Member Ramster - Negged on our deal...
 

This is just a heads up...

Ramster agreed to buy 5 domains off me and then when it came time to pay up it was excuse after excuse as to why he couldn't.

I tried very hard to work things out with him, even dropped the price but still nothing...

It really sucks as this was my first post/deal here at GG&J, not a great start I must say.

Mike

PS : " Life is good " |bullshit|

Hahaha, nice post.

Did I reneg on our deal? Yes. I decided to buy some domains off you and then I did not. I'm certain I said sorry to you every time you messaged me to complain about me not buying them and for the last time I'll say it again.... sorry.

Now move on Mike, shit happens. I backed out of $300 of domain buying, not a huge deal. Stop harping over this.

Dude, if you pulled this shit on another forum I'm a member of you would be banned, I guess some people/forums just dont care if members go around screwing people over.

Sorry doesnt work, your not a 13-16 year old kid who just broke a window...

Mike

I don't understand the issue here.

Ramster thought of buying some domains and then changed his mind. This happens all the time on deals.

Move on and sell your domains to someone else.

So if 2 people agree on a deal and 1 person backs out, the forum bans that person for life? Ummm... ok. Dude I didn't steal from you, I changed my mind on buying some domains. Am I an asshole for doing so, sure I can live with that. But forums don't ban people for not closing a deal they agree on, jeesh.

I'm not sure why you're taking it so personal Mike.

I'm done posting in this thread.

It wasnt a thought, we had a sales agreement... either way, you honestly think this is ok, to go around and make deals with people and then turn around and stiff them?

This wasnt a one day type deal, it went on for like 2 weeks... during these 2 weeks he continued to say he wanted to buy the names, just needed time to get the $, thus I believed him and waited.

Im sure I wont get much support here as Im a newbie and Ramster is an old timer but thats ok because I KNOW I am in the right and he is in the wrong.

Mike

EDIT : Reputable Forums ban people daily for such things, some people take their sites seriously and dont want this type of stuff going on, then again this is an adult industry forum and we all know where the adult industry online is going... down the TUBES.

I don't see the issue here. You were in the middle of negotiating a deal, no one signed any paperwork. This is why we have contracts, so things like this don't happen... but even if there was a contract ramster was only in the process of signing the deal, he never even picked up the pen.

Welcome to the business world Tippy.

The deal was done, we both agreed on the price, the only thing left was for Ramster to honor his word/PM and send payment... which he said he would do over and over in his many PMs to me.

Ive been selling domains since 2003, sold over 1000 names, I know the biz, I also know whats right and wrong. The PMs Ive received is the contract, signed by Ramster himself.

I dont wish to start posting PMs but if thats what it takes for you people to understand then so be it.

I have nothing to hide...

Mike

Okay one LAST post on this matter.

Read again, I never said I was right... not ONCE. In fact in the FIRST POST I said I backed out and I said sorry about it. I backed out of the deal, end of story.

Next time you bash my forum, I'm banning you.

lol and you say that with such pride...

Umm yeah , other than maybe causing you a week or so of grief I dont honestly think ANY forum reputable or otherwise would ban anyone for not making a deal.. if that were the case than I can start slinging some names for alot more than $300.

The point is, you had domains, Ram thought he'd want them, then decided he didn't. He has apologized and explained why. Case closed. If the domains are good ones than I'm sure you can get another buyer or buyers.

Its pretty sad that you live in a world where sorry doesnt work.

Oh but its ok to scam/screw people over, hmm... ok please ban me, I certainly don't want any part of this community |waves|

|attention Listen Tippy, there is a huge difference between scamming and just breaking a deal. I'd watch what you say and how you say it. Ramster didnt scam you out of anything. You still are the righteous owner of the domains. If you transferred the names to him and he refused to pay, then that would be a scam

You'll have to try much, much harder to harm the good name of Ramster.

I figured Ramster would have a following, he should considering hes been a member here since 2003. Im just stating the facts thats all, you people will obviously decide for yourselves but to say its nothing to break a deal is crazy. If your word aint with anything then how can you be.

Morals people, morals...

Main Entry: scam
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: swindle
Synonyms:

blackmail, cheating, con, con game, crooked deal, deceit, deception, dirty pool, double-cross, double-dealing, extortion, fast one, flimflam, fraud, hoax, hosing, hustle, racket, rip-off, shady deal, shakedown, sham, shell game, snow job, sting, sucker game

Can you add "cry baby" to your list?

Negged on the deal. Okay I can see that.
You still have the domains. He didn't scam you or screw you of anything.

Love is in the air.......

Which Ramster did none of the above -

|attention YOU STILL HAVE THE FUCKING DOMAINS. YOU ARE OUT NOTHING, ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA. He backed out of the deal...thats it. |banghead|

IMO, both of you should settle this dispute, with Ramster paying a nominal fee. It's common practice for companies who prematurely terminate a contract to compensate the counterparty, which has suffered as a result, by paying them a small fee of 10-20%. Think along the lines of cell phone companies who charge early termination fees.

You had a signed contract stating that Ramster irrevocably was going to buy those domains?

If not, quit bitching and move on.

The only response so far that makes any sense... to be honest this is what I thought Ramster would have offered to do but he didnt considering he led me to believe for days that he was buying the names.

And yes, I have a digitally signed PM Contract mentioning time and time again that he wanted to buy the names... I guess it all comes down to the old saying... " dont spend what you dont have "

When someone tells you payment will be sent on such and such day well you kinda plan on that $ coming in. Well when I woke to another bs story about not having the funds it does kinda fuck things up eh.

I had another party interested in 2 of the names @ $150, I lost that sale because the names where sold to Ramster or at least I thought and was led to believe.

