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Dr Bizzaro 2004-03-18 07:37 AM

My Free Site was rejected for the most foolish reason....
 
So I just hooked up with a partner to start creating and submitting Free sites again. (As most of you LL owners that have been getting my submissions know from this past week.)

I am extremely happy with the designs of the free sites, as well as the galleries. All very clean and nice looking. Obviously time was put in to make them look good. Not just the slapped together crap I see daily.

So yesterday I submitted this free site:
http://www.unclenasty.com/fs/pussy-p...ians/index.htm

Very clean, great looking free site in my opinion.
Followed everyone's rules. Warning page, recips, One enter, 2 galleries, 10 pictures per gallery, blah, blah, blah....

Then I get a rejection email from a LL that says:

"Your link has been rejected for one of the following reasons:
Not with the hidden links on the root - I know it's for the SE's
but I won't link it! Sorry!"

The root, http://www.unclenasty.com , is just a HUB I dump links onto. It links to a bunch of FPA's, sites I own, Galleries I've made and a bunch of other crap. I don't link to it from anywhere from my free sites or galleries at all! Hell, I don't even link to it from any of my main sites that I own.
Yet, my free site was rejected because this LL owner didn't like some of the links on it.

WTF? I could understand if I fucked something up, or if they didn't like the content, ads, sponsors, wording or design of the free site. But rejecting it based on the un-linked root????

People can run their sites how ever they want, but damn if that's not the most ridicules reason I was ever given.

I might just print that out and hang it on my wall.

Any other LLs that I submit to do this too? I can pull your recip off and stop submitting to you as well.

stuveltje 2004-03-18 07:56 AM

what i have notice is that alot of new people starting linksites and they dont know the rules themselfs how it all works........i have to say its funny.....i would print it and frame it yes.lol

caringneo 2004-03-18 07:58 AM

Hi,
I am not a big guy to give an advice. So IMHO, normally no LL owners will reject you for that reason. I use to put a small h5 link to the rootsite, at the bottom of my index page on my free sites and got listed all major linklists. They all accepts it as long as its not a big misleading link.
But another thing I saw in the site which you posted, the image link (sorry that image is not loading for me) at the bottom which is just above "You'll find a lot more like this over at Lesbian Cheaters!" is giving me the same page again and again. Every time I click on it I get one more main/..... on the url and gives me the smae page. Something like this,
http://unclenasty.com/fs/pussy-probi...ain/index.html

Don't know, why it happens. |sad|

Neo

Greenguy 2004-03-18 07:58 AM

Like I told you yesterday on ICQ, that's fucked up :(

Linkster 2004-03-18 07:58 AM

DrB - I guess the rule that most of us follow is what you do on your hub pages is your biz :) I dont care if ya pop a dozen dialer consoles - :)
Doesnt make sense since the LL wouldnt be linking to that page anyway so it really doesnt affect them
I have mixed feelings about using the links that way as I have used them on a lot of sites and both Google and now Yahoo especially really like them - as long as you stay beyond their radar for hand edits which isn't likely on little free sites. The only penalty Ive seen that came close was using same color backgrounds and text links :)

DangerDave 2004-03-18 08:07 AM

Excuse me....

There is only room for one Nazi around here... |lightsabe

DD

Cleo 2004-03-18 09:16 AM

That is fucked up. I could care less what you do with the root of your domain anymore then what I care what you do with your toenails or other private parts.

plateman 2004-03-18 09:19 AM

LOL on what cleo said, she comes up with some funny one's

ChristyB 2004-03-18 10:12 AM

Very occasionally I look beyond the free site I'm reviewing and then only if I'm suspicious about possible cp...
eg: If I get teen sites with "young" all over them (particularly from non-English webmasters) I often check the domain root to see if it's full of cp terminology and then I'll blacklist the domain...

