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Tekster 2007-02-21 01:09 PM

New FS - Need advice and opinions
 
Here is my Free Site: http://www.monsterpink.com/fs/bb/gir...cum/index.html

Is it good enough to be listed? Also what category would you listed under; is blowjob, cumshot good, or more like a hardcore category?

MrYum 2007-02-21 01:46 PM

Ah, you've learned very well |thumb

The site looks great...I see zero defects :)

Only comment I'd have is I've never been nuts about using a webmasters link on free sites. Frankly, that's not really information we want surfers to focus on anyway.

Oh, and noticed one hiccup most likely from your html editor...see this a lot. In one block of text on gallery one, you've got "don�t" instead of "don't".

Beyond that...well done |thumb

Tekster 2007-02-21 02:53 PM

Thanks MrYum, I had a good teacher :D

I changed the webmasters link to one hub of mine and fixed the "hiccup" on gallery one.

What a about the category it belongs to?

fresh 2007-02-21 03:29 PM

looks good but why you give that much free porn, well guess you add galleries here. And 2257 is needed on index page only

MrYum 2007-02-21 03:29 PM

Sorry about that Tek...missed responding to that part...duh

Hmmm...well, in general terms...always submit the your sites to whatever category best fits your content...not what best fits the paysite. Ultimately, the goal is for your site to match the category, which matches your content, which matches the paysite you're promoting. That sequence creates the best targetting of the traffic and should result in the best sales numbers.

To answer your question about this particular site, the content is a bit of a hodgepodge...

Gallery one has some oral, some hardcore and a little cumshot content.

Gallery two is pretty much all oral, with some facials shots.

You'll get listed more consistently by keeping your content consistent to whatever niche you're submitting to. Also, most reviewers (myself anyway) like to see at least half the pics specific to the niche.

I'd submit this site to oral/blowjobs. There should be enough oral content in that first gallery to satisfy most reviewers, but there's not enough hardcore or cum to pass muster.

Hope all that makes sense :D

Oh, almost forgot...you have one pic out of sequence in gallery one. She's fucking...she's throating...she's fucking again...ooops

MrYum 2007-02-21 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fresh (Post 333197)
looks good but why you give that much free porn, well guess you add galleries here. And 2257 is needed on index page only

You qualified to give legal advice on 2257???

Had no idea you were an attorney in the adult industry |crazy|

fresh 2007-02-21 03:58 PM

Not an attorney, let me know LLists which ask 2257 on all pages then...

fresh 2007-02-21 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrYum (Post 333199)
Hmmm...well, in general terms...always submit the your sites to whatever category best fits your content...not what best fits the paysite.

I disagree. For instance if we take milf cruiser site. There are few models that do not look like milf at all, but has big boobs. If i submit them to boobs category will the surfers like Clicking through milf cruiser site if they are looking for boobs?

ponygirl 2007-02-21 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fresh (Post 333211)
I disagree. For instance if we take milf cruiser site. There are few models that do not look like milf at all, but has big boobs. If i submit them to boobs category will the surfers like Clicking through milf cruiser site if they are looking for boobs?

hmmm...perhaps it would be better leave the answer for pros, don'tcha think :D

TekAngel that's a nice looking site. I'd agree with Mr Yum about the category, although if there were even just a couple more cumshots in the first gallery I'd take it in facials/cumshots. As a general rule, I like to see at least half the content match the category on a site.

fresh 2007-02-21 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ponygirl (Post 333214)
hmmm...perhaps it would be better leave the answer for pros, don'tcha think :D

do i have the right not to do like pros say?

MrYum 2007-02-21 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fresh (Post 333210)
Not an attorney, let me know LLists which ask 2257 on all pages then...

Well, first off there aren't many link sites that have chosen to be 2257 police, so most don't require it at all. However, for the sake of covering ones ass...it's probably not a bad idea to have a statement on ones sites. Some 'choose' to put in on the entry only...others put it on all pages, since it has no effect on getting listed. Personally, I put a link on every page I put online these days...no big deal, and this is one of those cases where I want to put up the best good faith effort possible.
Quote:

Originally Posted by fresh (Post 333211)
I disagree. For instance if we take milf cruiser site. There are few models that do not look like milf at all, but has big boobs. If i submit them to boobs category will the surfers like Clicking through milf cruiser site if they are looking for boobs?

