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Wiggles 2007-01-30 06:50 PM

how many LLs do you submit freesites to?
 
lets say on average per day, since it can vary based on niche.

Maj. Stress 2007-01-30 07:10 PM

usually 48

Useless 2007-01-30 07:15 PM

3, 3 and a half.

stfuvt 2007-01-30 08:13 PM

just started submitting to 80 and even got rejected at some of them already
damn
I was submitting to 48 before

oldbrad 2007-01-30 09:15 PM

16. I'll add a few more (mainly people i see around here) but i need to build more and get invites eventually from some of them to their pass only lists. I'll need to put in the work first :)

Beenie 2007-01-30 09:57 PM

Submit to a massive 105 linklists but will need to cut it down... Don't submit every day even though I would like to - trying to do one every other day

Wiggles 2007-01-30 10:01 PM

I started out doing about 120 but I think i'm gonna cut it down to about 40 or so.

RedCherry 2007-01-30 11:47 PM

12 - 40 sites. Like you said, depends on the niche.

Tvduijn 2007-01-31 02:08 AM

I usually submit to 45 lists.....more then enough.

Jel 2007-01-31 02:40 AM

15 -30 here depending on niche. Vast majority of the time just 15 or so.

SheepGuy 2007-01-31 02:56 AM

Almost always 16, sometimes 12, rarely 32. But I mostly submit AVS sites, for freesites I've got it narrowed down to 24 but I might boost it to 30. Can't see any sense in going higher than that without some good partner accounts.
With freesites I might do 2 or 3 a month, AVS's are almost every day.

Danielle 2007-01-31 03:59 AM

Use to submit to well over 100 link lists. After analyzing sales in detail.... 99% of sales are coming from 9 link lists. So now I just submit to 9 link lists on a regular basis.

Hugs,
Danielle

stfuvt 2007-01-31 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beenie (Post 328566)
Submit to a massive 105 linklists but will need to cut it down... Don't submit every day even though I would like to - trying to do one every other day

How much time does ti take for you?
just curious :)

JackDaniel's 2007-01-31 08:11 AM

usually 40

skopintsev 2007-01-31 12:24 PM

36 LinkLists at the moment.

bDok 2007-01-31 12:24 PM

Started submitting a week or two ago and had a massive list. After some work getting it down into the 50s. Suspect it will eventually end up around 30-40 and will probs weed some out and some other ones in that require partner accounts.

Can't wait until I have a stock of 50+ or so templates to rotate content thru. So won't have to be designing a brand new site each day. Will just be able to edit things around.

LowryBigwood 2007-01-31 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danielle (Post 328618)
Use to submit to well over 100 link lists. After analyzing sales in detail.... 99% of sales are coming from 9 link lists. So now I just submit to 9 link lists on a regular basis.

Hugs,
Danielle

What 9 LL's? :D

I am submitting to 16-20 a day currently, but about to step it up closer to 100 a day.

Useless 2007-01-31 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowryBigwood (Post 328763)
What 9 LL's? :D

The only way to know which link list is responsible for a sale would be to code your free sites to catch the referrer and carry that through to sign up. I really wouldn't take advice from someone whose ass is hanging out, unless they're a plumber. It's all traffic, whether you choose to submit to 500 lists or 7 and 3/4. Generally speaking, link lists get their traffic from all the same places: SEs, bookmarkers, recip link trickle, and link swaps.

emmanuelle 2007-01-31 02:05 PM

This looks like a good time to ask a couple of dumb questions.
1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

2- This question is for Danielle- I'd love to know how you got over 100 link list owners to accept your freesites. Don't link list owners prefer that you offer them as hfs? After all, you've had a paysite and affiliate program for some time. For some reason I've always assumed that link list owners would not be receptive to me submitting my own freesites on a regular basis. I could be wrong though, and would love to hear it :-)

Useless 2007-01-31 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle
1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

That is competely dependent on whether or not the individual submitter feels that it's worth the effort. I personally find submitting to be a very stressful and time-consuming process. Therefore, my list is exceedingly short. I also prefer not to create mirrors of my free sites in hopes that the SE gods and goddesses with bestow many blessings upon them. Yes, I could alter each mirror, but that falls back to whether or not one feels it's worth the extra effort. Most mass submitters simply mirror like crazy in an attempt to grab as much traffic as possible. I've wondered if it's truly worth it, from a sales standpoint, but the people who admit to submitting to all 7,000 link lists tend not to post too much and never really state its value. They must be too busy submitting.

Wiggles 2007-01-31 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle (Post 328780)
This looks like a good time to ask a couple of dumb questions.
1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

2- This question is for Danielle- I'd love to know how you got over 100 link list owners to accept your freesites. Don't link list owners prefer that you offer them as hfs? After all, you've had a paysite and affiliate program for some time. For some reason I've always assumed that link list owners would not be receptive to me submitting my own freesites on a regular basis. I could be wrong though, and would love to hear it :-)

i think you missed the point about freesites.

emmanuelle 2007-01-31 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiggles (Post 328847)
i think you missed the point about freesites.

Maybe you can fill me in then?

Useless 2007-01-31 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiggles (Post 328847)
i think you missed the point about freesites.

If you have a point, make it. What's the value of an empty remark like that? She knows full well the point of free sites and hosted free sites.