Otherwise - what Linkster, GG and Cleo said - your sites are your biz :)

Fonz 2004-03-18 10:26 AM

there are some strange people online these days ...

little question.. did you didn't link that big ad on your mainpage on purpose or did I just found something you forgot to do? |couch|

Dr Bizzaro 2004-03-18 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fonz
there are some strange people online these days ...

little question.. did you didn't link that big ad on your mainpage on purpose or did I just found something you forgot to do? |couch|

That was just an oversight.

MrMaryLou 2004-03-18 10:33 AM

Dr look at it this way its there loss :)

Greg_al 2004-03-18 10:38 AM

Seems like your site don't have warning text ... |confused| :(

Cleo 2004-03-18 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greg_al
Seems like your site don't have warning text ... |confused| :(
I put that on sites that I build, but I think it is silly and don't care if it is on sites submitted to me.

Dr Bizzaro 2004-03-18 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greg_al
Seems like your site don't have warning text ... |confused| :(
See, now that would be a good reason not to list it. Totally understandable.
(An oversight that will be added back in in the next and all future galleries. Thanks for pointing that out.)

jennym 2004-03-18 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
I put that on sites that I build, but I think it is silly and don't care if it is on sites submitted to me.
I agree. I put that on all sites I build too, but won't decline a site without it. If they are already at my site, checking out the free sites...they KNOW what they are getting!

Dr. B - that is one wacked ass reason for a decline!|doh|

Cleo 2004-03-18 11:33 AM

I love sites from Dr Bizzaro, I know he follows all my rules even the one about having to be naked with a butt plug inserted while submitting.




|couch|

stuveltje 2004-03-18 11:55 AM

I have accepted Dr Bizarro's sites at premium i think they are nice and i am not gonna check root domains, i dont care about those, if i have to check those also , maybe i should check what they have on 404 and other??? nop the url wich is submitted that one i check and i dont care whats further on that domain.

caringneo 2004-03-18 11:57 AM

Quote:

I love sites from Dr Bizzaro, I know he follows all my rules even the one about having to be naked with a butt plug inserted while submitting.
LAMO! |jackinthe
I didn't do that when I submitted my site to Cleo, two days back. Is that the reason I got declined? LOL!

Neo

Ramster 2004-03-18 01:08 PM

If his site rules are 3 links per page then you are not breaking the rules whether you use the 3rd link for a sponsor or your hub what does he care? Apparently he/she does. |badidea|

And everyone who builds free sites always links to a hub or FPA leading to a hub of some sort. At least they should if they're not.

doublep 2004-03-18 01:12 PM

Re: My Free Site was rejected for the most foolish reason....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Dr Bizzaro
So I just hooked up with a partner to start creating and submitting Free sites again. (As most of you LL owners that have been getting my submissions know from this past week.)

I am extremely happy with the designs of the free sites, as well as the galleries. All very clean and nice looking. Obviously time was put in to make them look good. Not just the slapped together crap I see daily.

So yesterday I submitted this free site:
http://www.unclenasty.com/fs/pussy-p...ians/index.htm

Very clean, great looking free site in my opinion.
Followed everyone's rules. Warning page, recips, One enter, 2 galleries, 10 pictures per gallery, blah, blah, blah....

Then I get a rejection email from a LL that says:

"Your link has been rejected for one of the following reasons:
Not with the hidden links on the root - I know it's for the SE's
but I won't link it! Sorry!"

The root, http://www.unclenasty.com , is just a HUB I dump links onto. It links to a bunch of FPA's, sites I own, Galleries I've made and a bunch of other crap. I don't link to it from anywhere from my free sites or galleries at all! Hell, I don't even link to it from any of my main sites that I own.
Yet, my free site was rejected because this LL owner didn't like some of the links on it.

WTF? I could understand if I fucked something up, or if they didn't like the content, ads, sponsors, wording or design of the free site. But rejecting it based on the un-linked root????

People can run their sites how ever they want, but damn if that's not the most ridicules reason I was ever given.

