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Undisputed1 2008-12-12 05:01 PM

Who wants to start some CJs 2009
 
To try again at a failed attempt from 2005 (not b/c it can't work but the webmasters never got together)

The basic philosophy is to jerk the surfers around till they get mad for getting nothing and they grab their CC to signup. Hence the name CJ (Circle Jerk) CJ = Circle Jerk and about 80-100% to trades. Also can be used to pump your tgps/mgps.

1 exit console max and no entry console

The niches will be teen & general.

PM me or ICQ 326-455-566 (Preferred)

secretagentwilly 2008-12-12 09:11 PM

Has this ever worked?

HowlingWulf 2008-12-12 11:20 PM

I think the current trend is towards free porn tubes.

Romie 2008-12-13 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by easymama (Post 432610)
Has this ever worked?

It worked great in 97 where there was nothing else around ;)

NY Jester 2008-12-15 01:42 AM

Id rather count my cash than my clicks. CJ's do no one any good, especially the surfer. I'll pass.


Come to think of it, wasn't this a topic on OTB Saturday? Oh MML...I can hear your words echoing now :)

Star Man 2008-12-15 09:03 AM

Whats the point of spinning surfers around and around like that if they only end up at another bullshit TGP instead of your sponsors site?Besides isn't that something that would work best with your own network of CJ sites anyhow?I guess don't really get whole CJ thing.

Undisputed1 2008-12-15 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star Man (Post 432807)
Whats the point of spinning surfers around and around like that if they only end up at another bullshit TGP instead of your sponsors site?Besides isn't that something that would work best with your own network of CJ sites anyhow?I guess don't really get whole CJ thing.

you and the above guy obviously missed the "traffic pump" part. Modern CJs are used to send all the bullshit traffic to your low or no skim sites. Think of it as a filter, not just by its title

Undisputed1 2008-12-15 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NY Jester (Post 432789)
Id rather count my cash than my clicks. CJ's do no one any good, especially the surfer. I'll pass.


Come to think of it, wasn't this a topic on OTB Saturday? Oh MML...I can hear your words echoing now :)

clicks = cash |thumb but you're right sales make more in the long run, again which is why you have low/no skim sites :D

Pagan 2008-12-16 08:03 PM

I don't ever remember this working for anyone anytime anywhere. Anytime you deceive your visitors, they are not going to grab their CC to signup, they are simply going to leave and never ever return. Dont' even think of them clicking on a sponsors link. What might have worked marginally in 1997 ain't going to work now -- surfers are a whole lot wiser.

Have you ever wondered why LLs like Link-o-Rama and Tommy's and a handful of others have been around for over 10 years and are still in the top 10? Look at their inbound traffic. Is it from a lame CJ? I don't think so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undisputed1 (Post 432593)
To try again at a failed attempt from 2005 (not b/c it can't work but the webmasters never got together)

The basic philosophy is to jerk the surfers around till they get mad for getting nothing and they grab their CC to signup. Hence the name CJ (Circle Jerk) CJ = Circle Jerk and about 80-100% to trades. Also can be used to pump your tgps/mgps.

1 exit console max and no entry console

The niches will be teen & general.

PM me or ICQ 326-455-566 (Preferred)


Undisputed1 2008-12-16 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pagan (Post 433063)
I don't ever remember this working for anyone anytime anywhere. Anytime you deceive your visitors, they are not going to grab their CC to signup, they are simply going to leave and never ever return. Dont' even think of them clicking on a sponsors link. What might have worked marginally in 1997 ain't going to work now -- surfers are a whole lot wiser.

Have you ever wondered why LLs like Link-o-Rama and Tommy's and a handful of others have been around for over 10 years and are still in the top 10? Look at their inbound traffic. Is it from a lame CJ? I don't think so.

A lame CJ? You're an idiot for several reasons. How do you know this has never worked for anyone? You don't b/c this has worked you douche, and this thread was not started to bash me or CJs. If you're not interested then FUCK OFF and keep the short sighted bullshit to yourself.

Useless 2008-12-17 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undisputed1 (Post 433081)
A lame CJ? You're an idiot for several reasons. How do you know this has never worked for anyone? You don't b/c this has worked you douche, and this thread was not started to bash me or CJs. If you're not interested then FUCK OFF and keep the short sighted bullshit to yourself.

