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Tommy 2007-12-16 06:28 PM

Paying Online with your Epass Visa
 
this never works for me

but I have heard "myths and legends" that it does work:-)

has anyone ever used their epass visa card to pay for something online
is there like a secret that I dont know or something

DangerDave 2007-12-16 06:55 PM

Never worked for me either Tommy... :(

I would love to hear a solution too..

DD

Bobc01 2007-12-16 07:12 PM

I've bought domains with it, anything else seems to get rejected.

secretagentwilly 2007-12-16 07:14 PM

It works like a charm....I love it...when you're buying something from Amazon.com or something...I've used it for plane tickets on Expedia.com and for software....the catch is, from what I've deduced from all my trying, it won't work anywhere that 2Checkout, Paypal, storm, or any of those other psuedo-visa processors operate...so you can't use epass to pay for something with paypal.com, it won't work. Other than that, It's a regular visa and it's been working fine for me for years...

Ramster 2007-12-16 07:29 PM

Worked maybe once for me. CCbill, paycom and those places it simply does not work.

pc 2007-12-16 07:32 PM

I bought domains on GoDaddy and it work very well.Every ATM machine that have PLUS service work also.

Tommy 2007-12-16 07:39 PM

ok so you just input the number from the face of the card into the online form

I thought I seen something about one number for buying online and another for real life stuff

Bobc01 2007-12-16 07:47 PM

You mean the virtual visa number i think, that's what i use to buy online and the plastic card for ATM.

pc 2007-12-16 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy (Post 379741)
ok so you just input the number from the face of the card into the online form

I thought I seen something about one number for buying online and another for real life stuff

I meant plastic for ATM and virtual number for Internet >Sorry for not being specific.|huh

secretagentwilly 2007-12-16 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy (Post 379741)
ok so you just input the number from the face of the card into the online form

I thought I seen something about one number for buying online and another for real life stuff

Yeah, the virtual number is the one I use for buying shit online....as far as buying stuff at stores and getting money out of an ATM, I haven't done that...

GonZo 2007-12-16 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy (Post 379728)
this never works for me

but I have heard "myths and legends" that it does work:-)

has anyone ever used their epass visa card to pay for something online
is there like a secret that I dont know or something

Mine expired years ago.
I used it to withdrawl the money I put in it from the ATM.
Its as worthless now as it was back then.

Bill 2007-12-16 09:56 PM

I've used the virtual visa number to get stuff from amazon - it seems to work about 75% of the time. Sometimes it get's rejected when it's something from one of their subsidiary sellers, but for amazon itself it works okay. It has also definitely worked okay for some of their sellers.

But to get it to work I had to not use a ten digit zip code - epass handles the ten digit zip without a dash, and amazon doesn't like that. The 5 digit zip works okay.

I used it to buy a new DVR after a lightning strike, off of an ebay store with a pretty typical CC processing dealio - no problem at all.

I just tried to use it to buy some stuff from tigerdirect, the computer and electronics place - they took the order fine, then sent me a "trouble" email, they didn't want to complete the order, even tho they had actually charged the epass account, because it wasn't a US or canadian card. (which reminds me, I gotta check to be sure they refunded me)

This is all with the virtual visa number, the plastic swipe card is useless except for ATM withdrawals. Well, I can't say that for sure, I've never tried to use it as a regular credit card at a store, or to buy gas at a pump. Has anybody done that successfully?

Tommy 2007-12-16 10:01 PM

where do you get the virtural visa number from and that expire date and the stupid 3 digit number on the back of the card

Bill 2007-12-16 10:17 PM

I think you can get it from the website - log in and look around for virtual visa.

Ramster 2007-12-16 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy (Post 379755)
where do you get the virtural visa number from and that expire date and the stupid 3 digit number on the back of the card

Look at your Account once logged into epassporte. 2 numbers are listed, Virtual and Electronic. The electronic is for taking money out of ATMs. The 3 digit number will be in your email messages at epassporte.

RageCash-Ben 2007-12-16 11:36 PM

I actually haven't found a place where I havent been able to use mine.

As Ramster said, make sure you use the virtual card number tho, NOT the number on the card.

Keyser Soze 2007-12-17 01:15 AM

As already mentioned the Visa card is for use in the "real world" for online use you need to use the virtual card if you log in and click "Account Balance" its shows your virtual card number. The CVV2 number is located in your message center either in the welcome message or a message with the subject "Important Information" with a little pad lock next to it.
If you have any questions please email or ICQ me.

Michael

X-Man 2007-12-17 02:10 AM

works for me at MOST places to tell u the truth

NinjaSteve 2007-12-17 03:11 AM

I wonder why there are two for separate purchases (online, offline).

digifan 2007-12-17 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy (Post 379741)
ok so you just input the number from the face of the card into the online form

I thought I seen something about one number for buying online and another for real life stuff

No, you have a different virtual visa for online shopping. I am buying domains, traffic if needed, content, stuff at Amazon... it was even accepted as visa at a company using paypal. |loony|

Useless 2007-12-17 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 379773)
I wonder why there are two for separate purchases (online, offline).

That is the only question I've ever had.

I've never used the virtual number, but I've never had a problem with the plastic card when I'm out and about and wanting to spend that $25 which is burning a hole in my pocket. I've seen people say that it's only good at ATMs, but I've made plenty of purchases with it at stores and restaurants. I'm always a little nervous that it isn't going to work, or worse, the FBI is going to come running in the moment I swipe the card reader, beat me down, call me bad names, and question me as to why I have Visa card based on an offshore account, then jail me for being in cahoots with illegal online gambling organizations. And all I wanted was to buy a fucking Snickers bar. I may be a little paranoid though.

