guess that's the price I had to pay for trying to introduce this. |banghead|

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd34
But, I certainly wouldn't be adverse to giving it a try to see how it did. Never be afraid to try something new, but, make sure you aren't throwing more traffic at it than you can afford to lose. A cardinal rule in testing is generally -- never do anything that affects more than 50% of your traffic.

Good luck with it either way you choose to go.

Great advice, that's the 2nd time I've been told not to be afraid to test and try new things today, which is why I don't understand why the idea got trashed so bad. Thanks for the luck, I'm probably gonna need it. Just want to thank you again for actually bringing some discussion to this instead of just trashing me and my attempt at this idea. :D

cd34 2006-02-08 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood
I agree with most of this, except the part about possibly being labeled a copycat.

There's a difference between being the first to make a cell phone and being the first to sell a pet rock.

what I was trying to convey is that being first will usually garner a bit more traffic and income potential than doing what someone else has done. Not that being second has any real implications, but, the novelty of the first site got notoriety and publicity. Many things in the industry are copied, that is for sure.

Being second you have to work much harder to get money out of someone's pocket to buy your ads or offer a better deal and probably won't enjoy the word of mouth boost that the first site received.

swedguy 2006-02-08 07:25 PM

All you haters. Just wait until I release the NexGen Pixel Script. The 1 mill script will seem like a gay choir boy on a skinhead concert!

* DRUM ROLL *

* DRUM ROLL *

Baadddddaaaa dddaaaa daaaappppaaaa daaaaaaa

1 BILLION PIXEL SCRIPT !!! It will OWN Your local 50" screen!!

:D

Surfn 2006-02-08 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedguy
All you haters. Just wait until I release the NexGen Pixel Script. The 1 mill script will seem like a gay choir boy on a skinhead concert!

* DRUM ROLL *

* DRUM ROLL *

Baadddddaaaa dddaaaa daaaappppaaaa daaaaaaa

1 BILLION PIXEL SCRIPT !!! It will OWN Your local 50" screen!!

:D

I'll lease you a terapixel page :D

LowryBigwood 2006-02-08 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedguy
All you haters. Just wait until I release the NexGen Pixel Script. The 1 mill script will seem like a gay choir boy on a skinhead concert!

* DRUM ROLL *

* DRUM ROLL *

Baadddddaaaa dddaaaa daaaappppaaaa daaaaaaa

1 BILLION PIXEL SCRIPT !!! It will OWN Your local 50" screen!!

:D

Who's got some boxing gloves I can borrow? |knockout|

|asshole|

swedguy 2006-02-08 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood
Who's got some boxing gloves I can borrow? |knockout|

|asshole|

Play nice or I'll throw pixels on you.

msanchez 2006-02-08 11:44 PM

Just one thing I noticed with this script is that it needs to be tweaked a little bit to display the links in a satisfactory way, becasue by default its by iframe. Well if you care about it being in an iframe or not.

Cheers

LowryBigwood 2006-02-09 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedguy
Play nice or I'll throw pixels on you.

Ok, no pixel throwing! I'm probably gonna have nightmares about my pixels at this point. Thanks! |cheers| :D

LowryBigwood 2006-02-09 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msanchez
Just one thing I noticed with this script is that it needs to be tweaked a little bit to display the links in a satisfactory way, becasue by default its by iframe. Well if you care about it being in an iframe or not.

Cheers

That would be way over my head. I don't have a clue how I'd do that. What would the benefit to that be? And how would it pull in the pixel ads without the iframe? |waves|

msanchez 2006-02-09 01:25 AM

Well Im a bit nervous to get into the reasoning as Im sure it would open up a whole slew of replies about it, but as I understand it if you want to give the links any sort of SE benefit the iframe isnt helping that.

I got a little help with setting it up via php to get it to display out of the iframe and I dont really understand how it works as im not that great with php.

If you email the script creator he can help ya out too, but I did still have to get outside help to set it up without the iframe.

LowryBigwood 2006-02-09 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msanchez
Well Im a bit nervous to get into the reasoning as Im sure it would open up a whole slew of replies about it, but as I understand it if you want to give the links any sort of SE benefit the iframe isnt helping that.

Ahhh. I thought it might be something along those lines. I will look into it. Thanks for the idea.

|goodidea

Bell 2006-02-09 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood
Ahhh. I thought it might be something along those lines. I will look into it. Thanks for the idea.

|goodidea


when you find the fix - save the "how to's" for me...
I'll need those as well...

where / how do you make the little picture iconieee things
that customers use for display if they don't already have
a graphic to use and they don't know how to make one...
is there somewhere like a smiie-farm of pics to use ??

