frustration with ftp setup
 

I feel like a complete fool because I cannot set up my ftp client for uploading. I can successfully make the site on my wysiwyg NVU software, but when I want to upload it to the site it uploads to the wrong parts or says path not found. I am guessing it has to do with how my pages are linked, but I am unsure how to link correctly because there is no tutorial for linking folders, directories,ect. |huh

How long did it take you guys to learn how to use your FTP properly? or is it just me?|banghead|

I can learn the business side easy, but the technical side is proving to be my downfall. Any help is appreciated.

I'm hoping I don't have to learn CSS|shocking|

have you figured your ftp problems out yet? and if not what ftp client are you using to upload your stuff?

When I started, I really had no idea what an ftp client was. Netscape, the only browser worth using was my ftp client. That and whatever Microsoft called Windows Explorer back then. When someone told me about wsftp, it made my life a lot easier.

Jim do you mean webshell FTP? That's what I have currently, and I can't seem to figure out how to organize the directories/subdirectories/folders ect to make my simple 4 page site upload from my wysiwgy software.

Kinky, I have yet to figure it out, and am ripping my hair out of my head as I type.My FTP client is WebShell.

I've been a dedicated wsftp-le fan for the last 7 or 8 years. Very basic, but you know what's going from where to where. It's just about the only way I ftp, and I use it for big and small files. |roses| Good luck with what you're trying, though. :)

Oh, your trying to upload your files using your page creation/editing software. If you can't figure it out, I'd suggest you upload the pages with a real FTP program. I personally use both FlashFXP and CuteFTP. SmartFTP has a free version. I wish I could help you, but I can't find my way around those WYSIWYG editors.

I tryed all those ftp programs and found cute the easiest to use...I think cute has a trial run and thats what I did...

if you want a really good free ftp client ws_ftp95 is free, you can download it here: http://www.ccs.uottawa.ca/download/index.html

it's the WS_FTP LE 5.08 for Windows 95/98


I've never tried uploading with editor software, just save the files into a folder on your comp and upload with a seperate ftp client like others said before |thumb

yes Jim I was trying to remember the name of the old Netscape browser, it was Netscape Navigator wasn't it? it was either that or my AOL 1.0 |jester|

I have to agree with UW. Just save your files, close your editor, open your ftp program and upload the files. Just the new pages, or the entire folder if it's new.

Also, I find it nice to have cuteftp sort the file directory by date, so that the newest stuff is always on top. Easy to find what I was working on that way.

Thanks for the replies and links guys|thumb I'm almost there|headbang|

I'm going to save and upload, and not attempt to reinvent the wheel.

Maybe you should just give up on it

just pretend your site is upload the the web |jester|

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|jester| |jester| |potleaf|

I think after I used a browser for uploading, I went to cuteftp. Then I found wsftp and that is what I have been using ever since. I also could never get the hang of using the ftp client that comes with most editors. As for using WYSIWYG editors, I never used any of them. I never liked the way they put so much extra junk on the pages that aren't needed.

I'm still using cute ftp. I'm on day 5,000+ of my free trial :D

I use ws ftp...have been for years |thumb

Always use a dedicated ftp client...you'll be a much happier camper in the long run :)

I agree with the guy obove me I wasn't happy with anything until Wizzo told me to use ws ftp

CuteFTP is my personal favorite but no matter which one it is, get some FTP software.

my personal opinion... the best ever ftp server/client is filezilla..

http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/

its opensource and stable as hell... very fast and multi threaded... i use both the client and server, and have never had either of them crash ever... which is saying a LOT for a win32 app :)

just out of curiosity, how many of you guys make from scratch your own freesites,galleries, LL, ect? I am almost at the point where I just order the damn custom templates from someone and start putting the pics/movies in for submissions. I have sales goals for the end of this year and summer of 07 that I need to meet, 6 and 20 sales a day respectively.Every day that goes by without sites to submit is another day lost|banghead|

I build everything from scratch. Period. Full stop.

I build every page with CuteHTML, a simple HTML editor.

Useless Warrior and Surfn, how difficult would it be for you guys to just stop using your current editor and use another? easy? a pain in the ass?
Or is it , you've seen one, and you've seen them all?