I don't care about this thread's topic, but if you want to start the name-calling, I'm ready to throw down. I can call out a cunt when I seen one, so watch your tone. If you can't manage to make your argument without insulting established members who disagree, then you are the one who needs to fuck off.

In case you haven't noticed, jerking around the surfer isn't very popular here.

Undisputed1 2008-12-17 12:19 PM

Your name is "Useless" for a reason |thumb & established? Look at my reg date fuck head.

Fonz 2008-12-17 12:56 PM

Anyone else wants some |popcorn| ?

JackDaniel's 2008-12-17 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonz (Post 433172)
Anyone else wants some |popcorn| ?

Me me :D |popcorn|

LD 2008-12-17 01:46 PM

Weren't these more popular at one time? I remember I stopped porn surfing because I hated them so much...:(

Useless 2008-12-17 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undisputed1 (Post 433168)
Your name is "Useless" for a reason |thumb

Hey dumb fuck - I named myself Useless. Why would it bother me to be called useless? I suppose you are too stupid to get the joke, just like the rest of the unoriginal fucktards who have called me useless when coming up empty on brain matter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undisputed1
& established? Look at my reg date fuck head.

Look at my cock, you filthy sack of cunt. Registering on a board doesn't make you an established member of the community. It makes you either a pussy who is too afraid to post, or a professional leach who sits lurking the boards while never offering anything back. You're just another dumb cunt who brings nothing to the table. Eat me.

Undisputed1 2008-12-17 02:30 PM

^ hey Useless. You're lame. Get lost. BTW Pagan doesn't have much more posts than me but he's "established" LMAO and i'm the cunt.

Cleo 2008-12-17 02:36 PM

Turn off your popup blocker, Click My Circle Jerk and enjoy.

Undisputed1 2008-12-17 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo (Post 433183)
Turn off your popup blocker, Click My Circle Jerk and enjoy.

yeah that's the old days of CJ and popup Hell, totally not the point of this. If a TGP sends 60% or more to trades then its technically a CJ |thumb

Greenguy 2008-12-17 03:51 PM

No one will dispute it....you're the #1 Asshole |haha

Like my Useless friend said: "In case you haven't noticed, jerking around the surfer isn't very popular here."

Undisputed1 2008-12-17 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 433186)
No one will dispute it....you're the #1 Asshole |haha

Like my Useless friend said: "In case you haven't noticed, jerking around the surfer isn't very popular here."

Then Mr Greenguy you need to change your damn forum description:

Link & Traffic Trades
Link Lists, TGPs, PicPosts and any other way to trade traffic

And I get bashed, lol. Who's the ass, yet again...

Useless 2008-12-17 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undisputed1 (Post 433182)
^ hey Useless. You're lame. Get lost. BTW Pagan doesn't have much more posts than me but he's "established" LMAO and i'm the cunt.

SHE is an established member of this community. You are nothing but some downward spiraling half-wit who doesn't know when to quit. In fact, that would be my suggestion: QUIT.

Useless 2008-12-17 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undisputed1 (Post 433191)
And I get bashed, lol. Who's the ass, yet again...

You are getting bashed for being an asshole. Before you decided to be a douche, everyone was merely disagreeing with your proposal.

Undisputed1 2008-12-17 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 433214)
You are getting bashed for being an asshole. Before you decided to be a douche, everyone was merely disagreeing with your proposal.

You use the word merely like the disagreements were suttle. Hey Useless. Eat a dick.

Nice board you got here Greenguy, and great community [sarcastically]

Undisputed1 2008-12-17 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior (Post 433213)
SHE is an established member of this community. .

You're extremely protective, lol, how's her cunt taste? Douche

SheepGuy 2008-12-17 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undisputed1 (Post 433217)
You're extremely protective, lol, how's her cunt taste? Douche

|yawn|
I was hoping for a good duel here, but you're just not up to it. Why not try GFY or some such, work on your skills a bit?
Come back when you're funny.

