F***n spam!
 

I just got your latest newsletter, and nope, I didn't win the prize! ;( ...but, I saw that text about spam that is just gettin bigger and bigger every day... now, I just wanted to ask if there is anything a man could do to kick spammers butt like this:

spammer - > |knockout| <- anyone

...I tried some program that was looking for mail senders to go to a link and authorize for future mails, but that thing is useless since I get tons of gally submision confirmation mails, newsletters, and stuff like that, and have to authorize them manually .. also, what about those *REMOVE HERE* links on the bottom of those spams!? .. any use of them, or is it just another scam?

saL

Get well over a thousand a day.

My mail program has Bayesian filters which works pretty well.

I have load images turned off which also seems to help.

I never use the remove links as I've seen shady stuff done with this link.

I get so many now it is insane. Something needs to be done about this, but what?

I would never click the Remove Me link in spam email. Some say that's an indication to the spammer that you get your emails and read them so he'll spam you even more now. |raygun|

|ihatespam |raygun|

I love spam, lets me know that there is other things in life to do besides work and have fun.

It even helps me in not wasting so much time working or sleeping.

Please send me more spam to feedmespam@masochistsrus.com



|couch|

Yes, I am getting about four or five a day which contain viruses or worms attached to them too. These actually make me laugh. (I'm weird)

You could do a couple things- not sure if you are up to it though (it can be some work). I would suggest making use of filters and entering in the email addresses (or domains only if your filter can do it) of the places you submit to and then send this to a special "folder". You could also add more assurance that you will see it by having another filter transfer messages with certain words in the subject (eg Submission, posted, denied, listed, etc - so that you will catch important stuff more often) in that same folder or a different tiered priority one.

With other people who you know, enter them in the filter too or just specify a certain "keyword" when listing your email address in certain places where people MUST include this among the subject for you to see (like some do with a submit code in LLs).

With known spam subjects (and many use the same ones) and senders have your filter toss those to a junk folder to check everyonce in a while. Outlook and Eudora I know have filters. Or you could go server side if you had to.


Not foolproof, but it shuld help. This is one of those things. Perhaps some blessed soul will one day develop a free A.I. expert system to do a better job in the future...

I get so much spam its unreal.... literally thousands a day....

I started using this program a few months ago and I must say it really works quite well.... Not a spam I dont own the program or anything but it really does work great!

http://cloudmark.com/

Good luck!

thanx! .. I'll give it a try! |shake|

saL

|bananna| it's working fine so far... moving all the spam automatically to a "SPAM" folder ... missed just 1 in 35 so far ...

saX

I returned home, after 3 days absence, to find 400 emails in my inbox and over 35,000 in my spam folder. So if anyone emailed me anything and I don't reply sometime today it was caught in my spam filters. I wasn't going to spend hours checking that folder.

I didn't see any GG&J newsletters so I assume they were in there too. |sad|

I've been very happy with mozilla's thunderbird. The spam filter is pretty damn good. It's free and it works!
http://mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

And if you haven't tried their browser, you are really missing out:
http://mozilla.org/products/firefox/

I sent 35000, no need to reply tho

So you're the one!!! |angry|


lol

I haven't tried this yet... but I have downloaded it and plan to set it up today or tommorrow.

Dr. Guile posted it on another board and the discussion about it made it sound awesome.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/

I use http://spampal.org with the mozilla email client. Works as well as can be expected. Spampal catches a lot, and the filters in mozilla work great on most of the rest. I went from 2500-3000 emails a day to less than 200. Occasionally it creaps up, and I just have to download the latest blacklists and recheck the mozilla filters.

my ISP put up a spam filter about 3 months ago, suddenly my emails went from 950 a day to 10 each day on that email account. I still can turn the ISP's filter off but I think I'm not going to, GG&Jim newsletter is still coming through ok :)

Edit: look, here's another one right now :D

Spam Rocks!
 

I must get 1000's of USE's daily. And with all these penis pills and toys going out its starting to give me a complex |jester|
I don't mind spam but I do feel its gotten way out of control!

|waves|

My favorites (not!) are the ones actually selling anti-spam software, that have variations on the subject line "Now you can eliminate emails like this one!"

