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Greenguy 2006-08-15 01:30 PM

Link O'Rama Rule Changes (yipee)
 
This place is to fargin small.......

I've just put some BIG rule changes into place for the Link O'Rama & when I say BIG, I mean size |thumb

You can read all the rules over here, but in a nutshell:
24 pic minimum (12/gallery)
1200 pixels for the combined width & height of images
no pics on html pages
1024 for site width

Sites that are currently listed will be grandfathered in & these new rules will NEVER apply to them (so these no need to go back & change old sites or worry aobut them being removed)

I've got more changes in the works, including one that will make you want to put my in your suitcase & take me home - it's that much love |loveyou

ponygirl 2006-08-15 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 293249)
24 pic minimum (12/gallery)
1200 pixels for width & height of images

well...ya, I'd say that's a big change. |thumb
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 293170)
I will say this - some will say "it's about time" and others will say "why'd you change that?"
I love pissing people off while making them happy at the same time :D

I wonder what the pissed off:happy ratio is right now :D

going back to recut all my pics on the new freesite I'm building....

docholly 2006-08-15 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 293249)
This place is to fargin small.......

I've just put some BIG rule changes into place for the Link O'Rama & when I say BIG, I mean size |thumb

You can read all the rules over here, but in a nutshell:
24 pic minimum (12/gallery)
1200 pixels for width & height of images
no pics on html pages
1024 for site width

WOW 1200 pixels..my ass shots might even fit now!! :D

May the |buddy| bless you PonyGirl

Torn Rose 2006-08-15 02:05 PM

DICK!!!!








I just wanted to be the first to say that.... well, the first in this thread.

Preacher 2006-08-15 02:15 PM

I already stated the reasons for my opinion in the good morning thread so I'll just repost my stance: Bastard! |greenguy|

The only problem I see in building future sites that comply is...I like to keep my pictures as high quality as is generally allowed (basically right below the 100k mark) and using larger pics will force more compression and therefore lower quality. Not like I'm a photo-optimization specialist or anything, and not like it will stop me from submitting...makes me think though if the page size is being rethought, maybe it's time to rethink pic weight too.

Preacher
(Not a Pot-Stirrer)

Preacher 2006-08-15 02:20 PM

P.S.

Thanks for the grandfathering. |thumb

Greenguy 2006-08-15 02:21 PM

Preacher - what size pics are you currently using?

WarBot 2006-08-15 02:29 PM

1024 x 768 is a pretty common dimension for large images, thats about 700 on the long side after resize. Hell, about 1/2 of my content sets werent even 700 on the long side when I bought em. When alot of link lists wont allow images over 80kb youre looking at alot of white backgrounds or alot of over compressed images. OR alot of smaller link lists changing their 80kb rule (also bad news for the submitters trying to make some money at this).

I think this is a very bad idea. To me, more content + larger images = less sales. With 120 seconds minimum of videos, 24 pics 700 on the long side, that doesnt leave much to the imagination or much reason for the surfer to pull out the plastic. Lots of happy surfers and bookmarkers for you, less sales for the webmasters submitting sites to you. I thought the idea was to make money, not to get the surfer off?

Just my .5 cents. I really hope that noone else adopts these new rules. I think its setting a very bad precedence.

WB

Greenguy 2006-08-15 02:36 PM

Hold on! Read the rule page 1st - the 1200 for images is the combined width & height (Good: 700 + 525 = 1225 Bad: 640 + 480 = 1120)

I guess I should have made that a bit clearer in my post :)

Greenguy 2006-08-15 02:41 PM

WarBot - so 2 more pics per page is going to cause surfers to not sign up to a paysite? Bigger pics will do this too?

You looked at a 500x375 pic lately? It's fucking tiny!

I'm here to make everyone happy - submitters, surfers & myself. To me, this is not that big of a deal.

People have bitched for the last year that 800 was too small, so I increase that as well as some other things based on that & it's a bad idea?

Preacher 2006-08-15 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 293268)
Preacher - what size pics are you currently using?

