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DarkJedi 2004-06-06 07:53 AM

I am buying textlinks on sites with PageRank 5 and higher
 
I'm looking for a PR boost, not traffic.
If you have a site with PR5 > and don't mind making extra money, then send me your URL and asking price to: stormclaw [at] gmx.net

Payments are done thru PayPal or Epassporte.

kristian 2004-06-06 11:10 AM

Why pay? Enough webmasters should be willing to make a fair trade.

DarkJedi 2004-06-06 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kristian
Why pay? Enough webmasters should be willing to make a fair trade.
Dont want to trade.
I need one-way links. This way i'll get a better PR boost.

Cleo 2004-06-06 12:04 PM

Is this before or after Google shit cans your domain for doing this?

kristian 2004-06-06 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Dont want to trade.
I need one-way links. This way i'll get a better PR boost.

okay. may the swartz be with you...always.

DarkJedi 2004-06-06 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
Is this before or after Google shit cans your domain for doing this?
why would they do it ?
is buying text links illegal ?

btw, you are much more likely to get banned for trading reciped links. google might mistake it for a link farming.

Cleo 2004-06-06 01:51 PM

I don't really know for sure but it would be my guess that Google would look down on buying links just for PR.

You posted this on at least two boards and I would guess that Google does have some idea of what is going on at the boards.

IMO natural linking is the way to go, not buying links.

DarkJedi 2004-06-06 02:18 PM

PR link buying is going on everywhere.
There are PR9 sites that sell links. Its very common.

http://www.prprowler.com

Useless 2004-06-06 05:16 PM

It's times like this I wish I could find the link I had to the mainstream design newsletter declaring Google's page rank dead. It also stated that PR has always been based on a haphazard algorithm which was destined to fail.

DangerDave 2004-06-06 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
IMO natural linking is the way to go, not buying links.
What Cleo said!


and...
http://www.google.com/webmasters/seo.html


IF this person is so good at getting PR? Why is he telling you? or Why is he selling you software for 80 bucks that can do the same?

ARE you telling me that he cant make more money getting top ten listings whenever he wants......... rather than selling crappy software?

IF he sells the software to 1000 people..... they cant all be top ten for the same keywords can they.

PR alone = NOTHING

DD

xxxjay 2004-06-06 06:51 PM

If google saw this tread - you would be banned.

ecchi 2004-06-06 07:31 PM

RE -"If google saw this tread - you would be banned." Possibly, but the odds on someone from Google seeing this thread have got to be about the same as winning several state lotteries on the same day and also being hit by a meteor before collecting.

Personally I would never pay for a link like this, but DarkJedi's logic is sound. The only downside is that he will probably find that most webmaster's have an inflated idea of the value of a PR5 and want too much money for a link.

Or worse, DarkJedi may have an inflated idea of the value of a PR5 and pay too highly them.

ecchi 2004-06-06 07:36 PM

Oh, and if you are worried about being banned by Google, they don't like link trades either, and that is easier to spot (eg a few years ago when they changed their spider to look for this, the traffic to good TGP sites from Google dropped to about 20% of what it previously was because they started to ignore linkbacks (and some WMs say that they even penalized sites for them))

Cleo 2004-06-06 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ecchi
RE -"If google saw this tread - you would be banned." Possibly, but the odds on someone from Google seeing this thread have got to be about the same as winning several state lotteries on the same day and also being hit by a meteor before collecting.
I would not be surprised at all if Google doesn't have bots looking for keywords involving doing stuff like this so that they can filter it out.

The whole PR thing was just a gimmick Google came up with to get people to install their toolbar and use them back before they became the status quo for SEs.

Rictor 2004-06-07 01:19 AM

Since when are link trades and buying links a bad thing?

ecchi 2004-06-07 04:35 AM

From our point of view they are not, but the idea of pr is sites that linked to you because they think you are good, not because you asked them to (i.e. Google see it as an unsolicited recommendation). That is why Google bots are supposed to ignore trades. It is rumored that because they cannot catch all trades that when they do catch one the penalize the pr because they assume there are more that they did not catch.

