AVN has lost touch with reality
 

They posted prices for their August show.
http://www.avnshow.com/attend-avn-industry-show.html

Yeah they lost it along time ago :(

The show last year was a joke with a very small turnout.

I really expected much lower badge prices this year but I see that I was very wrong.

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...1&d=1273183131

Holy crap.

Whales only i guess.

So if someone decides last minute to go (which I'm sure many people do, I've done it before) the badge costs $450? Yeah right!!

Since there are two of us that would be $900 bucks just to walk in the door. |shocking|

Am I reading this right you only get the "Complementary Swag Bag" when you book a room.

I have gone to Internext every year since I live close by but I am going to try and get a badge from a sponsor this year.

I always book last minute since InterNext Florida is during hurricane season and badges are non-refundable. Last year's walk-in badge was $300 and the turnout was dreadful. I think the Diplomat only booked half the rooms last year. The opening night party last year was a joke. It was in a tiny first floor restaurant and cash bar. WTF is AVN thinking?

I think avn is thinking just having webmasters there isn't enough to make it work anymore. So it's just one big group of porn people gathering. They are hoping the video, etc. side of things will keep this trade show going for them at that location and time of year.

They had the 2010 AVN awards on I think it was Showtime last night. I guess if you can find a camera get your mugg and URL in front of it if at all possible maybe you could recoup those outrageous prices

Oh my... the world crisis or something... those prices are only for huge wallets.

Other than the company running it, what does the AVN Awards in Las Vegas in January have to do with the AVN Show in Florida in August ?

I guess it going to be empty this year.

Nothing really. As you said AVN operates both shows but the awards are for the video porn industry and the show in Florida is for the internet industry.

It does look like AVN is trying to attract the video industry to the Florida show but I'll bet porn people from LA are not going to fly across to Florida for a show like this.

While this has historically been one of the best shows for us, we stopped going to it and every other show a couple years back. The ROI of going to almost every show just hasn't been there for quite some time.

The idea of going to another show just to be bombarded by affiliate managers trying to get traffic from you with promises of reciprocal traffic that they never intend to fulfill at this point just nauseates me.

But I have to admit that I did love going to that show back in the day and thought it was one of the best for business in its heydey.

WOW! Even Far-L has stopped drinking the AVN Kool-Aid :D

We are going since it's local. Hope some of you do decide to go... Cleo!

Apart from this show we don't go to any of the other shows as mentioned above as they don't have much ROI.

My..Those prices are too much. There are lots of competition out there and they are using that kind of strategy? High price? Where's their practicality? :(

Afternoon everyone!
I just saw this thread and wanted to comment. As most of you may not know the AVN Show is completely new and unique and unlike any other event. The summer show is no longer JUST Internext, and this may be where the confusion lies. The entire event has been created from the ground up with a heavy focus on the demands being presented today. We will have over 30 unique educational, workshop, and networking events. Not to mention that we will have two incredible keynote presentations. Both the attendee list and participant list is unlike any other event anywhere!
If you do business in the adult industry (on or offline), you really shouldn’t even consider not participating. There are so many opportunities that exist and if you work the show properly, the admission price is negligible.
Please just note that the price is really only $250, which is far less than most other events of this kind. You can do the entire weekend, including flight, hotel, and badge for right around $1,000, if you book early. You shouldn’t have any problem getting a tremendous return on this investment!
Feel free to email me or AIM me at MeganAVN. I’m happy to answer any questions any of you may have!
See you at the show! ;)

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A. what other events charge more than $250? Phoenix Forum? No. XBix? No. Cybernet Expo? No. $250 is not "far less than most other events"

B. You cannot do the show for under $1000. Your very own hotel and badge discount is $830 then you add the taxes and resort fees and you're at $1000 before the cost of a flight (another $200-400 or more from Canada) and before your food costs (which at that hotel are grossly expensive).

When I use to go to this show I'd spend $2000 minimum every time!