On the set I am going to have to recut: 449x675
[Crap I had an example linked here, but I think cd34's security is preventing me from hotlinking it :D - I can ICQ or Private message you the gallery pages if you'd like to see how that size looks]

The reason they are that specific size is because I batch processed them to 75% of their original width & height because when I tested the compression on a few of them at that reduction I couldn't see any difference from the originals so it was easiest for me to batch process both the width and the compression with like values. Honestly, it won't be that hard to recut them to comply. |thumb

Fonz 2006-08-15 02:46 PM

Nice updates. Away with those tiny 500px pics.
That width and height combined rule reminds me of an old gold site rule :)

So are we all going to copy these rules now like the copycats that we are? :)

docholly 2006-08-15 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preacher (Post 293267)
P.S.

Thanks for the grandfathering. |thumb

AMEN!! |thumb

and the time extention:

Quote:

*NOTE*
New Rules Posted August 15 2006 (effective August 21 2006)

ponygirl 2006-08-15 02:56 PM

I don't mind those rules...I like using 24 pics anyway, you can vary your gallery designs easier that way. The 1200 is going to hurt some people I think, if the subs I see are any indication, and I agree that some pic size rules may have to change if more LLs adopt this, but you can still get under 100kb pretty easily imo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonz (Post 293276)
So are we all going to copy these rules now like the copycats that we are? :)

:D lol

Preacher 2006-08-15 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docholly (Post 293278)
*NOTE*
New Rules Posted August 15 2006 (effective August 21 2006)

|doh| Doh! Did not even see that. I guess I've got 2 free-sites to get submitted before Monday - hub or no hub! |thumb

Greenguy 2006-08-15 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preacher (Post 293275)
On the set I am going to have to recut: 449x675...

You know, I was going to put it at 640x480 but the widescreen pics throw off my 4:3 ratio rule. Then I was going to have the rule say that the minimum width or height would have to be 500, but then I thought about all the sites I'd get submitted with pics that are 500x500 :D

The 1200 total (yes Fonz - I stole it |thumb) made the most sense in my head.

WarBot 2006-08-15 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 293274)
WarBot - so 2 more pics per page is going to cause surfers to not sign up to a paysite? Bigger pics will do this too?

You looked at a 500x375 pic lately? It's fucking tiny!

I'm here to make everyone happy - submitters, surfers & myself. To me, this is not that big of a deal.

People have bitched for the last year that 800 was too small, so I increase that as well as some other things based on that & it's a bad idea?

I agree that 500x375 is tiny. And yes, its my opinion that more + higher quality free content = less sales. Most of my images are 640x480 or 680x510, both are too small for link-o-rama. Im no expert and its your site, Im just offering you my thoughts.

Cheers
WB

Nenad 2006-08-15 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 293249)
1024 for site width

|bow|
:clap: :clap:
|thumb

gomin 2006-08-15 03:43 PM

I agree that 1024 is becoming a standard nowadays, but almost all ll's won't accept anything bigger than 800 for a time.
Will you still accept 800 for site width?

stuveltje 2006-08-15 03:57 PM

bad bad GG|catfight| just teasing , nice new rules:D|thumb still means i hve to sett my screen on 1024, i will get blind again .........damn this bizz:D |jester|

Greenguy 2006-08-15 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomin (Post 293301)
...Will you still accept 800 for site width?

Of course.

stuveltje 2006-08-15 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 293312)
Of course.

ah stu can keep the screen on 800|bananna|

Itchy 2006-08-15 04:20 PM

Quote:

General Rules:
> - minimum of 20 pics (minimum of 10 pics/page) OR minimum 120 seconds of movies (minimum 10 sec/movie)
oops lol :)

gomin 2006-08-15 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuveltje (Post 293314)
ah stu can keep the screen on 800|bananna|

|thumb

Magix 2006-08-15 04:38 PM

damn most of my pics are 640 X 480 :( so it fucked up :( so i must change a sponsor :(

Magix 2006-08-15 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 293273)
Hold on! Read the rule page 1st - the 1200 for images is the combined width & height (Good: 700 + 525 = 1225 Bad: 640 + 480 = 1120)

I guess I should have made that a bit clearer in my post :)

so you won't be accepting sites with images 640 +480 ? :( |banghead| |banghead| |banghead| |banghead| |banghead|