NY Jester... " He backed out of the deal...thats it. " you might want to look up some of those synonyms I posted as a few of them describe this transaction very well. Dont know how you can say I'm out nothing, sure $300 isnt huge but it certainly aint nothin now is it.

I think I have said all that needs to be said on this issue.

Mike

Okay this is getting ridicules. You're stilling fucking crying about this??????????

First off I am not defending that I backed out of the deal, I did. Shit happens, move the fuck along. You sold some of if not all of the domains since.

Second.

YOU SOLD THOSE 2 DOMAINS!! You told me that at the end of the month when I was offering to now buy them. Since you sold them I decided not to buy the other 3 domains, the package deal was no longer there and as I told you those 2 domains were the main 2 I wanted to buy. Which is why I matched the offer of the "other" guy that offered $150 for them. If there really was some "other" guy you could have went back to him a few days later when I backed out and sold them to him. Which I assume you eventually did since you don't own the domains anymore.

I doubt that. Mike, you seem to be doing a LOT of whining over $300 worth of domains that most of you FUCKING SOLD ANYWAY

Stop calling me a scammer! I never stole the fucking thing from you!! I told you I'd buy some domains from you then I didn't buy them. I said sorry already, I apologized already and I do (did) feel bad about the whole deal. I backed out of the deal for my own personal reasons. That's it, end of story.

Now fuck off.

If you continue to talk bs I will not fuck off... I didnt lie, I told you the other guy was pissed that you got those names and didnt want anything to do with them after the fact, yes I sold them as you instructed me to do so, I lost $75 on those names...

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Amount received:
$75.00 USD
Fee amount:
-$2.48 USD
Net amount:
$72.52 USD

Date:
Aug. 23, 2009
Time:
09:15:27 PDT
Status:
Completed

Subject:
sologf.com sologfs.com
Note:
Payment for transfer of domains sologf.com and sologfs.com

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You never once mentioned you would only buy all the names IF and only IF all where available untill your last PM... your first PM included offers for EACH name, $50 each remember...

If $300 is no big deal then why didnt you send payment... it was obviously a big deal to you at the time.

Mike

After reading this thread I would never do business with Tippy.

i concur. |crazy|

+2

If $75 is that fucking big of a deal, there's far more serious issues to be dealt with.

People, its not all about the $, its about honoring ones word and handling yourself in a professional manner when problems arise, I guess some of you will never understand.

Ignoring someones PMs for days is far from professional, telling people that the money will be sent today or tomorrow at the latest and not following through is unprofessional... lying is unprofessional...

To be honest I wouldnt want to deal with either of you knowing that you feel its ok/cool to neg on deals and screw people over.

Mike

Geeez............
 

And I thought women were full of drama!

:)

Over $300?? Really???

Mike,

Deals fall through all the time for many reasons. You read about them in the financial section of the newspaper, and those deals are for millions and even billions of dollars. It happens, they deal with it, and move on. You should do the same.

The time you've wasted posting in this thread is worth more than the $300 you're whining about.

Well I'm ready to move on if everyone else will, I'm honestly not enjoying this myself, I'm not one to hold a grudge and I certainly dont like outing people in a public forum.

At the time the sale was made I really needed this money and was counting on it, when Ramster didnt come through for me as he more or less promised well I was in trouble, to be honest Im just getting out if it now. I spent more $ then I should have thinking this sale would make up for it.

I had timed the sale of these names so the funds would be there when I knew I would be needing them, for my daughters 5th B-Day party, my daughter means the world to me and I knew I wouldnt be able to do what I wanted to without this $, my bad I guess in a way for putting so much faith in someone else, shit happens eh but I wasnt prepared for it.

I used part of the rent $ instead which put me in another boat with my landlord, luckly hes a good guy and understood the situation I was in.

I wish this never happened as I honestly believe Ramster is a good guy, my anger at the time might have gotten the best of me but considering the situation I was put in I think its understandable.

Mike

Business is business, and a deal is not a deal until the transaction is COMPLETE
Tippy through all this you are the one that has come out as totally unprofessional, and the one that has made a very bad impression on the board.

Was Ramster wrong in this? Perhaps a little in which a tentative agreement was made but the deal was never consumated. Ramster did apologise for that which was very nice of him...but again business is business.

You move on, not call someone out in the first place and definately not keep harping on the fact...the deal fell through...so what

If that is how you do business, I can tell you honestly I like Cleo, do not want to deal with you on a business deal...very unprofessional.

Hell in my main stream enterprise part of what I do is market

I have spent many an hour with a potential client trying to close a deal...if I close it for say 5k I get 1k commision

Now we have several marketing companies also pushing us, but when they close a 5k deal, we get about 1700 out of that of which I make 10% or $170

So I close the deal after hrs of work I get $1000, the lead I am working with back and forth likes what I told him and is interested but the marketer happens to call him and the guy gives his CC to them as he is "sold" I get $170....boy does that suck....but business is business and I move on.

My opinion Tippy, is if you plan on doing business on this board it will take a long time to overcome the first impression you have given us....best thing you can do is not ever respond to this thread again

While this may be a small transaction for most of you, I consider both parties agreeing to a transaction as a deal. One should honor their word and their commitment regardless of the transaction size. If the positions were reversed, Ramster would be right to fault Tippy for breaking the deal.

Renegs suck. I used to work as a Wall Street stockbroker. When someone gave an order to buy stock, they gave a commitment to pay. Some douchebags would only pay if the stock went up and would reneg if it went down. The broker would have to eat the losses. Now, how many of you would do the right thing and pay for a stock that went down? Or would all of you reneg and say fuck the broker, business is business?