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Licker4U 2007-01-11 09:51 AM

Converting .mpg's to .wmv
 
I heard that .wmv files are smaller in size than .mpg's. If this is true, is there a way to convert .mpg's to .wmv?

j3sUS183 2007-01-11 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Licker4U (Post 324761)
Is there a way to convert .mpg's to .wmv?

Of course it is :)

Fonz 2007-01-11 11:49 AM

Or just use windows media encoder, comes standard with every windows install :)

Licker4U 2007-01-11 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by j3sUS183 (Post 324789)
Of course it is :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonz (Post 324797)
Or just use windows media encoder, comes standard with every windows install :)


That was too easy. Thanks!

Well, the first was easy. I can't find the media encoder and I've done a search on my 'puter. I have Microsoft Movie Maker. Is it in there somewhere?

Licker4U 2007-01-11 12:06 PM

I found MicrosoftPlus! Digital Media, but you have to buy it. Not ready for that yet.

zack2004 2007-01-11 12:59 PM

This might help http://labnol.blogspot.com/2006/02/h...encoder-9.html |goodidea

Fonz 2007-01-11 01:19 PM

DOH!!! Windows Movie Maker is what I meant :)

Licker4U 2007-01-11 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fonz (Post 324821)
DOH!!! Windows Movie Maker is what I meant :)

Movie Maker can make the conversion? Kewl, I'll dig into it some more.

I did find a free converter at Google. Downloaded it and so far it's easy to use. A 20 sec .mpg that is 1.44MB got changed to .wmv with a file size of 1.04 MB. Not a big savings but for 6 clips that saves 2.4MB. Not bad.

oast 2007-01-11 06:53 PM

Anyone know if there is a similar *free* .mpg or .wmv to .swf converter?

j3sUS183 2007-01-12 01:17 AM

I don't think you will find free converter.. check out this one http://www.geovid.com/Video_to_Flash_Converter - it cost 60$ but it's really cool. You can download 10day trial version for testing :)

Let us know if you find smt free :)

Licker4U 2007-01-12 10:25 AM

Damn, I played around with the .mpg to .wmv converter I downloaded yesterday and there is a place to select more compression, or whatever it's called. I got a 20 sec. clip down from 1.44 MB to 585 KB! Now that's a savings! And the quality looks the same as the original .mpg. Kewl! |bananna|

Useless 2007-01-12 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Licker4U (Post 325036)
Damn, I played around with the .mpg to .wmv converter I downloaded yesterday and there is a place to select more compression, or whatever it's called. I got a 20 sec. clip down from 1.44 MB to 585 KB! Now that's a savings! And the quality looks the same as the original .mpg. Kewl! |bananna|

Nice. But how much savings will there be when your wmvs get hotlinked? :D
|couch|

Cleo 2007-01-12 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 325044)
Nice. But how much savings will there be when your wmvs get hotlinked? :

This is what I keep on thinking while watching this thread.

Licker4U 2007-01-12 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 325044)
Nice. But how much savings will there be when your wmvs get hotlinked? :D
|couch|

Isn't that what .htaccess is for?


|couch|

Cleo 2007-01-12 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Licker4U (Post 325119)
Isn't that what .htaccess is for?

Doesn't work with wmv files. :(

j3sUS183 2007-01-12 03:25 PM

WMP doesn't send referrer right?

Cleo 2007-01-12 03:27 PM

That is correct.

To protect wmv files you have to go with some kind of script.

Useless 2007-01-12 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Licker4U (Post 325119)
Isn't that what .htaccess is for?

Did you learn nothing from your htaccess thread? |boobies|
.htaccess will typically protect .mpg files, but NOT .wmv files.

Licker4U 2007-01-12 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 325131)
Did you learn nothing from your htaccess thread? |boobies|
.htaccess will typically protect .mpg files, but NOT .wmv files.

Duh, that's why I was hiding behind the couch |boobies| :D

KG Gary 2007-01-12 06:32 PM

With Windows Movie Maker you can specify the maximum file size that you want the converted file to be.
When you are saving the file check the button marked "to fit file size" and then adjust the number.
I'm not sure if it's the best software for compressing the files with nice looking results, but it's simple, free, and works nicely for me.
Just wanted to throw that bit of info in there.
:)

Licker4U 2007-01-12 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KG Gary (Post 325150)
With Windows Movie Maker you can specify the maximum file size that you want the converted file to be.
When you are saving the file check the button marked "to fit file size" and then adjust the number.
I'm not sure if it's the best software for compressing the files with nice looking results, but it's simple, free, and works nicely for me.
Just wanted to throw that bit of info in there.
:)


Thanks, I've been using Movie Maker today but didn't know you could adjust the file size. That's good to know. Thanks.

Cleo 2007-01-12 08:01 PM

You could always just mail 8mm movies to your surfers.

Licker4U 2007-01-12 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleo (Post 325157)
You could always just mail 8mm movies to your surfers.

Your point? Give them for free what they should pay for?

Useless 2007-01-12 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Licker4U (Post 325180)
Your point? Give them for free what they should pay for?

She was being facetious. Avoid hotlinking by snail-mailing an antiquated film format to your surfers. I got a giggle out of it anyway.

Cleo 2007-01-13 12:10 AM

And use an Apple computer too…

MeatPounder 2007-01-13 01:12 AM

Just be careful, apples have worms

Licker4U 2007-01-13 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 325181)
She was being facetious. Avoid hotlinking by snail-mailing an antiquated film format to your surfers. I got a giggle out of it anyway.

