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FoZzI 2003-09-15 02:09 AM

What do to with this hotlink?
 
Was having a go at my stats today. And I found a strange URL at the top of the BW eater.

http://www.apollos-temple.com/wwwboa...ges/45644.html


And in there was links to some of my mpg files I use for a mgp gallery. As you see now, the link has been close. But if you enter this Url:

http://apollos-temple.com/wwwboard/index.html

The site has a "Movie Posting Forum". Should I do anything about it, other than putting a .htaccess up in my movie folders?

Just found another post with my movies in it:
http://www.apollos-temple.com/wwwboa...ges/45684.html

I see my htaccess can stop people from clicking the [1]<-linking to the movie. But if people copy and paste the url into their browser they still get to view the movie. Anyway around that?

NotThatKevin 2003-09-15 02:39 AM

I love it when they hot link my TGP galleries because it's free traffic and you do get sales from them. I post my TGP galleries on sites like this so don't see it as a negative :)

FoZzI 2003-09-15 02:46 AM

Well, the problem is that they only link to the contents ( .mpg .avi .mpeg). But not to the .htm page.

NotThatKevin 2003-09-15 03:09 AM

Don't you have a url in your video? If not you should but I'm not sure how the TGP gallery owners feel about this.

If you can't then I wouldn't just block them. Redirect them to a traffic trading page or something.

NotThatKevin 2003-09-15 03:12 AM

By the way you can also embed a url popup at the end of the video so that it redirects them to your pay site.

FoZzI 2003-09-15 03:18 AM

I dont think that tgp sites likes a embed url popup in the movies :)
I wanna stop them by htaccess

NotThatKevin 2003-09-15 03:34 AM

Have a look at this page it may be able to help you http://www.webmastersguide.com/htacc...cess.htm#video

WolfPack 2003-09-15 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NotThatKevin
Have a look at this page it may be able to help you http://www.webmastersguide.com/htacc...cess.htm#video
Hey Kevin, what's up man? long time no see.

urb 2003-09-15 05:26 AM

Just to mention that Apollos Temple used to have some serious traffic. They've been on my .htaccess for a long time now.

Not sure how much traffic they have now, but if you are worried about bandwidth, block 'em out asap.

FoZzI 2003-09-15 05:31 AM

How do I block a domain in htaccess?

NotThatKevin 2003-09-15 05:32 AM

Hiya wolfpack do I know you mate?

urb 2003-09-15 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FoZzI
How do I block a domain in htaccess?
RewriteEngine on
RewriteOptions inherit
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*livejournal.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*communities.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*systran.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*password.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*onecenter.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*readworld.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*keeptalking.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*apollos-temple.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*terra.*$
RewriteRule /* http://www.yourdomainorsponsor.com/ [R,L]


I use the above, and it works ok.

FoZzI 2003-09-15 05:55 AM

Cheers mate,

Do you know how to stop it, if the surfer copy the url into their browers?

urb 2003-09-15 05:57 AM

Yep, move or rename whatever they are hotlinking.

FoZzI 2003-09-15 05:59 AM

Good idea, but then I have to change all the tgp htm files. So they are linking to the right movies. The change for being blacklisted for change the htm file after been listed is getting big then :)

urb 2003-09-15 06:03 AM

DoS attack them |skull|

Just kidding :D

How many TGPs are we talking about? You could email all who have listed you and go 404.

FoZzI 2003-09-15 06:09 AM

I submit daily to over 100 tgp sites. Gonna give it a go

Mikey 219 2003-09-15 07:40 AM

Options +FollowSymlinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www\.)?teenieman.com(/)?.*$ [NC]
RewriteRule .*\.(gif|jpg|jpeg|mpg|mpeg)$ http://www.teenieman.com/tour_01.php [R,NC]

works for me ... cant view video by posting url path to it in address bar.

its option 2 at:

http://www.htmlbasix.com/disablehotlinking.shtml

urb 2003-09-15 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mikey 219
works for me ... cant view video by posting url path to it in address bar.