DarkJedi 2004-06-07 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
If google saw this tread - you would be banned.

LOL, banned from where ? GreenGuy&Jim board ?
They dont know what site im buying links to.

BTW, they'd ban you too for the link farming.
Google doesnt like it either.


But thats not likely at all.
Because you and I both offer surfers content. We dont Hijack top serps only to send surfers to sponsors. Google goes only for heavy spammers and deals with little over-optimizers by built-in penalties.



To other posters:
As for PR having no value - keep thinking that.
Do you oftent see site in top 3 with PR5 ?

They're atleast PR6. PR7-PR8 almost guarantees you top spots.

DangerDave 2004-06-07 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
To other posters:
As for PR having no value - keep thinking that.
Do you oftent see site in top 3 with PR5 ?

They're atleast PR6. PR7-PR8 almost guarantees you top spots.

DarkJedi, you are free to do as you wish... as usual posts here...... are nothing more than advice.

Fact - I have sites/pages in Google at #1 that are PR 3 - so PR is not the only determinant

No one said PR had no value. - I said - "PR alone = NOTHING"

PR 6-7-8 will NOT garauntee you top spot in any SER, there are at least 10-100 other factors that will influence it's position

DD

xxxjay 2004-06-07 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ecchi
RE -"If google saw this tread - you would be banned." Possibly, but the odds on someone from Google seeing this thread have got to be about the same as winning several state lotteries on the same day and also being hit by a meteor before collecting.
The chance of google just happening across this thread is very small - *HOWEVER* say Darkjedi pisses off a competitor because he went over them in the SERPS and then the rival webmaster send this thread too Google as a spam complaint.

Now see the problem?

You have to remember that most webmasters are petty jealous bastards that would do something like this.

ecchi 2004-06-07 08:06 PM

Yes, but the same goes for any traffic trading. Say, for example you flame me in another thread and I want revenge, I could just as easily send them to wherever the traffic trade link in your signature goes to, and that would be preferable to them because you no doubt have the URLs you want trades on listed, they could just cut you off in an instant. But if they wanted to cut DarkJedi off after seeing this thread they have got to find him first.

Bottom line : Yes we could all someday get penalized or dropped by Google, but if we get paranoid about every little thing we may as well give up on SEO, close down our sites, and see if K-Mart is hiring.

otter 2004-06-07 08:31 PM

pr for sale
 
I will take offers for links on my pr4 or pr5 sites.
starting at $2500 a month each

evildick 2004-06-07 08:38 PM

Re: pr for sale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by otter
I will take offers for links on my pr4 or pr5 sites.
starting at $2500 a month each

What a bargain.

I'll take 30.

ecchi 2004-06-07 08:42 PM

See I told you I could see into the future !

Quote:

Originally posted by ecchi
The only downside is that he will probably find that most webmaster's have an inflated idea of the value of a PR5 and want too much money for a link.
|jester|

xxxjay 2004-06-07 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ecchi
Yes, but the same goes for any traffic trading. Say, for example you flame me in another thread and I want revenge, I could just as easily send them to wherever the traffic trade link in your signature goes to, and that would be preferable to them because you no doubt have the URLs you want trades on listed, they could just cut you off in an instant. But if they wanted to cut DarkJedi off after seeing this thread they have got to find him first.

Bottom line : Yes we could all someday get penalized or dropped by Google, but if we get paranoid about every little thing we may as well give up on SEO, close down our sites, and see if K-Mart is hiring.

You can get a job - I make too much money at this - LOL. Yes, but there is an agruement that a link trade has some value to the surfer, such as guiding them to more sites with realated info - which is what SEs want anyways. They need links to crawl. Whereas, just buying links for SE purposes is just fim-flamming Google and they would crack down on that much sooner that link trades.

FYI: I like DarkJedi - he's one of my best submitters to my LL. He asked for advice I'm offering it. Not to mention:

1. The price
2. Are the people selling the link gonna be there tomorrow?
3. No matter how high the PR. Are the links relevant?
4. How many other people are they selling links to?