I know, I remember grainy 8mm movies when I was a teen. Ahhh, those WEREN'T the days. But I do like to listen to vinyl LP's on a turntable every now and then.

jonnydoe 2007-01-17 05:41 AM

Wow i learned something in this thread... I did not know that wmvs could not be hotlink protected...the russians have been eating my ass the last few days.

The more I search I am not sure you guys are right about this one...

jonnydoe 2007-01-23 07:03 PM

I'm blocking .wmv hotlinking via .htaccess. |bananna|

Licker4U 2007-01-23 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnydoe (Post 326951)
I'm blocking .wmv hotlinking via .htaccess. |bananna|


Give me a URL of a site with .wmv's and I'll try it

jonnydoe 2007-01-23 07:16 PM

http://www.lottoporn.net/big-tit-pat...07/movie10.wmv

It should 404 on you. I posted it on the bottom of the site in my sig and it seems to be working fine from here. There might be a way around it but I think this should stop the majority of it...|headbang|

Licker4U 2007-01-23 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnydoe (Post 326954)
http://www.lottoporn.net/big-tit-pat...07/movie10.wmv

It should 404 on you. I posted it on the bottom of the site in my sig and it seems to be working fine from here. There might be a way around it but I think this should stop the majority of it...|headbang|


I tried it and you're right, came up 404. Care to share how you did it? Everyone says it can't be done with .htaccess

Useless 2007-01-23 09:13 PM

Try again. http://www.uselesswarrior.com/hot.html You can block a link, but not the embedding of the .wmv.

Btw, the URL is incorrect. It should be Movie with a capital M.

jonnydoe 2007-01-23 09:34 PM

Shit you're right UW...It was the lack of the cap M that was making it 404! Damn I thought I found something there. You say that you can block the hotlink? How to with .htaccess? Still blocking the hotlink is going to cut down on a lot of loss...

Useless 2007-01-23 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnydoe (Post 326975)
Shit you're right UW...It was the lack of the cap M that was making it 404! Damn I thought I found something there. You say that you can block the hotlink? How to with .htaccess? Still blocking the hotlink is going to cut down on a lot of loss...

:( I know your pain.

With .htaccess, someone can't link directly to the .wmv and bypass your page. That's why we get your little replacement image when we click a direct link to http://www.lottoporn.net/big-tit-pat...07/Movie10.wmv But since referral info isn't being sent by the embedded player, .htaccess can't stop the .wmv from being pulled onto someone else's page. It's definaltely wise to have .wmv on your anti-hotlink rule so surfers won't post direct-to-movie links on their forums and such. If they want to share your movies with their free loading pals, they'll have to put a link to your gallery. Most surfer forums, I'd imagine, won't enable HTML so that a surfer could embed a movie file within a post. Of course, there are many other cocksuckers out there to worry about.

I'm going to pull your links out of my little test page now. |thumb

jonnydoe 2007-01-23 10:13 PM

You really pissed in my beer! I thought I had the best thing since sliced bread ;-) Anyway I suppose just plugging up the holes of image and wmv hotlinking while redirecting bad referring URLs is about the best that can be done. From my server logs today it is pretty decent and I was actually paid a little bit instead of it costing me in terms of bandwidth usage. I suppose you could go with the mpeg but you would only gain a few percent of Mac users and almost double your file size. It would take alot of smart embedders to overcome the savings from wmv I think plus you have to consider the increased load placed on your server by the larger mpegs. Thanks for bursting my bubble :-)

Cleo 2007-01-23 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnydoe (Post 326980)
Y I suppose you could go with the mpeg but you would only gain a few percent of Mac users and almost double your file size.

Macs have always played wmv files but the player from Microsoft was hideous.

These days Flip4Mac, which is free, allows QuickTime to play wmv files so unless you look at the file you don't even know if it is a wmv or something else.

The format that I would really like to use is mpeg-4 (.mp4) but Windows users don't seem to like this format.

jonnydoe 2007-01-24 12:49 AM

[quote=Cleo;326986]Macs have always played wmv files but the player from Microsoft was hideous. QUOTE]


I guess the support just has not been native then. Personally I like QuickTime about as much as RealPlayer. They both like to pop-up at you and live in your tray. I'm not a fan of MS but just very used to it...If it were up to me everything would be open source. With your comments Cleo I can see even less reason to consider using mpegs...

Cleo 2007-01-24 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jonnydoe (Post 326992)
I guess the support just has not been native then. Personally I like QuickTime about as much as RealPlayer. They both like to pop-up at you and live in your tray.

I've heard other Windows users say this as well. On a Mac QuickTime is just another application that doesn't do anything unless you actually use it for something but then Macs don't have a tray or pop messages up.

But QuickTime does get installed as part of iTunes and since the iPod has become such a huge success I'm guessing that these days QuickTime is common on PCs these days.

On the paysites that I manage we use mpeg-1 files since it seems to be the only format that gives us zero problems with members.

CPR 2007-01-29 06:36 PM

Long time lurker, first time poster... :)

Don't know if this is OT or what, but have used MPlayer encoding with some success. At least regarding mpg -> "lighter format" conversions.
http://web.njit.edu/all_topics/Prog_.../encoding.html

Concerning the hot-linking can't you just use a directive like:


SetEnvIfNoCase Referer "[MYDOMAIN\.]" local_ref=1

Order Allow,Deny
Allow from env=local_ref



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