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xxxjay 2004-03-23 02:58 PM

Is tranny gay?
 
I've been updating my bannerserver and I am a little confused.

Is tranny gay?

Definently strange, but is it a gay thing or no?

Keyser Soze 2004-03-23 03:14 PM

I´ve always been told by someone that know tranny that its NOT gay.

In my opinion its true I can´t see a gay guy buy tranny porn but I can see a straight guy buy tranny porn out of curiosity its not as big a jump as to gay.

urb 2004-03-23 03:25 PM

Re: Is tranny gay?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
I've been updating my bannerserver and I am a little confused.

Is tranny gay?


Go on Jay, I dare ya to post your question here.

xxxjay 2004-03-23 03:35 PM

Re: Re: Is tranny gay?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by urb
Go on Jay, I dare ya to post your question here.
URB - LOL - don't dare me...I'd do it just for a goof.

Keyser - Thanks for your input. I'm about as liberal as they come - I'm for gay marriage and everything, but if you are a guy and you want another guy (with tits) for anal and oral sex...isn't that gay?

I've always subscribed to the "If you suck one dick, you are gay." notion.

urb 2004-03-23 03:37 PM

Re: Re: Re: Is tranny gay?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
URB - LOL - don't dare me...I'd do it just for a goof.

Jay :)

There appears to be some info in the FAQs on that site.

MrMaryLou 2004-03-23 03:39 PM

I found watching the movie To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar cleared allot of stuff up for me

kamilla 2004-03-23 03:43 PM

I've been told that tranny is straight (peronally I would like to see it in a category of its own lol).
I have a group of toplists and one of them is http://www.ClickForShemales.com - I don't have to send traffic to it because it gets more than needed from the other lists and my avarege click out ratio is 1:2 (I send out twice what I get in). I don't have any gay sites or gay link trades so it's all straight traffic - yet shemales is so popular.

Ps. I'm having a hard time to find shemale/tranny sites to link up with so if you have one (sorry, I don't accept tgps) then please come and signup for a link trade today

Thanks, Kamilla |shake|

urb 2004-03-23 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrMaryLou
I found watching the movie To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar cleared allot of stuff up for me
Yes, I think MML has hit the nail on the head with this thread.

I think it's really a category on it's own.

xxxjay 2004-03-23 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrMaryLou
I found watching the movie To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar cleared allot of stuff up for me
MML - Missed that one...did Mel Gibson do that one?

kamilla - You can submit to my tranny category. I have a fair amout of tranny traffic.

Tart 2004-03-23 04:56 PM

I don't build tranny sites.. but I put ones submitted to me in my bicurious section (same with the MMF sites)

Cleo 2004-03-23 05:00 PM

Trannies, the other white meat. :D

Not gay, not straight, it's a fetish.

Kind of like asking if a woman using a dildo is straight or gay.

MrsHackula 2004-03-23 06:30 PM



In my opinion, it's definitely gay, whether the viewers want to admit it or not.

Think about it, the only visual difference between a tranny and a real female is the dick... If the viewer wanted to jerk off to a real female, he would be looking at a real female. If he's jerking off to the tranny, it's has to be for the dick. Which, to me, is absolutely gay.

I don't see them as "Chicks with Dicks" but as "Men with Tits". ;)


Dr Bizzaro 2004-03-23 08:35 PM

Depends....are you picthing or catching?

dareutwo 2004-03-23 09:24 PM

I say it's it's own category -
though I'm sure you'll have a tough time finding a link on Marks...lol
Maybe we should be creating categories by DNA :)

Quote:

Kind of like asking if a woman using a dildo is straight or gay
This is a whole other topic, probably on the chat board?

Ramster 2004-03-23 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr Bizzaro
Depends....are you pitching or catching?
|blowjob|

|haha

Jaden 2004-03-23 11:15 PM

And don't forget about all the women out there who love trannys as well...

kamilla 2004-03-24 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay

kamilla - You can submit to my tranny category. I have a fair amout of tranny traffic.

um, I asked if anyone had a tranny site to signup for my toplist for a link trade - not where to submit fs. But thanks for the offer.