I might just print that out and hang it on my wall.

Any other LLs that I submit to do this too? I can pull your recip off and stop submitting to you as well.

Hey Dr B - you have further mail from me clarifing my position on this matter.

Cheers.

Paul.

doublep 2004-03-18 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DangerDave
Excuse me....

There is only room for one Nazi around here... |lightsabe

DD

Make way for Uber nazi Dave - I do the accent fucking great too!

:D

doublep 2004-03-18 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stuveltje
what i have notice is that alot of new people starting linksites and they dont know the rules themselfs how it all works........i have to say its funny.....i would print it and frame it yes.lol
Ingrid - my site has been turning SE traffic into cash for a while now - I intend it to carry on doing so for a long time to come.

:)

Opti 2004-03-18 01:35 PM

I guess its a case of you getting to run your sites how you like and the linksite owner getting to run his linksite the way he likes...

Havent you got better things to do than whine like a baby about it? You have been on ICQ and making board posts over 1 rejection.... Welcome to the world of freesites NEWB

I am SURE Paul believes his reason is valid... becasue he isnt a NAZI and he isnt a NEWB

You should show more respect Dr. B..... you are n o more special than anyone else... If Mondo thinks you have that site on a domain Google might ban I can TOTALLY understand his position of not wanting to link it...

Dr Bizzaro 2004-03-18 01:40 PM

Re: Re: My Free Site was rejected for the most foolish reason....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by doublep
Hey Dr B - you have further mail from me clarifing my position on this matter.
Cheers.

Paul.

I received it, but I see no need for you to explain it any further.

As I said, it's your site and you have the right to link and not link what ever sites you deem fit.

I was merely sharing the info with other LL owners to get some feedback. (Thus the reason I didn't mention your name or your site.)

stuveltje 2004-03-18 01:41 PM

Hya Paul|waves| i agree all have to do want they want for their sites , me myself i dont check rootdomains........for real i have hubs on root domains i see linksites ask wich url need to be linked and wich url have their link back further i wont check, if i get 404 accedently and it has bad things on them i will reject, but i dont check ......first its not telling at the rules that your root and all have to be by the rules of the linksites too and second it will take me daysssssssssssssssssssss to check all that stuff from sites submitted. And we all know pornsurfers look further.......thats a benefit for the ones who make sites and take advantage of it, just my 2 cents

Dr Bizzaro 2004-03-18 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Opti
I guess its a case of you getting to run your sites how you like and the linksite owner getting to run his linksite the way he likes...

Havent you got better things to do than whine like a baby about it? You have been on ICQ and making board posts over 1 rejection.... Welcome to the world of freesites NEWB

I am SURE Paul believes his reason is valid... becasue he isnt a NAZI and he isnt a NEWB

You should show more respect Dr. B..... you are n o more special than anyone else... If Mondo thinks you have that site on a domain Google might ban I can TOTALLY understand his position of not wanting to link it...

First of all, I was opening a discussion with other webmasters on a webmaster board about something that happened to me, to see how other LL owners felt about this. I did happen to show some respect, unlike you, by not post his name or his site or calling him names. What had happened was the point, not who had done it.

I did not call him a Nazi, so make sure your quoting the right people before putting words in my mouth.

Oh, ouch, you called me a NEWB. And in all caps to boot. That really cuts like a knife.

Go back to the schoolyard where you obviously belong.

Opti 2004-03-18 01:52 PM

Bullshit Dr. B.

You have been whining about Paul on ICQ..

This thread was an attack and a WHINGE.

You have a bunch of links all over the root of your domain that the same people that are posting support of you in this thread would probably agree are a reason Google might ban a domain...

Ive seen people like this boards SE expert post that we should report webmasters to google for using that same tactic.

