Adios Donald Rumsfeld
 

AP just announced that Donald Rumsfeld is going to resign |waves|

I wonder how many others will follow?

Probably just the first of many in the next couple of weeks.
|brick

WoooHooo :)

Bob Gates as replacement???
Another Texan? |loony|
I bet there's someone in San Fran that could handle it! |goodidea

I am watching the online feed of Bush's speech did they Bleep a few words he said??

Bush is just out of it...I can't believe the crap he is saying now expecting us to blindly believe him. I guess I can believe it.

"To the terrorists, don't celebrate"
"To the Iraqis, don't despair"

I heard the beep too, wasn't looking at the time |huh

It has been a bad week for these 2 old friends

http://www.tornrose.com/Odds_n_Ends/friends.jpg

Lets hope he truely understands that the people have spoke and
gets rid of a few more over the next few weeks.

Starting next with the current AG would be nice.


Ben

And while this goes on, CNN projects Montana going to the Democrats :) Only Virginia remains and the Webb has about 6700 more votes than Allen :)

I guess the message was received.

Gosh! I feel so safe today just knowing that Linkster's Congressman is going to be the chairman of the Home Land Security Committee.

Hehe - unfortunately he'll have his hands full with Rumsfelds replacement - Gates is the guy that was in charge of the CIA position during the Iran-Contra affair - seems Bush's dad is circling the wagons like old war horses to make sure Geo. Jr doesnt take a fall - Baker is already there to help with Iraq

Isnt it amazing how in that press conference today Bush admitted he lied to the nation last week about not replacing Rumsfeld - and nobody blinks an eye - yet it seems to me lying to the nation led to an impeachment proceeding a few years back - totally pathetic how easily these crooks can just take more and more from you easy going apathetic "citizens"

That’s because Bush’s lies only have caused the deaths of 2000+ Americans and countless others, when Clinton lied it was about sex.... Geeze dude, you are comparing apples to oranges.

Ehhh, Presidents can lie to us all they want. Clinton was impeached for lying to Congress. But I did notice that either he lied last week or he lied today or even both. I just assume everything he says is a lie.

Why is it that durring the entire Clinton administration people seem to forget we were bombing Iraq? Hey just ask the Air Force. We bombed them every month. I guess if the news did not have so many juicy stories about blow jobs, cheating on your wife 3 times, lieing about it and how the administration invented the internet, stock market boom and rock & roll, we might have heard a little more about it. Does anyone remember him on the TV crying how he failed us and his family for lieing? I always hate to bring this crap up durring the boards festivals against the government. But seriously how many went out and voted yesterday? Oh wait! That would have been a waste of time cause it's all fixed. Now I honestly can't wait till the next president and I hope he is a democrate. I really do. Cause this is no differtant then any other party that gets in office. The people of the USA instead of looking at the better canidate just flop to the other side. Then a couple of years in office and they complain about the party. It's not the party people! It's the lack of education on the members. Democrates have done nothing for this country since JFK. All they do is start up programs that rasie my taxes in order to pay for some stupid fuck who thought it was cool to hang out on the block and not read a book. Then when that person gets old enough I have to pay for his re-education along with his 10 fucking kids, 5 ex-wives, 10 years in jail and his rehab program. The only good thing Clinton did durring his reign was sign capital gains tax reform for owning a home. Do you honestly think that was done for me or his buddies?
Ok here comes the flames let me up on my fire fighter suit. lol

You seem a little bitter juggernaut :)