You'll find that almost all reviewers want the site content to match the category. If you're not matching your site content to the paysite you're promoting, that's not the reviewers fault.

I do however agree that some paysites free promo content doesn't fit the niche very well. Speaking for myself only here, but when I run across that situation...I either move the site or outright decline it if it doesn't fit the niche. Again, it's the free site builders responsibility (and in their best interest from a sales POV), to use content that fits the niche.

MrYum 2007-02-21 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fresh (Post 333216)
do i have the right not to do like pros say?

You have the right to post whatever you wish, within GG&J guidelines of course.

However, if you're giving out bad advice...you should expect to be called on it and have that mis-information corrected. The goal is to help others, not to have them end up in the "why wasn't my site listed" threads...or worse.

This is one of those situations where someone who's reviewing dozens of sites daily might just have a better handle on what it takes to get listed than you do.

fresh 2007-02-21 04:33 PM

I do not mind being corrected, i just mind when somebody says me shut up in public question. Out of discussion come the truth, not out of one man talk

ponygirl 2007-02-21 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fresh (Post 333216)
do i have the right not to do like pros say?

sure you do, you can do anything you want. But in this community, don't dish it out unless you want it right back at you ;)

fresh 2007-02-21 04:40 PM

Do you feel the difference when somebody is asking for all oppinions ( meaningt everybody can speak) and somebody is asking one oppinion from specific person?

Tekster 2007-02-21 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponygirl (Post 333214)
TekAngel that's a nice looking site. I'd agree with Mr Yum about the category, although if there were even just a couple more cumshots in the first gallery I'd take it in facials/cumshots. As a general rule, I like to see at least half the content match the category on a site.

Thanks ponygirl, I wish I had a few more cumshot pics, but it is content I got from the sponsor. I will look a bit harder next time and try to match sponsor, site and content to fit the category better. Just like MrYum explained.

Greenguy 2007-02-21 05:04 PM

I'd just like to say that I do not agree with anything this "fresh" person has said about Free Sites & I do agree with everything else that has been posted in this thread |thumb

Quote:

Ultimately, the goal is for your site to match the category, which matches your content, which matches the paysite you're promoting.
That's rock solid advice.

MrYum 2007-02-21 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fresh (Post 333224)
I do not mind being corrected, i just mind when somebody says me shut up in public question. Out of discussion come the truth, not out of one man talk

Oh, what the heck...just kinda found this humorous :D

From your post in a 'why wasn't my site listed' thread.
Quote:

Originally Posted by fresh (Post 332885)
So better leave the answer for pro's, shall we?

And from the same thread...

Quote:

Originally Posted by fresh (Post 332901)
Again question was not for you, try being helpfull when you know what are you talking

Thats why i prefer sending Pm's with inquires about listing, that way no "helpers" talk when they need to stay quiet|banghead|

I realize your questions were directed to a specific reviewer in that thread, however this is a public forum and folks are free to respond to threads.

I would suggest that you try to be careful to ensure your information is solid, before mistakenly leading someone down the wrong path.

fresh 2007-02-21 05:25 PM

where i mislead anybody. I said that i disagree with you, but when you corrected me i agreed. Isnt that how forums supposed to work?

fresh 2007-02-21 05:28 PM

And yes there is nothing funny, when she told me to shut up i knew it was about what i said in hoes thread. Again i explained the difference between these 2 situations

ponygirl 2007-02-21 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fresh (Post 333256)
And yes there is nothing funny, when she told me to shut up i knew it was about what i said in hoes thread. Again i explained the difference between these 2 situations

I hope you're not talking about me. I never told you to shut up, so don't put words in my mouth. What I said was a tongue in cheek reaction because I thought it was a little amusing that you had come into this thread after what you posted on the other.

Karma is a wonderful thing |thumb

fresh 2007-02-21 06:34 PM

Again- i explained the difference between these 2 threads and it is nothing amusing
+ the guy came again with same wrong ideas after i said they were wrong. In this thread i did not came again with same wrong ideas after i was told i was wrong.
These are 2 big differences between the situations

Greenguy 2007-02-21 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fresh (Post 333254)
where i mislead anybody. I said that i disagree with you, but when you corrected me i agreed. Isnt that how forums supposed to work?