Is this really so hard a reason for you to understand? maybe you dont get the whole linklist game yet..

stuveltje 2004-03-18 01:58 PM

Quote:

You have a bunch of links all over the root of your domain that the same people that are posting support of you in this thread would probably agree are a reason Google might ban a domain...
I dont see a reason dont get me wrong, but what is so bad about the root, i cant see it and call me stupid i dont care, he submitted a free site and not his root.

Opti 2004-03-18 02:03 PM

I don't check domain roots either...

thats not the point..

Dr. B. wants to call someone an idiot for 1 rejection... which he got a detailed explanation about by the looks...

Anyone here that has dealt with Mondo knows he isnt a nazi or unreasonable or even ever rude.... and deserves a little more respect than he has been shown today.

doublep 2004-03-18 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr Bizzaro
First of all, I was opening a discussion with other webmasters on a webmaster board about something that happened to me, to see how other LL owners felt about this. I did happen to show some respect, unlike you, by not post his name or his site or calling him names. What had happened was the point, not who had done it.
You read my last mail - cool! Makes sense? to me it is obvious - throw it up for discussion if you like - there are a few knowlegable SE folk here.

Cheers

Paul

stuveltje 2004-03-18 02:21 PM

I know paul and i respect all he does he has his reason for it, he is not a newbie..........

Dr Bizzaro 2004-03-18 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Opti
Bullshit Dr. B.

You have been whining about Paul on ICQ..

This thread was an attack and a WHINGE.

You have a bunch of links all over the root of your domain that the same people that are posting support of you in this thread would probably agree are a reason Google might ban a domain...

Ive seen people like this boards SE expert post that we should report webmasters to google for using that same tactic.

Is this really so hard a reason for you to understand? maybe you dont get the whole linklist game yet..

Ummm...no I haven't been whining on ICQ about anything. 1 webmaster (who I won't be chatting to again anytime soon, obviously you all like to chat like little girls on the playground.) asked me about the post and I was explaining to them about it. I didn't mention the site till they brought it up. So, you obviously have no clue as to what your talking about.

Yes, I do have a bunch of links all over the domain. A domain that just sits there and does nothing. I dump galleries, FPA and what ever links I have on there.

I don't rely on 100% SE traffic to make money on my sites, I just started fucking with them to see what works and I am trying things that were suggested me from various people and various sites. Trial and error is what it's all about.

If your entire business is revolving around SE traffic only, that's called putting all your eggs into one basket and that's just bad business in my opinion.

Obviously you came into this thread to either kiss Pauls ass, try to belittle me, or just start a fight. What ever your reason, I can care less, good for you. You sure have impressed every one here.
I came to the board to discuss something with other Adult Webmasters. Both of which terms I question about you.
I didn't disrespect Paul or his site. I didn't mention a site or a name and brought it up for discussion with other LL owners to see if anyone else felt this way.

Paul explained in an email (which he certainly didn't have to) why he did what he did and I told him in an email exactly what I said here, it's his site and he could do what he wanted. I respect that he does what he wants with his site. I've ran my own the same way for the last 7 years.

But I am not going to waste time submitting to 100 sites if they all adhere to that same rule, nor am I going to change 100 pages on a site I own, if only 1 webmaster feels this way. I was looking for some feedback from people I submit to.

doublep 2004-03-18 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stuveltje
Hya Paul|waves| i agree all have to do want they want for their sites , me myself i dont check rootdomains........for real i have hubs on root domains i see linksites ask wich url need to be linked and wich url have their link back further i wont check, if i get 404 accedently and it has bad things on them i will reject, but i dont check ......first its not telling at the rules that your root and all have to be by the rules of the linksites too and second it will take me daysssssssssssssssssssss to check all that stuff from sites submitted. And we all know pornsurfers look further.......thats a benefit for the ones who make sites and take advantage of it, just my 2 cents
Ingrid - on the subject of checking root domains - if I know the webmaster well, I don't - but like all linksite owners I start getting subs from webmasters I don't know from adam..... the majority are good hardworking webmasters - but within that group there are dickheads - sad, but a fact of life (and I'm not calling DrB a dickhead - for the record) so I like to sniff around their stuff - see how they do things - that's all - yeah.. I have to spend a little extra time on this - but it pays off. And it don't hold back listings either.... most webmasters who sub to me have their site listed in within 4 hours tops here - every day of the week.