Tommy 2007-12-17 10:59 AM

I use it at atms almost every day

your limit is 300 including fees so you can only take out 280 and you must select checking

Vivaldi 2007-12-17 12:37 PM

Quote:

This is all with the virtual visa number, the plastic swipe card is useless except for ATM withdrawals. Well, I can't say that for sure, I've never tried to use it as a regular credit card at a store, or to buy gas at a pump. Has anybody done that successfully?
been there, done that, works fine every time. online or offline it works for me and keep in mind I live in shady European country + I've used it in more lighter versions of EU with no problem ... and some Arabian countries as well

blogman 2007-12-17 03:15 PM

Epass Visa work fine, i do with EV everything: domains and servers.

Receptor 2007-12-17 03:22 PM

It doesnt work with gambling sites - they don't allow it - something about money laundering (or however it should by typed)

Bobc01 2007-12-17 04:14 PM

I tried money laundering once, but all the print came off.

Useless 2007-12-17 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Receptor (Post 379896)
It doesnt work with gambling sites - they don't allow it - something about money laundering (or however it should by typed)

My understanding is that many U.S. banks won't deal with Epass at all because it's in violation of those pesky U.S. anti-online gambling laws.

secretagentwilly 2007-12-18 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 379773)
I wonder why there are two for separate purchases (online, offline).

the one offline costs $40 a year or $40 every two years...some shit like that...

secretagentwilly 2007-12-18 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 379958)
My understanding is that many U.S. banks won't deal with Epass at all because it's in violation of those pesky U.S. anti-online gambling laws.

I don't think it's because of the anti-gambling because that was going on before the US Ports and Security Bill that ended my other websites/affiliate programs...epass for some reason is considered and off-shore bank...I don't know why or more about it, but I've read that hear and there...mostly on sites that's don't accept it or affiliate programs that don't pay by it...

Keyser Soze 2007-12-18 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy (Post 379831)
I use it at atms almost every day

your limit is 300 including fees so you can only take out 280 and you must select checking

The limit can be raised depending on your balance by filling out a form or if you have 2 CCs or a CC and a US bank account attached to your account the limits can be double by upgrading to Select by clicking "Increase Limits"

bluebrit 2007-12-18 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze (Post 379977)
The limit can be raised depending on your balance by filling out a form or if you have 2 CCs or a CC and a US bank account attached to your account the limits can be double by upgrading to Select by clicking "Increase Limits"

By two CCs are you referring to epassporte CCs because when i asked about a second card i was told this was not possible?

Useless 2007-12-18 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluebrit (Post 379994)
By two CCs are you referring to epassporte CCs because when i asked about a second card i was told this was not possible?

I think he means OTHER credit cards which you can use to load your Epass account with. It's an excellent way to pay your real CC's highest percentage rate for a cash advance. |thumb I won't be doing that again.

bluebrit 2007-12-18 07:53 AM

Thanks UW. That's obvious when you point it out. If i'd had a coffee before posting i probably would have realised Keysers meaning straight away and saved myself some typing.

annie_cash 2007-12-18 08:12 AM

I bought domains on Godaddy and I always use it to pay the hosting, but at the same time there was a couple of times when I tried to buy other stuff and it didnt work for me. I guess it depends on what you wanna buy (or where).

ecchi 2007-12-18 06:13 PM

I had a conversation with CitiBank about this a couple of months ago. Long and involved story, but the bottom line is that if a processor won't accept ePass or other pre-loaded cards it is because the processor has either not fully passed all trust laws, or has been caught breaking some regulation. Apparently any damn fool can get an account to provide processing for "real" cards, but you have to be able to prove you are trustworthy (and not a gangster or terrorist) before you can process pre-loaded cards like ePassporte.

Bill 2007-12-18 07:02 PM

I just bought an ipod and a ps3 with it off of amazon. They shipped today. Worked just fine.

Yeah, paying those cash advance fees to load it, when I started the account, sucks moldy dogshit.

Why the hell does anybody use cash advance? That's some crazy shit.

ecchi 2007-12-18 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill (Post 380132)
Yeah, paying those cash advance fees to load it, when I started the account, sucks moldy dogshit.

I only ever use mine to spend money my sponsors send me, I never load it myself.

Keyser Soze 2007-12-18 08:06 PM

Some reasons for declines is that the virtual card is issued in another country than the card holder is in, Its a virtual card and its a debit card.
My personal experiences is that card holders located in the US gets declined more often because the credit card processors are stricter.

ecchi 2007-12-18 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze (Post 380136)
Its a virtual card and its a debit card.

If it is a debit card, then why don't you register it as such. It is registered as a "pre-loaded credit card" by ePassporte, this in itself limits it's use, because there are some things you can pay with a debit card that you cannot legally pay for with credit card. Someone at ePassporte has listed the card as a type of credit card but NOT a debit card. If you list the damn thing as a debit card we could use it for more things. (Source, again, CitiBank, who checked this for me: ePassporte is a Credit card only, not a debit card, and the only people who can have set this definition, or change it, are ePassporte themselves.)

ronnie 2007-12-19 11:14 AM

Now days I just use mine to get cash out of the ATM, though I pick "credit card", guess it works by using checking also?

I've used it to buy many things online and offline, with the right number of course. Can't think of getting declined much. Works fine at Walmart..:)

Only thing that bummed me out was when it stopped working with Paypal.


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