Kamilla

plateman 2004-03-24 01:09 AM

in my book you would have to be gay to roll around with a tranny.. unless your a trans tech as i am, i been working on trannies for 20 years and not the kind that has a cock and a set of tits..

Amber 2004-03-24 02:03 AM

To me, it's a category all it's own.

We've just added a new Tranny site to the www.ARS4Real.com line up too called Rate My Tranny -
http://4real.ratemytranny.com/frs.php?c=free

The site looks great and is ready for promotion. Personally, I'm amazed at how good looking some of these tranny's are. The tranny in the second free video trailer on the front of the site has a beautiful face... it kinda surprised me that she's got a cock too. ;-)

This niche has always converted well for me...I've promoted SheMale sites via SE's and I'm not sure if it was more so gay or straight traffic that clicked through - maybe it's both, if for no other reason than a surfers curiosity.

I'm not sure why this niche does so well, but check out RateMyTranny and let me know what you think.

Surfn 2004-03-24 03:39 AM

I'm with MrsHackula on this.

Kezza 2004-03-24 08:00 AM

Tranny's may be gay... but if you are trying to sell it... then you are hitting the "curious"... dont hit the gay market... they have seen it all before :D Its a great market if you can hit it!

Cleo 2004-03-24 08:04 AM

It does convert very well. In fact it is my best converting niche.

MrMaryLou 2004-03-24 08:26 AM

From what I have read and seen a tranny is a woman traped inside a mans body. I am thinking a drag queen would be gay thing.

Linkster 2004-03-24 08:49 AM

I once did a lot of reading on this to try to figure out the same question for my LL in the beginning
What I cam away with is that there are a few different categories of Trannys - the female who wants to be male, the male that wants to be female and the crossdressers that don't want the sex-change, just the "other side of things"

The male that wants to stop repressing the female side and get the change ops, is not necessarily gay, as a mater of fact there are many that are "lesbians" if you use that thought process - they still want to be with women, although many of the sponsors miss this fact when designing sites - they think they all have to be men that want other men - an old "religious upbringing" hold-over maybe?

Females that want to be males are a little rarer, although there is still a market for that type of site - and I have yet to see anyone push that niche - looking at it - it might be one to make some targetted niche money at :)

crossdressers seem to not have the commitment to the other gender but "get off" more on the eroticism of being in the other sex's clothes - although again some generalizations are made in the sponsor world about them being gay or lesbian - because thats all the sponsors have delved into - again - a niche that could probably be exploited

Kezza 2004-03-24 08:50 AM

Nah... think broader... you are striaght... right... so you are turned on by a girl.

or... you are gay... you are turned on by a guy

Tranny? no true gay guy is turned on by a tranny...

Just like you straight guys really...

Its a niche to its own... it encompases the curious side of everyone... straight and gay

finnbear 2004-03-24 09:11 AM

Well, what I have read I have learn this:

Crossdressers, or transvestites as we call them here are straight men who want to dress in women's clothes but are heteros. Most of them are married.

Drag queens are gays.

Shemales are men who live as women but don't want sex change opeartion.

Transsexuals are "men" who want to be women and want sex change operation or "women" who want to be men and want sex change operation. Male to female transsexual is called M to F, and female to male transsexual is called F to M. Before operation they are called pre-op and after post-op.

Men who want transsexuals are not gay in a matter that they won't usually go with men. They can be transsexuals or shemales themselves, just in closet still. Some of them will go out, some don't.

IMHO transgender sites are their own niche and it's not wise to put them under gay category. Surfers don't look there.

I don't usually submit my tranny sites to LL who put them in gay category, but today I made exception. That LL sends nice traffic, and I thought WTF, I can try this once.

doublep 2004-03-24 10:33 AM

Niche of it's own - most Def. How many transexuals do you see on a gay porn site?

Now, if you have finished fucking with our minds Jay - I'll get back to work :D

Cheers,

Paul.

xxxjay 2004-03-24 11:12 AM

After enough reading on this thread, I've decided that maybe I did the right thing on my linklist:

http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/gay_main.html

See the "THE FENCE-RIDER GAY LINKS" - just meaning:

Let the surfer make up thier mind.