~Bell

msanchez 2006-02-09 01:17 PM

I just make a little banner in PSP

Bell 2006-02-09 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msanchez
I just make a little banner in PSP

I have a question...

for example on yours, the pixel ad that is a black squre with a red star
(9 squares ??) - what size in your psp would that equate to ??
are they saved as a .gif or .jpg etc. ??
is it possible to create (and use with that script) animated ads
in various pixel grouping sizes ?? - or would an ad of only
one pixel be too small for an animated ad ??

is there a limit to how many animated individual or page total pixel
ad blocks that the script can accommodate ??

thanks in advance...

~Bell

p.s anyone that knows the answers to any of these - you are more
than welcome to jump in and answer 1 or all of these :)

QuickDraw 2006-02-09 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bell
I have a question...

for example on yours, the pixel ad that is a black squre with a red star
(9 squares ??) - what size in your psp would that equate to ??
are they saved as a .gif or .jpg etc. ??

If his squares are 10x10, that image would be 90x90 pixels, simple multiplication. As far as gif or jpg, I dont think it matters, the entire grid is essentially one big image map ( I believe ) and all the script is doing is copying and pasting the bought ad into the grid (its a little more complicated then that but that's what it's doing).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bell
is it possible to create (and use with that script) animated ads
in various pixel grouping sizes ?? - or would an ad of only
one pixel be too small for an animated ad ??

The images cant be animated because the grid is essentially one big image and you cant animate only part of an image.. not without things getting extremely complicated anyway. And one pixel is way to small for anything, make a 1x1 pixel image in any image editing program and youll see what I mean.. can barely see the little fucker.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bell
is there a limit to how many animated individual or page total pixel
ad blocks that the script can accommodate ??

thanks in advance...

~Bell

p.s anyone that knows the answers to any of these - you are more
than welcome to jump in and answer 1 or all of these :)

See above, unless you do things a different way then the most logical way ( the image map method used currently ) it's really not possible. I suppose you could use absolute positioning on div's or something but that would take a bit of set up and tweaking on an individual basis. As far as total pixel ad blocks, do you mean the script linked to in this thread? I'm not familiar with it but with a few code tweaks I'm sure you could have as many damn blocks as you damn well please. As it is now I'm sure you could run multiple instances of the script with different filenames.

Having said all that - see cd34's posts |badidea| :p

Bell 2006-02-10 02:12 AM

hey... quickdraw...
thanks for the feedback...

~Bell

ronnie 2006-02-10 11:36 AM

I agree that the first one worked, and worked well was because it was original and the first. And as said, a major reason it worked was because it was so unique and got tons of media attention. Any one that does it now, does not have the ingredients that made the original work so well.

When will the media bring attention to a adult site unless it's a pornstar or real contraversial? I dont think some are really understanding exactly how and why the orginal worked.

ronnie

Bell 2006-02-14 06:28 PM

I personally think there are lots of potential uses for such a script...
not all have to be FOR SALE pixels... it can be for fun... (=traffic)
it can be earning a pixel (in a contest) and whomever completes
their full image first get's a prize (or specialized ad space / traffic)

In addition to - or instead of selling pixels for cash - they can
be barterable... they can generate something more than cash...
it's the creative way to use something - in a DIFFERENT way
that appeals to me...

having said all that - I fully intend to ALSO use it on a site or
two or three as a standard pixel ad space sales project...

but that is not the most fun usage I can think of for it...
the skys the limit on using things in a different way...
for a different purpose... in a different niche/category etc...

I think of it similar to a TGP...
by that I mean everybody and their brother has a TGP
or Link List... yet lots of us still keep cranking those sites out...
just because a gazillion people have sites like that means nothing
as far as someone else having one as well...

some will be successful... some won't...
no one can predict...

but anytime that something comes along or an idea comes along
that sparks some sort of excitement or element of fun to my
work day - then I am all for that...

all up over it like hersey syrup on vanilla ice cream...

it's a waste of anyone's time to try to talk a chocoholic out
of her herseys chocolate syrup...

|bananna|

~Bell

p.s. if anyone sees any of those sites out there - let me know
I enjoy looking at them... same as I like looking at real
magazines out on my new patio on a sunny afternoon with
fresh ice tea and the radio... not outside type weather here (ohio-usa)
so in the meantime I'll look at pixel sites.... LOL...


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