Kinky 2006-08-15 04:44 PM

nice! 12+ pics... bigger pics... there are thousands and thousands of surfers that instantly click out when they see a tiny lil 10 pic gallery with crappy content, happy surfers are spending surfers, good content is king |thumb

iMan 2006-08-15 05:57 PM

Progress! Onward and upward |thumb

MrYum 2006-08-16 11:25 AM

Looks good Greenie |thumb

Glad to see 800 wide is still accepted...had me worried on that one for a minute there :D

Greenguy 2006-08-16 11:39 AM

I sort of assumed that everyone would know that 800 wide would still be accepted - it's not like I was declining sites that fit at 600 last week :D

sue-fl 2006-08-16 12:02 PM

I'm just glad I have to Monday!! I have some freesites ready to submit and they don't comply with the rules. Thanks for the extra time Greenie or I'd be crying right now. |thumb

Cleo 2006-08-16 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 293249)
1200 pixels for the combined width & height of images

Math just never was my thing. |banghead|

I'm just glad we aren't using pentacontagon shaped pics. :D

JustRobert 2006-08-16 12:35 PM

At first I had some problems with these changes, but before I started typing I took a moment and thought about the changes. After 10 minutes of my 2 brain cells fighting they came to the conclusion that this is just fine by us.

The 1200 total is a pain in the ass. Most of my images already comply with this so I do not care but why not make it 700 on the long side. Easier for those that hate math.

The 120 seconds of video I never agreed with. I believe the freeloading bastards should pay for quality/quantity videos. I do not do vids so it doesn't affect me. I prefer arousing pics.

Kind of like all the free hardcore thats out there. They should be paying for that as well. I have read that those that started in the early days blurred the hardcore parts and sales rolled in but somewhere along the way that changed and sales slowed down in the fight for traffic versus sales. Same reason the DOJ is up some peoples ass, too much free and twisted hardcore. Just my thoughts.

Can't wait to see what the next changes are :)

MrYum 2006-08-16 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 293548)
I sort of assumed that everyone would know that 800 wide would still be accepted - it's not like I was declining sites that fit at 600 last week :D

Now Greenie...we all know what they say about 'assuming' :D

Seriously though, it's good to see some carefully thought out steps forward |thumb

Greenguy 2006-08-16 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRobert (Post 293570)
...The 1200 total is a pain in the ass. Most of my images already comply with this so I do not care but why not make it 700 on the long side. Easier for those that hate math....

Normal 4:3 pics will work with the 700 rule, but those wide-screen 16:9 pics would have to be 800 on one side.

I could make it 800 on one side if that makes it easier for everyone |couch|

|waves|

Greenguy 2006-08-16 01:53 PM

That last post was #18750 for me - if i was a comic book, it'd be a collector's edition :D

JustRobert 2006-08-16 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 293597)
Normal 4:3 pics will work with the 700 rule, but those wide-screen 16:9 pics would have to be 800 on one side.

I could make it 800 on one side if that makes it easier for everyone

I did not think about the wide-screen stuff, makes more sense now.

I'm good with 800 as well, though that may make it harder for some people. :)

frankthetank 2006-08-16 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 293274)
WarBot - so 2 more pics per page is going to cause surfers to not sign up to a paysite? Bigger pics will do this too?

You looked at a 500x375 pic lately? It's fucking tiny!

I'm here to make everyone happy - submitters, surfers & myself. To me, this is not that big of a deal.

People have bitched for the last year that 800 was too small, so I increase that as well as some other things based on that & it's a bad idea?

I donīt think two additional pics will have any influence to the signups. But on the other hand content requirements are growing steadily.

The only really bad thing coming with the 12/24 pics rule is that I canīt build freesites easily from my galleries. Iīm using 20 pics for galleries and could split those pics on two freesites. Now I have to use 4 more pics, so I have to change my building process.:D

sue-fl 2006-08-16 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo (Post 293568)
Math just never was my thing. |banghead|

I'm just glad we aren't using pentacontagon shaped pics. :D

I suck at math for real Cleo! I still don't know what size picture is to small for the new rules! Just have a feeling my average 600by450 is not going to work anymore |huh

Bill 2006-08-16 04:01 PM

I don't particularly like it, but what can you do.


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