Sexpc.com
 

Did anyone get any notification about them changing the whole site? I did submit a dozen sites to them when they first started and that was it. Time to track and remove their links |angry|

http://sexpc.com/


|acid

Thanks very much for the heads up Sy |thumb

I had trades up with that site...HAD being the operative word. Hmmm...think it's time to send someone a lil message |angry|

Yeah thats kinda shitty. Got some links to remove myslef. Good catch

Thats what happens when sponsors get into the traffic game....don't they know to leave that to us ;-) j/k sorta.

Just spoke to someone over there...a company rep should be posting here soon :)

to blame someone else?

Guess I missed something, a sponsor bought the site? Or has owned it? Is it just me or does there seem to be a trend here. A trend I'm not crazy about. Course probably happens or is happening more than I know.

ronnie

That's the one that PimpRoll owned, I believe. The problem now is, Tom is going to have to come here and try to explain what the hell happened and take a beating that isn't fairly his. I assume that they made him the front man of that project, then probably figured out that there are no quick rewards on a link list and pulled the plug in response. It's easy to blame Tom, but let's face it, it was most likely a PR owner that has done this and left the affiliate rep out to burn for it.

UW, to be honest I think this was their plan from the start. If they thought that the link list is not generating any revenue and is a pain in the ass to maintain, then they would have sent an email to their submitters/affiliates to notify them about this change rather than just change everything around quietly. I just realized I had submitted 50 sites in bulk and had put their links on every single one but that's cool, becaue I just removed most of those links from my sites and will have the rest removed shortly.

You may very well be right about this being their plan. I really hope you're not though. I'm a fairly negative guy (you may have noticed), but I hate to think that a trusted program would do that. And you are definately right about the lack of notification. That's pretty damn unacceptable. I'm an outsider looking in as I have never submitted to them and had no link swaps, it's an ugly situation at best.

Wow...kinda surprised they haven't put in a response here yet |loony|

I spoke with Dave last night and was told the site had been given to a webmaster to maintain. Obviously, he made some significant changes to the site without notifying anyone. From what Dave said, at this point PR has nothing to do with sexpc any longer.

Originally when the site was started, Dave told me it was his baby...which was why I had no qualms about putting up a trade with the site. While he didn't say so last night, I'd suspect the time involved in growing a link list got to be too much and that's why the site was handed off to one of their webmasters.

I've already removed the trade I had up. Does really suck that no one was notified, but not surprising the guy is trying to unfairly hang on to the linkage |angry|

See post #6 |waves|

Hmmm... time to remove some index page trades it seems, anyone wants his spot? :D

Ill take their spot Fonz ;)

Touche' :D

Damnit, you beat me to it. |jester|

Well this sucks, I submitted to it pretty much the whole time the site actually worked....

If another webmaster now runs it and not pimproll why are the ref ID's for pimp1000?

hehehe, I did notice that too.

I removed their links from all sites I had submitted there (total of 68).

Good point...I hadn't noticed that id number...not cool at all :(

Oh well, I alerted them to this thread. Action or inaction as the case may be, is up to them at this point. Definitely not good from a public relations standpoint though.

It's really fucked from a PR standpoint. Better off coming here and taking the blows instead of waiting for people to get pissed and start pulling affiliate links. This shit has a bed tendancy to spin out of control when not handled properly. You just wake up one morning and your program name looks like this ******** on the boards.

Hey sorry guys n gals, I forgot to post here yesterday when I was asked to and no boardtracker notice. Damn.

Yep, the site is not a link list anymore, and I needed to remove my link trade too like everyone. Looks like it just wasn't something that was going to keep flying, and I did mention initially that it would need basically a full time reviewer/manager.

If anyone needs help changing links to another site or something, I'm willing to help if I can.

I can also link to everyones sites on some pages of my own, although I admit they dont get a lot of traffic. Token gesture maybe, but an honest one. Let me know where you want me to link to and I'll add them right in to a couple of root index pages.

Like UW said, it's really not something I was hands on with as far as maintaining or reviewing or anything, but I did neglect to drop everything to come post. Mr Yum did though, so thats cool thanks.

Oh, the pimp1000 is a house account, the site is going to come into play in some new venture, but I dont have all the details on it yet.

Oh, nobody made me the front man, UW. I come here and read and post like I have for a long time on my own (or if I get a board tracker notice) and I posted here about it voluntarily. I told them I know where quality free site builders post and read and exchange ideas and such, which is here. I've also tried to voluntarily get some advertising dollars for the board here too, but thats really not my job so I dont want to cross too many lines there. ;)

Again, sorry folks. I heard basically when Mr Yum spoke to Dave and Dave asked me to post and I was working with some people at the time and plum forgot! doh..

I'll be happy to not only give people some front page links, but if you have some no-recip or even recip versions of free sites, email me a bulk list and I'll list them on a site I have. Sites would randomly rotate in their niche as I auto-update the site every other day or so.
tom at pimproll.com, and if you could include your GG&J board name and niche.

Or what else could I do? Let me know.