And much much more.

ecchi 2004-06-07 08:55 PM

RE - "He asked for advice I'm offering it" Hell yes that is what we are all here for. My posts may come across as curt but that is just because I try to edit them for length. I am not knocking anyone, just giving a different opinion. Sorry if anyone took it otherwise.

DarkJedi 2004-06-08 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DangerDave
DarkJedi, you are free to do as you wish... as usual posts here...... are nothing more than advice.

Fact - I have sites/pages in Google at #1 that are PR 3 - so PR is not the only determinant

No one said PR had no value. - I said - "PR alone = NOTHING"

PR 6-7-8 will NOT garauntee you top spot in any SER, there are at least 10-100 other factors that will influence it's position

DD

I agree man.
PR alone is nothing.
And I never said it would guarantee a top placement.
Its just that i'm doing a lot of SEO work on my site and i'm also buying links to my site to help it out.

DarkJedi 2004-06-08 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
The chance of google just happening across this thread is very small - *HOWEVER* say Darkjedi pisses off a competitor because he went over them in the SERPS and then the rival webmaster send this thread too Google as a spam complaint.

Now see the problem?

You have to remember that most webmasters are petty jealous bastards that would do something like this.

Jay, google get dozens of thousands abuse reports every day.
They dont take any action, but note them to improve their penalty filters.

They only hand-ban sites that are SUPER spammy and are hurting the engine.

Plus there's nothing illigal in what i do. I'm buying relevant links to a relevant site with cotent.

DarkJedi 2004-06-08 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
You can get a job - I make too much money at this - LOL. Yes, but there is an agruement that a link trade has some value to the surfer, such as guiding them to more sites with realated info - which is what SEs want anyways. They need links to crawl. Whereas, just buying links for SE purposes is just fim-flamming Google and they would crack down on that much sooner that link trades.

FYI: I like DarkJedi - he's one of my best submitters to my LL. He asked for advice I'm offering it. Not to mention:

1. The price
2. Are the people selling the link gonna be there tomorrow?
3. No matter how high the PR. Are the links relevant?
4. How many other people are they selling links to?

And much much more.

I appreciate your concern for me Jay :)
But i'm no noob. I wont buy overpriced links and I can tell a shitty site from a good site.

You see, i've been dooing it for a long time and i'm happy with the results. Thats why i'm doing it again.

Again i tell you that i'm not jsut buying PR links. I'm doing a lot of other search engine optimization on my site.

Greenguy 2004-06-08 07:57 AM

Re: pr for sale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by otter
I will take offers for links on my pr4 or pr5 sites.
starting at $2500 a month each

I've got about 100 domains that are 4 or higher - an extra $250k a month in my pocket would be nice too!

djhits 2004-06-08 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Dont want to trade.
I need one-way links. This way i'll get a better PR boost.

im sure thats wrong pagerank is an iterative process.

Kezza 2004-06-08 08:46 PM

Many sites sell advertising spots, why don't you simply seek out some of these that have a PR you are looking for and negotiate a price. I am sure that they wouldnt be interested in your motivation for buying the spot (traffic, sales, PR)

Good luck :)

serious 2004-06-09 02:28 AM

To me it didn't look like he was looking for a bunch of advice or criticism on his method.

Anyway, theres nothing wrong with buying links for pr purposes, google frowns upon it but they also say you shouldn't do anything to your site that you wouldn't do if search engines didn't exist. |jester|

Of course it doesn't mean everything but a clear benefit to having a high pr is much more frequent visits from the google bot.

DarkJedi 2004-06-09 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kezza
Many sites sell advertising spots, why don't you simply seek out some of these that have a PR you are looking for and negotiate a price. I am sure that they wouldnt be interested in your motivation for buying the spot (traffic, sales, PR)

Good luck :)

Because adult sites don't openly advertise selling of text link. And the ones that do are well known high-traffic sites and a link there would cost a lot.

Kezza 2004-06-09 06:41 AM

I know of a couple if you would like to hit me up on icq 1808 5615

They sell advertising spots... not sure if they are the target market you are looking for... but they have done well for me.

Maybe you could also just ask some LL's about advertising space... you never know :)


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