SheepGuy 2007-01-31 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 328810)
That is competely dependent on whether or not the individual submitter feels that it's worth the effort. I personally find submitting to be a very stressful and time-consuming process. Therefore, my list is exceedingly short. I also prefer not to create mirrors of my free sites in hopes that the SE gods and goddesses with bestow many blessings upon them. Yes, I could alter each mirror, but that falls back to whether or not one feels it's worth the extra effort. Most mass submitters simply mirror like crazy in an attempt to grab as much traffic as possible. I've wondered if it's truly worth it, from a sales standpoint, but the people who admit to submitting to all 7,000 link lists tend not to post too much and never really state its value. They must be too busy submitting.

I agree, I love building but I hate submitting and mirroring |yawn| I try to time my submitting so it only takes up the first period of a hockey game. I'll only mirror a site that I feel really kicks ass and since I'm my own harshest critic not many pass that test ;) Also, I rarely spend much time worrying about SE's unless I'm working a small niche where the competition's not too tough.

Preacher 2007-01-31 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle (Post 328780)
This looks like a good time to ask a couple of dumb questions.
1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

2- This question is for Danielle- I'd love to know how you got over 100 link list owners to accept your freesites. Don't link list owners prefer that you offer them as hfs? After all, you've had a paysite and affiliate program for some time. For some reason I've always assumed that link list owners would not be receptive to me submitting my own freesites on a regular basis. I could be wrong though, and would love to hear it :-)

2) Personally I'd have no problem listing freesites from sponsors,though I've only seen a few in the past. The main problem I see, is the same as it is for HFS, it kind of discourages me from building free sites for that sponsor for fear of redundant content.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 328810)
That is competely dependent on whether or not the individual submitter feels that it's worth the effort. I personally find submitting to be a very stressful and time-consuming process. Therefore, my list is exceedingly short.

That is me to a "T".

Chop Smith 2007-01-31 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 328769)
... I really wouldn't take advice from someone whose ass is hanging out, unless they're a plumber.

Unless she has a "Sparky" type husband and she does. I am sure that she did not pull that list of nine from her ass.

KG Gary 2007-01-31 07:25 PM

For a niche like mature or oral I submit to around 72. For some of the more obscure niches it's more like 30-40, depending on who doesn't accept the variety of porn I'm promoting, like pregnant or watersports.

72-ish Link Lists is the number I'm used to submitting to now, so on those days where I'm promoting a less popular niche it's a bit of a blessing when the submit time is halved.
I don't hate submitting....yet, as it still feels very satisfying - like the end of a working day.
It usually takes me around 30-40 minutes to do a full 72LL submit using FireFox tabs, and I try my best to relentlessly do it every 24 hours and five minutes, 7 days per week.
|loony|

I hate missing a day, as I figure someone else is then grabbing my sales, and they're mine, I tell you, all mine!
:D

Keeping freesites looking different and fresh is bloody hard!

Beenie 2007-01-31 07:53 PM

Submitting to 100 sites takes around an hour give or take... but I would love to cut that down to 30minutes
Submitting is the worst part of freesite making hehe and I feel that my time could be focused better at some points... I don't mind submitting in the morning if everything is ready for it - submitting and morning coffee seems to go well together :D

Useless 2007-01-31 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chop Smith (Post 328867)
I am sure that she did not pull that list of nine from her ass.

Well, that slit back there would simplify matters if she chose to do it that way. ;) Seems like I'm always picking on Danielle. I just can't help but to mention that ass thing. I have a nightie just like that. (Don't tell Preacher)

Danielle 2007-02-01 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle (Post 328780)
This looks like a good time to ask a couple of dumb questions.
1- Why wouldn't someone submit to as many as possible? At least every one that generally accepts them?

2- This question is for Danielle- I'd love to know how you got over 100 link list owners to accept your freesites. Don't link list owners prefer that you offer them as hfs? After all, you've had a paysite and affiliate program for some time. For some reason I've always assumed that link list owners would not be receptive to me submitting my own freesites on a regular basis. I could be wrong though, and would love to hear it :-)

I don't submit my own freesites for my paysite unless the link list does not use fhg's. I am talking about sites we build for other sponsors.

Hugs,
Danielle

Danielle 2007-02-01 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 328895)
Well, that slit back there would simplify matters if she chose to do it that way. ;) Seems like I'm always picking on Danielle. I just can't help but to mention that ass thing. I have a nightie just like that. (Don't tell Preacher)

I want to see you in that nightie. :)

Hugs,
Danielle

Licker4U 2007-02-01 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danielle (Post 328916)
I want to see you in that nightie. :)

No you don't |shocking|

HowlingWulf 2007-02-01 02:48 PM

Generally around 30, but I plan on cutting that down to 20 or so. Building a fresh free site is the (short) wall for me. Submitting isn't too bad.

Danielle 2007-02-02 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Licker4U (Post 329090)
No you don't |shocking|

So I take it you have had the privilege of seeing him in that nightie?

How was it? :)

Hugs,
Danielle

Xallow 2007-02-02 12:13 AM

I am currently submitting to 80 ll's, but I think I will be cutting that down to about half, though I havent quite made up my mind about it yet

Thotmes 2007-02-02 02:13 PM

220
 
Hi

I've just submitted my new fs to 220 LL's


Thotmes

fredicus 2007-02-04 10:48 AM

I post to about 40 a day, cycling about two dozen freesites on four domains ... yeah, I know, I need a life |cry|

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Tobbe 2007-02-04 10:55 AM

I usually submit to 30-40 linklists!

Shark 2007-02-04 04:49 PM

16 -17 from one FS. (this time, in past was more. now i need only big guys)

fresh 2007-02-09 05:02 PM

i used to submit to 48, but since i hear nothing from many of them i submit to 24 now.. Its not that easy to find 48 active LL for me...


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