:)

Ramster 2004-03-18 02:25 PM

Your wrong Opti !

DrBizzaro NEVER mentioned the site, the site owner or referred to it in any way at all so he was not disrespecting anyone.

He thought it was an odd reject reason and brought it up for discussion without mentioning the site. I can see you getting pissed had he said that asshole at Mondo did this.

But he didn't say what site it was. Plus we all know Paul is not an asshole anyway. :)

stuveltje 2004-03-18 02:34 PM

Thanks Paul for explaining, but i review 6 linksites and checking them all it takes to many time for me, like i said i respect al webmasters for how they run their sites, you have your own reason to not listen some submitted sites, for me its i liked the sites wich Dr bizarro made all b the rules of the LL and i have list them at premium, for me i dont see a problem on the root but thats my view. Its good to have different views. if all people are the same the wold would be dull!!!!

Opti 2004-03-18 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ramster
Your wrong Opti !

DrBizzaro NEVER mentioned the site, the site owner or referred to it in any way at all so he was not disrespecting anyone.

He thought it was an odd reject reason and brought it up for discussion without mentioning the site. I can see you getting pissed had he said that asshole at Mondo did this.

But he didn't say what site it was. Plus we all know Paul is not an asshole anyway. :)

And how would YOU know Im wrong Ramster? (no disrespect intended)


And Dr B.... is this the person you wont be talking to?

Quote:

Like I told you yesterday on ICQ, that's fucked up

As for the reason you started this thread... to get opinions!??

You had an Ego explosion... you bad mouthed Paul to GG and others then you went on with it withn this thread.. which was about trashing the linksite owners decision with just your side of the story.... your response to his offer to explain his reason more fully was .......

Quote:

I see no need for you to explain it any further.

And as for the reason I posted.... it was because you were being an asshole and it was affecting my friend.

|waves|

Dr Bizzaro 2004-03-18 02:53 PM

I'm not going to argue with someone who just wants to fight, call me names, try's to label me and puts words in my mouth.
Next time you should try some constructive criticism, instead of trying to start a pissing match you have nothing to do with.
This isn't the schoolyard.

Paul, I just emailed you back. Thanks again for explaining your position. Perhaps I'll take your advice into consideration and make some changes to the root and start submitting again.

AcidMaX 2004-03-18 03:01 PM

Dont forget to submit to my sites man :)


Andy

Greenguy 2004-03-18 03:07 PM

You know what I think? I think you're all fucked in the head? We're 15 miles from the fucking Fun Park & you wanna go home!

Ok - my take on all this...

DrB does ask me questions about free sites from time to time, seeing as I run a link list & he is my friend. Every now & then he asks me a "Is this a standard practice....?" kinda question & yesterday was one of those times. I've never heard of a free site being rejected for pages on the domain that are not even linked to from the free site itself. Seems kinda strange & odd to me & I told DrB that - actually, my exact quote from ICQ was "that's really strange & not a normal practice that I've ever heard of"

It also didn't click in my head at the time that Mondo Erotica was doublep (of course, once I saw the avatar, I remembered - LOL)

I do think it is a strange rule - and this is coming from the guy that co-wrote most of the strange rules that webmasters read on a lot of link lists to this day :)

But, I am also a firm believer of "My Site, My Rules" policy & would never hold that against anyone.


Opti - you were a bit out of line - for one thing, the only mention of the word "Nazi" was by our very own Nazi, DangerDave - and I know this was in jest, along the lines of "no one should have rules tougher then mine" For another, DrB did what I would have done had I submitted & been declined for that reason, he asked a question - on a board that is set up for asking questions exactly like the one he posted.


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