Flashback to the year 2000. One night I was sitting trying to think of what domain name I would buy first. After making a list and checking whois etc I decied on hmmmm none other than sexpc.com. I thought my what a great name. So I went ahead and started the registration process with a big name registrar.A few days went by and I was not hearing anything so i took another look to see what was going on. What I found was the name listed as registered to the registrar and the very next day transfered to someone in BC Canada. I consider it my first case of being shafted in this biz. :) Someone obviously had intercepted the request and thought the same as I did that it had potential.

Just thought I would share that tidbit.

Wow Robbo, thats quite a tidbit!
Sounds sucky to me, but I dont think anyone in PimpRoll is in British Columbia, it's in Windsor Ontario. Although I see the original whois creation was back in feb 2000.
I know you didnt explicitly say you thought it ever was, but implicitly I guess.
What registrar was it so people can avoid them?

Should I bump this?

Instead of bumping this thread you better tell the lazy and dishonest owner of the damn link list to send an email out to people, not every single submitter or link list owner read this board or check to see who might be screwing them daily. If Dave has time to go to other boards and brag about his extra money, then he should have 5 fuckin' minutes for an email. Tell him stop being an asshole and act resposible.

The only place it was posted about was here, and I was the one who posted looking for sites like I said, CrazySy. Dave owns the domain, someone else was maintaining it and trashed the database long before I heard about it.

So I bumped it for the purpose of getting more exposure to the people who submitted there. Also because within 15 hours of the thread starting there was speculation about all kinds of things, but 32 hours after I got into it not a single reply.

I can understand an angry bitch thread, but it's odd that not a single person contacted me before, during, or since. A simple board search would have turned up my name. And spending days on end with people on ICQ, I'd have thought someone might have had my ICQ number if they had an issue to discuss.

If it's just an angry thread then I'll drop it. I thought discussion was being sought with all the talk of someone coming to post and all that.

I've never traded with the guy, least I dont think so, so no skin off here. Course does burn me when people trade than change a site and trades are gone, without telling any trade partners, dont think any of us, enjoy that situation. And people wonder why it can be tough to get link trades. Hard to trust people when stuff like this happens.

Not adding flames, just saying, think that was the point.

ronnie

Tom, this is not an angry thread. It's about dishonesty and lack of responsibility by someone who chooses to put one of his rep on the line rather than taking responsibility for his own action. English is my second language but I try to be a bit clear here:

Why didn't he email his submitters prior to change and let them know about it so they could take any needed action?

Why didn't he email other link lists who had trade going with him?

If a submitter changes a site after listing that would break the rules is called a cheater, scammer and many more names but when a program owner pulls a shit like that it's called a mistake? There was no mistake, he knew exactly what he was doing and I should have started this in the possible cheater forum.

All I say is, why does he have time to go to other boards and make posts such as " I have $40k extra and blah blah blah and more fuckin' blah....." but he had no time to notify people prior to change the site and send all the traffic directly to a review site?

Maybe Mr Yum knows more about it than I do, it's certainly possible I guess as he spoke with Dave directly. All I know is that I was told it was no longer a submittable site and that the database was gone.

I also had a hard link trade with the index page as I said, and had to remove it as well. I get the feeling that whoever was running it flaked out.

Dave would not knowingly link up sites then just erase the link list. Thats just not in the realm of possibility. He didnt run the site, he probably has 5000 domains with projects going on all of the time under hired hands control.

The bottom line is that it sucks for you, it sucks for me, it sucks for everyone who was linked there. I took it on myself as the person who posted it on this board to offer free link trades and free site listings with no recipricols as a gesture of apology. My sites are on autopilot, I dont take submissions. I only have 2 outlinks that are not sponsor links. One to my girlfriends private link list, and one to Robbo's top list thats been on there for years now.

To my knowledge, the ONLY people that submitted there were people from this board, since it's the ONLY place I posted about it because I KNOW there are good submitters here. I'm sorry I didnt reply sooner, I forgot about it amidst my everyday duties, but I am also getting the feeling it wouldnt have mattered. |huh

PR Tom no no implications to Pimproll at all. I have been an affiliate there from early on and quite happy. And whoever grabbed that domain many years ago it`s been passed far down the line through various owners. No need to name the registrar either. They were one of the biggest are still in operation and who knows what happened then.

Very decent gesture of you Tom...especially for something that really isn't/wasn't your responsibility.

All I know about the situation is what Dave told me, which has already been posted. Originally sexpc was his baby...he later handed it off to an affiliate (he did not say why)...at some point the affiliate killed the db and it went to hell from there. And that PR no longer has anything to do with sexpc.

However, I do have to agree with Sy. Given that PR started the ball rolling with the site and it was widely known that this was in fact a site being backed by a large sponsor, PR should have made more effort to control the site. And certainly should have made some sort of public notifications when everything went to hell. As you mentioned, most of your submitters were from these forums. A post here when the db was lost would have gone a long way toward stemming the tide ill will. And if PR didn't know the db was lost, they should have...whether an affiliate was running it or not isn't relevant, as everyone else still thought it was a PR backed site.

Again, decent of you to step up Tom...you're an honorable guy so that doesn't surprise me |thumb

But at this point, you're doing damage control for damage you didn't cause.