Yes, but your opinion is incorrect on a couple of things:

Quote:

Originally Posted by fresh (Post 333197)
...And 2257 is needed on index page only

I'm not a lawyer, but as far as I know, it's needed on any page that might be used as an entry to your domain. So, if a SE picks this FS up or if a TGP decides to link to the galleries, it would be required. Better safe than sorry |thumb

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Originally Posted by fresh (Post 333211)
I disagree. For instance if we take milf cruiser site. There are few models that do not look like milf at all, but has big boobs. If i submit them to boobs category will the surfers like Clicking through milf cruiser site if they are looking for boobs?

That's the reason that you do not build sites where the content does not match the sponsor. If the women don't at least look milf, I'm not going to list it in a milf category. If you submitted it to bobs & the women had big boobs, there'd be no problem on my end, but like you said, it's not a sure thing that the surfer is looking for milfs. So, like MrYum said, "Ultimately, the goal is for your site to match the category, which matches your content, which matches the paysite you're promoting"

****

I will agree with fresh on one thing - get rid of 6 non-blowjob pics from each gallery & submit it to blowjob categories (you can try for cumshots, but I'd personally probably decline it based on the lack of cumshots in the 1st gallery)

Preacher 2007-02-21 07:08 PM

Fresh, just leave it. You're arguing with two of the nicest and most giving people on this board, it can't go well for you.

I put my 2257 on every page of a freesite, always have always will. It can't hurt.

I also believe that on a page like this: http://www.monsterpink.com/fs/bb/gir...elastarrc.html at least 1/3 of the gallery shots should have cum in it if it's a cum site, I guess I'm not as strict as some others. |greenguy|

But facials and blowjobs go hand in hand so it's not going to kill you to get it listed in a BJ category if you just don't have enough cum content.

Tekster 2007-02-21 08:00 PM

I have to agree with Preacher; I also put the 2257 on every page since it does not take anything away from the site and it can't hurt.

I know that I should have more cumshots to make it into the cumshots category, but blowjobs will do for now. Maybe I will remove some pics since I don't need 18 per gallery and it would look more like a blowjob site.(Thanks Greenie)

Thanks all for the great advice.

jonnydoe 2007-02-21 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fresh (Post 333272)
the guy came again with same wrong ideas after i said they were wrong

Hey Fresh I was trying to give you some kindly advice over in that other thread and after you got bent out of shape I even apologized. And for the record...I wasn't wrong.

1) Your pictures are small...this will not help your odds of getting listed anywhere regardless of if it is a specified rule or not. If you are not submitting to the sites that follow the 1200 rule then you are missing good traffic.

2) If you would bother to take the time to read the rules on the Hoes submit page you would see that it very clearly states "no consoles"...I think even twice.

3) I tried to give you a tip on your thumbs...they need help...no argument there. This is something else that is not a written rule but will cause you trouble getting listed.

You may be correct that I should not have posted in the Hoes thread but I like to follow the review threads to learn. I know that the "Pro" reviewers don't get in there frequently so figured you might appreciate a helping hand instead of waiting for a while.

I have no hard feelings with you but try not to be so argumentative as it won't get you far here or anywhere else. If you really enjoy arguing I will give you my ex-wife's phone number |thumb

PS TekAngel...Damn nice looking freesite I think |bow|

fresh 2007-02-22 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jonnydoe (Post 333319)
Hey Fresh I was trying to give you some kindly advice over in that other thread and after you got bent out of shape I even apologized. And for the record...I wasn't wrong.

1) Your pictures are small...this will not help your odds of getting listed anywhere regardless of if it is a specified rule or not. If you are not submitting to the sites that follow the 1200 rule then you are missing good traffic.

2) If you would bother to take the time to read the rules on the Hoes submit page you would see that it very clearly states "no consoles"...I think even twice.

3) I tried to give you a tip on your thumbs...they need help...no argument there. This is something else that is not a written rule but will cause you trouble getting listed.

Again |huh ?
1- my pictures are NOT too small, do i need to adjust my pictures to all LL i do not submit to?? I get listed EVERYWHERE I SUBMIT TO. What are you talking about? Maybe i need to do 32 pictures freesites also to fit the rules of some LL i do not submit to? |crazy|

2- I tell you third time- what the hell are you talking about? If you check hoes thread you see mezzazine did not see anything wrong in my sites

3- Tip is good, thumbs on 1 of 4 my freesites are not nice, thats why i already fixed that and thumbs of rest 3 freesites are OK


This is 3d time i tell you that. Will you come 4th time saying my pictures are too small and console tours are bad?