Ooohhh Mikey, that's a very nice piece of code. :D

Mikey 219 2003-09-15 08:41 AM

i aim to please :)

spazlabz 2003-09-15 11:11 AM

FoZzI,
No problem at all man. I can ban your TGPs URL on my script and prevent anyone from posting any of your Pages/Files on the ReddyFreddys Movie Posting Forum in a split second. Matter of fact, it's done now. I had considered closing down the forum a month or so ago, but there is a little bit of traffic to it and I still make sales from it so we keep it up. www.gaymovietgp.com has been banned from the script so if anyone tries and post anything from that domain they won't be able to.
Again FoZzI, sorry for the trouble.

spaz

Wazza 2003-09-15 12:04 PM

Wouldn't banning .mgp .wmv .mov et al be more effective in preventing file leeching originating from your board?

At the very least ppl would be forced to post links to galleries and give the person who's supplying content to your board (and is indirectly financing some of your sales) a chance to make a sale of their own?

spazlabz 2003-09-15 12:08 PM

NO, because we have a lot of posters who post their movies in various formats with their URL on the movie file itself. If I ban the file formats itself it ceases to be a movie posting forum and becomes a linklist. Not that there is anything wrong with those, but this forum has been up unchanged for quite awhile now (think years)

spaz

urb 2003-09-15 12:13 PM

Yep, well that's one thing we didn't suggest....... contact the webmaster of the messsage board. :)

I am so used to message board webmasters being hostile about hotlinking or quoting legal shit at me.

I don't agree with hotlinking, but at least spazlabz has sorted it out. :)

spazlabz 2003-09-15 12:19 PM

yeah we try and be as reasonable as possible, as you can imagine we have pretty high BW bills ourselves and aren't looking to make life any harder on anyone else that's for sure. We actually have link trades with several MGP (gay)sites out there, and have always enjoyed a good relationship with them. If anyone has a problem with that site a quick e mail will resolve it quickly.
Quote:

I am so used to message board webmasters being hostile about hotlinking or quoting legal shit at me.
my personal opinion is that respect between those of us who are in the business is very important. I won't get rude with another webmaster, even if they are rude with me, I just won't reply....... I save any and all venom I have specifically for Acacia|raygun|

spaz

gel 2003-09-15 12:35 PM

http://www.htmlbasix.com/disablehotlinking.shtml

Great link Mikey

One thing they mention on that page and I have not found a solution to is that most requests for video files come from a media player. Media Players do not send referrer data.
As a result you can't reliablely use .htaccess to block them.

Has any one found a solution to this problem?

Wazza 2003-09-15 12:43 PM

You can use cookies Gel - don't have a link on me atm...

Wazza 2003-09-15 01:25 PM

Give this a whirl - about 3/4 of the way down

http://www.sponsorfraud.com/resources/passguard/

WolfPack 2003-09-15 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NotThatKevin
Hiya wolfpack do I know you mate?
I'm Jorge :)

gel 2003-09-15 02:58 PM

Thanks for the inout Wazza. I should of been more specific. There are definately ways to protect movie file from hotlinkers. Of the ones I fond the cookie method seems to be the easiest.

More specificaly I haven't found a way to protect those movie files and still be TGP/MGP compliant.

FoZzI 2003-09-15 05:17 PM

Whoho, lot of usefull infomation here. Cheers all.
Spazlabz, you dog you :)
You should allow my domain access to your forum again, since I now can redirect the traffic to my own mgp |shake|

spazlabz 2003-09-15 05:30 PM

LOL FoZzI,
Quote:

You should allow my domain access to your forum again, since I now can redirect the traffic to my own mgp
Boy-O-Boy, ya try to please some people!! hehehee Just kidding, I will remove the URL from the banned list if that's what you want. I aim to please. Also, since you have a little idea of the kind of quality targetted traffic we have at the forum (it's been up for a little over 3 years now) would you like to do a little link exchange? I can put a link to your MGP up at the top of the forum under the 'Friends Of Reddy Freddy' if ya wouldn't mind slapping one up for the forum. Let me know. Just shoot a mail over to Ted @ apollos-temple.com saying what text you want to appear and to what URL you would want it to point to :)
Chees mate and have a good one.

spaz

FoZzI 2003-09-15 05:43 PM

You got mail |bananna|

spazlabz 2003-09-15 06:09 PM

Cool FoZzI,
Got it, read it, liked it (crazy fonts and all LOL) and will have your link up top in less than a half hour and your domain unblocked. Can't wait to send you a bunch more gallery pages heh heh
Cheers mate :)

spaz


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