:) Jim not bitter at all, just frustrated. I’m not upset that Don is leaving; he did what needed to be done. He changed the military. I did not like that the guy was really unwilling to listen to the military. Reading this stuff does get under my skin a little as I am a republican and do not flop to the other side when things are bad. I remember the 2nd term of Clinton people hated the guy. You could not turn on the TV or read a news paper where he was not doing something fucked up. He did two incredible things really. 1) Balance the budget (which was amazing and my hat off to him) 2) got elected for a 2nd term which is unheard of for a democrat. It’s unheard of for a reason. The democrat before Clinton claimed he was attacked by a rabbit while on a small fishing boat and he saw UFO’s. The one before that did nothing. He signed in tax reforms and the country still plummeted into a recession and the worse gas crisis of all time. So bad, that the entire City of NY claimed bankruptcy. And I’m sure people here will blame that on the war in Nam but remember something about that (STARTED BY A DEMOCRAT AND KEPT WAGING BY A DEMOCRAT). I'm very patriotic and because of that it starts to drive me nuts when day after day I read people complain when I know, not 100% sure but pretty sure from reading the time stamps on their posts that they do not vote or try and change anything. I vote, I vote whenever I can and make no changes to my day that will affect it. Everyone who knows me knows I'm hardcore for change, most important is in government. I think an administration that stays in office too long causes more harm then good. I don't think there should ever be a 2nd term, 4 years and your out. Another thing that drives me nuts is this Clinton hugging. Shit the guy approved Iranian Arms Transfers that helped turn Bosnia into Islamic militant society. If anyone here thinks he did not have a hand in any of the killing there then your wrong. He is the reason American businesses are looking overseas for workers. Not the republicans. Republicans do business along with running the country; Democrats do nonsense under the blanket of “It’s best for the people.” Money is best for the person, that’s all. Like I said before it's not the party, it's the people of this country who are ruining it. People can think things are fixed and nothing can change but tell that to the ones who started it. I'm sure many felt the same way back then, the only thing really different is the technology but yet they still did it. Democrat or Republican, both have sent soldiers to war. One of the most beloved presidents ever in this country sent 18k worth of Special Forces to Viet Nam to help stabilize the south. That was the start of it. Where did that get us? More people died in 1 day in that war then this wars entire timeframe to include the first one. The only way things can change because they are so fucked up now, is for people to educate themselves and their kids to include politics as a major top 3 MUST involve. You must learn about your local leaders and what they stand for, what have they done in the past and what they intend to do. Only then over a few generations can this whole mess be cleaned up. It’s not about the man or woman being an elephant or donkey.

Sorry for the book, just got up, time for coffee..

Any & all republicans can suck my big fat hairy freckled ass! |thumb

I feel a little sorry for Republicans. Kind of like when the school yard bully gets beaten up and you feel a little sorry for him :)

I see we can expect a big announcement from the good Senator Allen in Virginia in about 1/2 hour. I wonder what he is going to say. :)

I think he's going to say that he's ridden the coat tails of his father's name for long enough & that he's going to retire from politics.

what did allen say?

R

He gave up :)
So, that's it...the Democrats control both The House and The Senate :)

well, congrats all democrats!

R

Jugg I consider you a friend so I'm going to reply to your post as I would a friend: Get Your Head Out Of Your Ass
I was a registered Republican for more years than you have been alive. The Republican party used to stand for small government, a balanced budget and support for all business. look what they morphed into
Biggest Government in history
Biggest debt in history
Biggest Businesses get the vast majority of their support
I not only voted I worked my butt off for a couple days making sure my 9,000+ young Bush hating MySpace friends got out and voted too.
The News is saying that this has been the biggest turnout of under 25 year old voters in 20 years, I'm sure my "get your ass out and vote" efforts made a small number get off the couch and vote but most of the credit goes to Bush |thumb
Jugg I still love ya, but I got to tell you, your brainwashed :D

It's far easier to be a republican - there's a lot less thinking involved. You never have to question your leaders' intentions, agenda, abilities... You never have to understand your country's own history and the dirty truth that isn't taught at sub-collegiate levels. You can just sit there satisified that no matter what your government does - it's right and true.

Anyone who still feels that the invasion and attempted occupation of Iraq was justified probably also forgets to reach for the toilet paper before they begin to wipe themselves.

And well see what good it does us. Hey guess what where I live Democrats ran it here for the last 8 years and guess what. NJ has the highest taxes in the country. Get your wallets ready. I just heard on the radio that NJ government will be giving a 20% property tax break. Wonder where that money will come from. I guess we won't know till a few years down the road. Should be interesting to see.

ditto on all of the above..