I mean i maybe was rude there ( i did not mean that and also apologized if you notice), but common man what are you talking about...

jonnydoe 2007-02-22 12:53 PM

OK...for the 4th time console tours are bad. I have no idea why Chuck accepted that first site of yours. 7 or 8 out of 9 of the LLs on your table do not accept sites with consoles. In order to remove the console link you just need to add &cf=y to your link code.

That private whois that you have will also cause you issues with getting listed...

fresh 2007-02-22 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnydoe (Post 333528)
OK...for the 4th time console tours are bad. I have no idea why Chuck accepted that first site of yours. 7 or 8 out of 9 of the LLs on your table do not accept sites with consoles. In order to remove the console link you just need to add &cf=y to your link code.

That private whois that you have will also cause you issues with getting listed...

Again? |banghead|
I tell you 4th time: you don't know what are you talking.
I am listed at ALL places i submit !! You even do not understand what does it mean "no consoles" in the rules.
Private who-is dont cause me any trouble to get listed at places i submit. I see you advice me to revove privacy to follow the rules of Linkl lists i DO NOT submit to? Just like with picture size? |crazy|

Now i take my apologies for being rude back and say it again: Keep quiet |banghead|

Greenguy 2007-02-22 01:34 PM

I'm backing the turtle |thumb

jonnydoe 2007-02-22 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 333535)
I'm backing the turtle |thumb

Thanks Greenie...we are both green so we must be distant cousins.

Useless Warrior I will now make you feel like a proud parent ;-)

Fresh...You are more than likely hiding behind that private who-is because you have already been banned for being a cheater or maybe an argumentative Jackass. If you read like you speak then you probably have no fucking idea what the rules are. You are one of the biggest fucking idiots that I have seen on this board in a long time. Probably the last time I saw a fucking moron like you on this board...it was in fact you with a different screenname. Don't worry you stupid cocksucker I would rather eat the cancer out of a dead ape's ass than try to help you again.

Best of luck...

fresh 2007-02-22 02:36 PM

I dont know what the rules are? I get listed at all LL i submit, but you say i do not follow the rules? How come? -waiting for an answer here.
Call out all of those LL owners and say you know their rules better then they know

fresh 2007-02-22 02:39 PM

And for calling me a cheater- call out any sponsor i promote and ask what domains i promote them on and did i have any banned domains before. I don't mind you calling names on me, just i mind being called cheater. If you knew the purpose of private registration you would know it was created not for cheaters

jonnydoe 2007-02-22 02:40 PM

|waves|

fresh 2007-02-22 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 333535)
I'm backing the turtle |thumb

So same question for you - If a person makes freesites and get listed at all LL he submits. Can you call the person not following the rules? How can you back him if all what he said was wrong? Or you back him on that i should make freesite according the rules of LL i do not submit to? |bananna|

fresh 2007-02-22 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnydoe (Post 333563)
|waves|

Typical- when they have nothing to say they call names. When they loose argument they call names or pretend they dont want to continue. Takes balls to admit you lost an argument. If not- answer my last question about not knowing the rules, but getting listed everywhere |bullshit|

Greenguy 2007-02-22 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fresh (Post 333562)
...If you knew the purpose of private registration you would know it was created not for cheaters

I'd love to know the answer to this one.

I'm betting that porn is not legal in your country - am I right?

fresh 2007-02-22 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 333571)
I'd love to know the answer to this one.

I'm betting that porn is not legal in your country - am I right?

Here are the reasons domain privacy was "invented":

"Domain Privacy - secure your identity
Keep your personal information off the web with Domain Privacy. Protect yourself against identity theft, minimize spam harrassers and keep your side projects anonymous."

But i use privacy because of 2 things: If itis free for me i take it, why not. Second i dont want my friends or family to know im in porn business. This one is the main

Greenguy 2007-02-22 03:02 PM

Your friends & family do a lot of whois searches?

fresh 2007-02-22 03:06 PM

I better be safe then sorry. + this is the main reason, but not the only. + privacy is free for me. So take it or not. I take it for free.
+ if i was the cheater i would not register any domains on my personal name


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