Spammers |raygun|

I get tons of those too...everyday |jester|

Another laugh is the "Christian Debt Relief"...so God is making personal loans?

i cant use my ISP email anymore due to spam. unless i hire someone to check 400 messages daily

i tried mozilla's "thunderbird" e-mail client and it started randomly losing e-mails that i had archived into folders. so i gave up on mozilla for e-mail. their firefox browser is nice though.

the only program i've found that successfully removes ALL spam (their site claims 98%.. i experienced nearly 100% when i tried it.) is "motino". i don't use it though because i no longer use outlook. the way it works, is you teach it what you consider spam. and it analyzes future e-mails as they come into your outlook inbox, and then it redirects them to a spam quaranteen folder if they match.

currently i use "foxmail".. it's spam blocker isn't the greatest, but it is currently the best overall e-mail client for windows, in my opinion, and it's free.

Josho.. this program uses the same base algorithm as motino, you train it the way you describe... it will work with foxmail (or any other email client) and its free.

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/

There is a paid service around that adjusts the "training" based on all the other users reactions to their email as well as yours.. apparently if you use that for their month long free trial you can then copy your training information over to spambayes too. (not sure of the name but know how I can get it if anyone is really intertested)

Thanks for the link, it's been working great! |smooch|

my favourite too! |shake|

saL

in a way i think its silly for us to complain about email spam but no one really complains about junk mail

I think they track when the images download and know those are real address with real people veiwing the email

I have had a lot of sucess just using the filters in outlook
it dumps about 95% of it into the trash bin

I got so many email rules outlook seems to stall for a min or two when downloading my email, I think cause its checking all the mail against the rules

I am gonna try that spam net though

ok thanks. i think i've seen that before, but i'll check that out agian. i believe i had disregarded it before because you had to run another process at all times, that constantly scanned your pop3 port -- i just didn't like the idea of that. i suppose i'm just a bit anal about my task manager. |violin|

I was using spamkiller before this and although it was good, the memory overhead of running it was an issue for me. One major advantage of spambayes is that it has almost no memory overhead compared to most other programs.

The way spambayes works is as a proxy client.. which I do leave running all the time, but only needs to be active when you want to check email.. the client is tiny anyway and is no problem to run as a startup service.

Basically you tell spambayes what your pop3 account details are.. then change your email client to use "localhost" as the pop3 address.

Then when you go to collect email your normal email program conects to your spambayes proxy, the proxy connects to your email server and collects the mail... and simply adds a "mark" on each message if it thinks it is definitely Spam, definitelty a Good email or Unsure.. It doesnt delete mail or anything.. just rates it.

Then you can use your current email clients rules to sort the email using those "marks"

So its probably good for your anal problem ;-)

I am also going to check out the Cloudmark one now too though. Based on what others have said in this thread it seems to be worth the effort.. there is so many new ideas on how to deal with email around now I am hopeful SPAM will be a non-issue of the past in the forseeable future.

So what do you have to do to "train" spambayes? It seems that if it's not built directly into the e-mail client, as in a "junk mail/good mail" button like motino has, it would be easier just to delete the spam.

thanks for your time,
josho

when you first setup spambayes you enable a proxy cache that stores a copy of all the mail it sees... to "train" spambayes you use a browser based admin utilty to mark which messages were the SPAM and which were the HAM..

Once it is trained to the point it gets all SPAM hits correct and most HAM hits marked as HAM rather than UNSURE, you turn of the caching part.

It's hard to explain without looking at it.. i know I didnt get it until I used it anyway.. But basically it is ultimately flexible and it's simplistic ideaolgy in the way you incorporate it into your existing system is brilliant in my mind..

I understand what you mean though... this just does one thing.. but i imagine you could set it up so spam was automatically reported to spamcop and other such things.. it's not a microsoft boxed product type app though.. so doing all that isnt point and click.

It is easy to install and test without fucking up any existing spam filering or email client rules btw... it's not a pain to try and then discard.

All of these "solutions" still mean you have to download the email... and if you get as many as I do.. that is gonna be significant BW over time.

MailWasher 4.0 -

deletes from server,
can automatically delete SPAM(from server),
compares incomings to SpamCop/ORDB,
can automatically report to SpamCop,
can bounce spam,
blacklist/whitelist,
doesnt add anything to email messages
essentially unlimited filters,
learns as it goes spam/ham
Easy setup,
Free trial,
< $40.00

it is the only thing close to an answer that I know of
http://www.firetrust.com/products/pro/

I agree with DangerDave. I have tried several programs, but MailWasher beats them all imho. An excellent piece of software at a very low price. And extremely easy to customize...

I'd never guess that I'd ever start quality thread like this! |roses|

p.s. MailWasher 4.0 sounds promising, I'll give it a try!

saL