Pat I consider you a friend also. But can anyone here please honestly tell me after roughly 1/2 the 60's and all of the 70's democrats got this country? If not for Ron there would still be a cold war of which the demos did nothing to try and stop. Is it ok for America to get shit on? Cause that's what happens when they are in office. That's not me saying it, it's history. I'm not saying this current administration is great but point being demos and what they stand for is not what they do. Shit my state just put the guy back in office who is under a federal investigation. Now heres another point about great and almighty Clinton. He ran under one permise that he would allow gays in the military then changed his mind and rewrote the policy to allow for a more stricter don't ask dont tell. Well now I ask, a few states are allowing a gay marrage/union. Anyone think how this will effect members of the military? Hey you can be gay in this state and be legal. but how in the world if one person is the bread winner and they are serving are they going to get their loved one covered under insurance? They can't because once they enter the office to sign them up they will be put out. They will or could be living in a state that allows it legal but since they are paid under federal wages still will not be able to be officially married in the military. Once again I ask what makes the democrats so great when as we speak more of them are up on some coruption charges then republicans? All I have seen since my post is how I need to get my head out of my ass and kissing ass. But no valid points why they should be in office other then people don't like the current administration who are republican. In the past 100 years this country has been mostly run by democrats but all the problems we have are because of republicans? I guess they made no laws, signed any bills or anything else for that matter.

Just a little note on when I say 100 years. Democrats held the majority seat for most if it. In conress
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/..._Leaders.htm#4
Congress for those who don't know, has the right to veto any law the president wants the enact.

Don't get your panties in a wad, it ain't much difference from the past.

I have been served by 12 presidents. The 6 Democrat presidents have served me for 29 years and the Republicans served me for 34 years. During my life, the Democrats had the majority in the Senate for 43 years and the Republicans for 20 years. Democrats controlled the House of Representatives for 47 years and the Republicans for 16 years.

I have woke up the morning after 32 national elections. On the morning of 11/08/06, I woke to the status que - Congress is controlled by 435 professional politicians of which 280 of them call themselves Democrats.

As long as you are governed by professional politicians and not common men, your rights will continue to erode.

The moral to this story is that I am 63 years old.

juggernaut - throw everything out the window with the exception of your business, which is porn. Porn is the livelyhood of 99.44% of the people that read this message board.

Now think about what party has pushed the 2257 crap on us in the last few years.

Republicans are very much anti-porn - so you just keep backing the people that want to put you out of business |thumb

you sure got that right Chop

GG I agree they have been over the top with their views on sex and porn. The point I have been trying to make here and maybe have not been clear enough. I honestly don't see either party as good. Do I see the republicans as better? Yes from a money point of view only. I don't think the democrats are going to go any easier on the 2257 thing. I think that's a part of a backlash we are all going to feel cause of the internet and TV. Middle America has so much weight with politics, they are the religous nuts and when they logged on the internet in order to look stuff about god, What did they get? Pop Ups and porn spam. Then the internet gets normal people to be more open about sex. But what comes from it? TV shows end up showing cartoons that have heavy undertones of sex. Southpark is a perfect example. I love the show but should a 8 yr old watch it? I don't think so, or at least if I had an child I would not let them watch it. Some families had no idea about the show so they let their kids watch it. Next thing you know little Bobby is walking around calling mom a bitch. These things also stem from the music world. Kids repete things they know nothing about, but the parents freak out tell their church and that's the end. Government listens to them cause they vote thats all. If everyone did then they would not have so much power. All I'm saying is listen to what the person who is running for mayor in your town is saying cause realisticly he/she be president. Screaming for one party or the other does nothing. They are both assholes. Learning who is best for the office is the hardest thing cause most of them are liers. But if we get involved more in local and federal politics they would get the message. One thing that people who love the demo party are not looking at is the future. They are THINKING the party is going to be their savor for all this. It just might be worse, we don't know. They have already stated they are going to try and bring the USA jobs back to USA. Ok great, but China has already stated that if we do anything that fucks with the 1 trillion they have invested in the country they are turning those dollars into other money. These things stem from a short term fix applied by a democrat at the time everyone thought was a great a idea. But no one looked down the road to the possible out comes. Both have fucked this country bad, that's all I'm trying to say. I personnaly think the republicans have fucked us a lot less then the demos.

PS re-building a box might not be able to respond in a while.

He was a man who never made mistakes.

And now he's the one to blame - like in a theater