The tranny links are also visible with the straight links as well:

http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/main.html

My mind is made up though, if you have a dick and you want to have sex with something that has one as well...that's gay.

Opti 2004-03-24 12:04 PM

Do MMF bi-sex sites fit into a gay LL?

doublep 2004-03-24 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Opti
Do MMF bi-sex sites fit into a gay LL?
I would say so - a bisex category would not be out of place in a gay link list at all - the straight out and out gays (excuse pun) would probably give MMF sites a miss - but Bi guys would lap em' up!

Phoenix 2004-03-24 03:05 PM

i'd have to say tranny is not gay.

gay guys dont like to even hear about boobs from what i have been told.

i would keep tranny stuff on the "straight" sections

i think you will get more people coming through the straight side interested in tranny stuff then the ones coming from the gay side

xxxjay 2004-03-25 12:59 PM

Pheonix - that's why I've gone through the trouble of dividing my LL in half and making certian links available to both.

If we, as webmasters in the sex business are confused, you can imagine what the surfer experience must be like.

Linkster 2004-03-25 02:09 PM

Jay - a little off topic - but if ya think tranny is bad - check out what most of the sponsors think a bdsm/bondage site should be :)
I've seen very few that have any idea what the surfer who is really looking for bondage and BDSM content is looking for but I can tell you that both parties in collars with a guys dick in the female "slave" mouth probably is the worst depiction of what they want - as soon as I see a banner like that on a sponsor page, I move on :) and so do the surfers

romeoboi 2004-03-25 07:56 PM

Tranny is NOT GAY!

If you are running a link list, put a separate section for it. While there may be some overlap in the audience, you will more likely alienate your audience looking for more traditionally gay sex links.

I think its hard when designing for niches that don't personally appeal to you, and when thinking about gays & trannys its easy to just have a black or white notion of sexuality... but its not that simple!

Some men may define themseleves as straight and maybe only have heterosexual sex, but might find trannys sexually appealing. The same might go for gay men.

Then there may be some people who define themseleves as "transgendered" or "transexual"... these have different meanings and implications, so don't just assume.

I think your best bet is to keep your gay & tranny sites/links/whatever separate as they are very different niches...

Think if some guy is looking for the gay teen niche aka "twink" and he sees a big banner with tranny on it! He will close that page ASAP and move on.

Also, if you look at gay culture as a whole trannys tend to be pretty separate or at least on the fringes. (drag queens do not equal trannies!) The major gay video companies like Falcon don't do tranny videos... its not much of an overlaping market.

thats my cheap two cents :)

KristianF 2004-03-26 04:22 PM

lol
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Dr Bizzaro
Depends....are you picthing or catching?
I agree, I have lived with 2 gay men over the course of the last six years, roomies, etc. They have mixed opinions. But my own, I have known men into women and trannies but not men. Men who are openly gay, want men that look like men, not men that look like women. Alot of men into trannies are married and seeking out they're taboo. Anyway the older I get the gayer my friends become, I have been to many of gay bars and damn near conviced, there are some pretty hot fucking trannys out there, I just have to make sure what I drink, as too not get too confused, lol. I personally am not into it but sources say straight men go after women and trannys, gay men go after gay men.

Amber 2004-03-26 04:30 PM

Re: lol
 
Quote:

Originally posted by KristianF
...but sources say straight men go after women and trannys, gay men go after gay men.
I agree. I think you hit the nail on the head (er, no pun intended. ;>)

urb 2004-03-26 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrMaryLou
I found watching the movie To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar cleared allot of stuff up for me
You'd never guess what film was on UK TV last night, MrMaryLou :D

SomeCreep 2004-03-27 03:19 PM

Re: Is tranny gay?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
I've been updating my bannerserver and I am a little confused.

Is tranny gay?

Definently strange, but is it a gay thing or no?

Thats a big question. The short answer is no, tranny is not gay because someone who likes watching a tranny suck cock will not like watching a guy suck cock.

Rictor 2004-03-30 03:03 AM

Lots of straight guys seems to like shemales. They definitely don't fall in the gay category but I think transvetites (hairy dudes in dresses) do.

FHM 2004-03-30 12:53 PM

From what I know Tranny is not gay.


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