I don't use an editor so it would be fairly easy to quit :D

Surfn, don't tell me you


HAND



CODE?|shocking|


The mere thought of it sends my hands reeling for the phonebook to call an orthopedist.|cry|

It's actually faster once you learn it :D

Well, CuteHTML is an HTML editor, not a wysiwyg thingy. It's all raw code. But Cute color codes the tags and somewhat intuitively offers up up tag options as you work. In other words, if you type table, then hit space, a little box pops up and you can choose select width, height, class, etc if you'd like. It's like notepad, but with some frills. The color coding can be very helpful when scanning the code for problems. If you don't know any HTML, then it probably wouldn't help you. If you know a little, it will help you learn a lot more.

For me, it's damn near indispensable at this point. As far as switching to another - I don't know why I would. ;)

It really comes down to what you're used to using.

Even though I use Dreamweaver in WYSIWYG design view for the "bulldozer" work, I spend about 70% of my time in code view. Best of both worlds. Although I first learned HTML, and programming too, years ago doing it all by hand.

I'm another dinosaur that does it all with my own two hands. Did hire an outsourcer for a large 'grunt work' kinda project several months ago...turned into a complete and utter fiasco. Long story...short version is I ended up having to redo all the work the outsourcer did anyway.

And yep, it's all hand coded. I do use Notetab...very handy...kinda like notepad on steroids :D

You'll find as you go along...things get faster to do. One of the very cool things about Notetab is the ability to save snippets...that can be reused later...huge time saver |thumb

damn you dinosaurs and your hand coding, what do you think this is the cambrian explosion?:D

I do need to learn more code like you guys, is there any book or author you can personally reccomend?

Bill Gates is the best friend of my brother's wife first cousin's daddy so I always try to use his products - Back Page for web pages. I want to learn coding one day and will probably ask a useless cocksucker to teach me.

|haha

Don't really have any recommendations for books Karomesis. I have seen a few online tutorials, but most of them seemed pretty weak. I started out using an older version of DW, and quickly realized how much superfluous code it was inserting into pages. So bit the bullet and opened notepad...then later heard about Notetab.

Hand coding really isn't difficult at all...once you get the basics down |thumb

I found one of the most useful tools that helped me learn was when I saw something I liked...I'd view source and see how they did it. Of course, never directly copying someone else's work...but analyzing the code itself to ascertain how they'd created the effect that caught my attention. That's a great way to lern yerself some o them thar html skilz :D

That's pretty much what I did when I first started. I learned the basics then anything new I came across I learned how to use that by viewing source and then playing with it until I got it where I liked it.

Of course the learning curve wasn't steep at all in the stone age :D

if somebody put a gun to my head and said "hand code me a page that just says HELLO" I would be a dead man :D

I actually built my very first pages/sites with a proggy called "WebDummy" and man they were sweet lemme tell you, I couldn't even make a thumbnail but that scrolling text effect really got me excited |jester|

so have you figured out all of your FTP woes or are you still having fits??

With goals like that I suggest you invest in the proper tools to reach them. Dreamweaver, Photoshop and Cute FTP is what I use. Sure you can build stunning websites with Notepad and freeware image editing programs, but it will take you much longer. And also get some good reference books; the Dreamweaver Bible, the Photoshop Bible and an HTML reference.

It WILL be resolved this week, I have a freind who is a program engineer and he's going to walk through a tutorial with me.

Lemmy, what are your thoughts on NVU and GIMP? They are pretty easy to use for me, and do almost as much as dreamweaver and photoshop. Do you think it is sufficeint for making and submitting freesites?

I'm not familiar with either, but if they work for you and get the job done that's all that matters. :)

I agree with Surfn..alot easier hand coding. Best part about this is when you have a problem you can find it easier

Yanno...that's an excellent point |thumb

When someone asks about using an editor vs. hand coding, I don't usually even think about the huge advantage of knowing html when troubleshooting.

Knowing html also almost vital when reviewing sites. Being able to spot sneaky things quickly when viewing source code is another big benefit to being comfortable with hand coding |thumb

Newbie first post.

I like Internet Explorer built in ftp.
Simply write ftp://user:pass@ftphost and go.
Drag and drop, very simple.

I have also done som efforts in Gimp and I like this software a lot (probably because it's free :) ). The only problem was that I think doing my own content is to much time consuming.

FTP: FlashFXP all the way.
Building Pages: Photoshop + Editpad.