Undisputed1 2008-12-17 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheepGuy (Post 433218)
|yawn|
I was hoping for a good duel here, but you're just not up to it. Why not try GFY or some such, work on your skills a bit?
Come back when you're funny.

ok

Pagan 2008-12-17 10:05 PM

Number one, I read far more than I post, and I rarely post unless I have a point I want to make. The point I was attempting to make to you is that this method has been tried before and *possibly* worked for a few. I HATE sites that do nothing but run me in circles. Why would I ever want to build one, be a part of one, or even encourage one?. What you choose to do with your visitors is your business. There are a good number of newer webmasters here that are quite impressionable, and really don't need to be lead down your path.

You must also note that I called the idea of the circle jerks lame, not you or anyone else. If you don't know enough to feed your visitors what they want, perhaps you might fall into the category of being lame as well. NOTE THE OPERATIVE WORDS HERE. I underlined them and put them in bold just for you.

I really want to thank the gentlemen for stepping up to the plate here, but this one gets to be mine.

Where the fuck do you get off coming onto a board and absolutely cussing out anyone who even remotely disagrees with you? Do you really think you will win anyone to your viewpoint with your retarded method of marketing? All you have shown is your total lack of class and maturity.

*I* pointed out some logical objections to a circle jerk without calling you or anyone else names. You got personal with it, and you insulted others here. Pull your head out of your ass, if you can reach that far (and I sincerely doubt you can), wipe the shit out of your eyes, and read.....

You are one of the biggest, most ignorant, rude assholes I have ever run across. Now, take your ideas of building any circle jerk kingdoms and shove them back into your ass. Wait.. let me put my boots on and do it for you...

Now, shove that head of yours back up where it belongs. In short, you are totally dismissed, disgusting, and disrespected.

Douchebag and cunt, eh? Go Fuck Yourself...



Have a wonderful next life.. somewhere else!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undisputed1 (Post 433081)
A lame CJ? You're an idiot for several reasons. How do you know this has never worked for anyone? You don't b/c this has worked you douche, and this thread was not started to bash me or CJs. If you're not interested then FUCK OFF and keep the short sighted bullshit to yourself.


Undisputed1 2008-12-17 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pagan (Post 433220)
Number one, I read far more than I post, and I rarely post unless I have a point I want to make. The point I was attempting to make to you is that this method has been tried before and *possibly* worked for a few. I HATE sites that do nothing but run me in circles. Why would I ever want to build one, be a part of one, or even encourage one?. What you choose to do with your visitors is your business. There are a good number of newer webmasters here that are quite impressionable, and really don't need to be lead down your path.

You must also note that I called the idea of the circle jerks lame, not you or anyone else. If you don't know enough to feed your visitors what they want, perhaps you might fall into the category of being lame as well. NOTE THE OPERATIVE WORDS HERE. I underlined them and put them in bold just for you.

I really want to thank the gentlemen for stepping up to the plate here, but this one gets to be mine.

Where the fuck do you get off coming onto a board and absolutely cussing out anyone who even remotely disagrees with you? Do you really think you will win anyone to your viewpoint with your retarded method of marketing? All you have shown is your total lack of class and maturity.

*I* pointed out some logical objections to a circle jerk without calling you or anyone else names. You got personal with it, and you insulted others here. Pull your head out of your ass, if you can reach that far (and I sincerely doubt you can), wipe the shit out of your eyes, and read.....

You are one of the biggest, most ignorant, rude assholes I have ever run across. Now, take your ideas of building any circle jerk kingdoms and shove them back into your ass. Wait.. let me put my boots on and do it for you...

Now, shove that head of yours back up where it belongs. In short, you are totally dismissed, disgusting, and disrespected.

Douchebag and cunt, eh? Go Fuck Yourself...



Have a wonderful next life.. somewhere else!

You truly have no life. Go blog you stupid bitch. With that long ass paragraph.

papagmp 2008-12-17 11:20 PM

Wow - and I thought I was an asshole......

Member since 2005 and 36 posts - must have a whole lot to offer - LOL

WTG Pagan, Useless, Sheep and the rest - put one more stupid fucker in his place.

Undisputed1 2008-12-17 11:24 PM

ouch "stupid fucker" that hurt....right. Take some plastic explosive and run into a room with the rest of you queers and detonate it. Please, pretty please?

Useless 2008-12-18 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undisputed1 (Post 433227)
ouch "stupid fucker" that hurt....right. Take some plastic explosive and run into a room with the rest of you queers and detonate it. Please, pretty please?