As Megan pointed out - this show isn't about the internet anymore.

Our business is B2B Internet only We don't work with consumers or anyone who works offline but now this show's attendance has a less targeted attendee list... that makes the increased price even more expensive because it means we'll me less of the people we want to do business with.

I still wish AVN the best of luck and who knows, we might go, but from a cost analysis perspective - making it more expensive to meet less of our target audience - this move reduces the value of the show for a B2B based business like ours.

Yeah, when they started watering it down to the point of being just colored water I just couldn't swallow it any longer...

Megan,

Welcome to GG&J.

I agree with AdultLabsPromo that expanding the AVN Show with more people doesn't necessarily make the venue better. IMO, the original Internext was a better format for online adult businesses to learn, network and conduct business.

I understand the need for AVN to fill rooms at the Diplomat to keep the venue exclusive, but broadening the base of attendees with those who aren't primarily in the online space isn't the right way to go. Rather than driving up badge fees year after year, AVN should take a cue from Affiliate Convention, where sponsored affiliates pay nothing to attend. Just ask your former colleague Chris Lebrun about it. With lower badge fees, you'll get a larger and more targeted audience. Your sponsors and the Diplomat would both be thrilled with the results.

In all likelihood, I'm skipping this year's AVN Show to hear about the event from those that attended. If the feedback is positive, I might be back for the 2011 show. If not, there are plenty of other adult webmaster shows to attend.

My guess it will do decent. They couldn't continue with it as internext because last year it showed that it wasn't worth the $. So now they have this. It's them trying something new. My guess is it for sure will be better than what happened last year for internext, so it will be seen as a step in the right direction in their eyes as more $ will have come in. The big test will be the year after this one. Where if people didn't see an ROI to make it worth it.

I only live 8 miles away but don't plan on going as I just don't see any reason to go with these prices.

Last year I won a ticket so I only had to buy one ticket at the door which was $300. So we ended up spending around $500 all together for last year's show, drove home each day, that was almost deserted and basically turned into a couple of relaxing days at what is a very nice resort but business wise it was pretty much worthless.

Last year I waited until the last minute before deciding to go but this year that would mean paying $900 for the two of us to walk through the door for a show that has become irrelevant to my business.

Until they can move away from that venue the costs will not go down. The location, and their contract with the hotel, are the primary factors behind the pricing.

Megan's response just reinforces the point that AVN has completely lost touch with the realities of the online industry, not that they've ever really has a clue in that regard anyway.

Hopefully I'll see some of you at Cybernet Expo in San Francisco, 'cuz I won't be going to Florida in August.

I'd comment, but I think I said all my thoughts on this YEARS ago.

Someone who's new to the board needs to do a couple of searches & read thru some old threads :D

I'll look for you there..

Cybernet is far more intimate and is very good for doing biz, last years show paid divdends for me...

Since I'm at XBiz, I thought I'd do a little price comparison:

AVN: $250 Early Registration, $350 Late Registration, $450 Day Of Event
XBiz: $100 Early Registration, $200 Late Registration, $250 Day Of Event

Wheres Evil Chris to make some sense of all of this?

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It sounds like the number of early registrations for AVNShow are low are they're getting desperate.

You're going to get in trouble... :D

Maybe by the time the show starts they will be giving out free tickets so that the hotel can sell food and drinks. :D

Right after the Devil rides in on a polar bear and pays for everyone...

Now that would make the show worth the prices that they are charging. |thumb

I felt like I got shafted during the Jan show. Our whole team went and we bought 5 tickets.

I was to meet a few new affiliates inside the Traffic Dinner. I wasnt allowed inside WTF..

Imagine being an affiliate manager and calling your affiliate who is already inside the suite. Then telling that person I'm not allowed in. Friggin embarrassing to say the least.

So the team wanted to go to Florida this year. I said no.

Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice hell no.

I thought the Las Vegas show seemed pretty dead.