What are you, a child? |catfight|

Bobc01 2008-12-18 06:52 AM

Certainly the most "Undisputed" arsehole of the year.

Run along Undesputed or i'll have to contact your parents and inform them what a disrupting little shit you are.

No doubt your teddy will be confiscated and you'll be banned from watching Teletubbies this week.

Simon 2008-12-18 07:01 AM

Undisputed ... I meant to stop by this thread earlier to suggest that since most people on this board don't do/haven't done CJ-style sites, it might be a really good idea for you to start a thread where you could pass along what you know about them and how/why they *do* work for certain things in particular ways. I thought that would have helped you get accepted on a board which is clearly focused on, well, whatever the opposite of Circle Jerking the surfer would be called.

I guess I was too late on this one though. I never understand why someone chooses to take a combative stance on a board, especially when being a bit apologetic can advance almost any cause so much more. And it's always a bad sign when the starter of a thread responds in this manner. It's your thread and your choice how you choose to respond to others here.

Too bad. Might have been at least interesting if this had gone another way, but this is just another stupid drama thread now. Would have been nice to have another useful board member with experience/knowledge about TGPs and CJ sites. We already have enough undisputed assholes around here already...you know what I mean?




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Pagan 2008-12-18 07:19 AM

You know, Simon, I have to agree. I had thought perhaps this poser was intelligent enough to put forth a good argument for his proposal. Outside of his initial post, there has been nothing of any value coming from him, not even a link that others could look at and see if he was just full of putrid hot air, or might actually have had a viable idea worth considering at any level. Any point that one of us has raised has been met with hatred, profanity, and total ignorance.

Now, why would anyone want to waste their time end effort with the likes of Undisputed? I know one thing that cannot be disputed - Circle Jerks mean angry surfers who go elsewhere and do NOT whip out their credit cards. You turn what might be customers into freeloading lookie-loos who just waste bandwidth.

Oh, and one more thing that has yet to be disproven - this has been one of the most Undisputedly sad threads we have had in a long time.

Greenguy 2008-12-18 09:09 AM

I changed the forum description for you :)

Undisputed1 2008-12-18 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 433275)
I changed the forum description for you :)

Greenguy, you're a bit late my friend. I posted a legitimate thread in the CORRECT forum. The lack of moderation is great here! Bashers stop acting like you care so much about the surfer. You don't give a damn and you know it. This is about making money period. The goal of any business is to make a profit. Ethics are secondary. Especially with the porn business. Where ethics is popular topic. And I repeat any TGP/MGP that sends 51% or more to trades is technically a CJ. Before you bash someone at least no what you're talking about. Also thanks to the knowledgeable people that contacted me via PM. Unlike the "caring" posters in this thread, and my head is up my ass. Talk about confused |crazy|...

MrMaryLou 2008-12-18 12:53 PM

Ohhh "Ethics are secondary" I am sure they will be lining up for trades now :)

Undisputed1 2008-12-18 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon (Post 433249)
Undisputed ... I meant to stop by this thread earlier to suggest that since most people on this board don't do/haven't done CJ-style sites, it might be a really good idea for you to start a thread where you could pass along what you know about them and how/why they *do* work for certain things in particular ways. I thought that would have helped you get accepted on a board which is clearly focused on, well, whatever the opposite of Circle Jerking the surfer would be called.

I guess I was too late on this one though. I never understand why someone chooses to take a combative stance on a board, especially when being a bit apologetic can advance almost any cause so much more. And it's always a bad sign when the starter of a thread responds in this manner. It's your thread and your choice how you choose to respond to others here.

Too bad. Might have been at least interesting if this had gone another way, but this is just another stupid drama thread now. Would have been nice to have another useful board member with experience/knowledge about TGPs and CJ sites. We already have enough undisputed assholes around here already...you know what I mean?




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You're absolutely correct. I took offense when "Pagan" called my proposal "lame". Which was completely uncalled for and if your not interested then just leave! Again that was unnecessary, and frankly I took it personally. Also she said something about caring about the newbie, and not leading them down the wrong path. Are you kidding me? Look at what you're saying. You don't give a damn about a newbie. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Undisputed1 2008-12-18 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaryLou (Post 433312)
Ohhh "Ethics are secondary" I am sure they will be lining up for trades now :)

I like that selective hearing. I was talking about in general, but you obviously didn't get that....


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