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nastysurfers 2004-06-13 01:13 AM

Which Link Lists Send the Most Traffic?
 
If you were going to submit only to the top 20 or 30 traffic-producing link lists, which ones would be on your list? Here are the best ones in my experience, in alphabetical order:

Cherrypickedlinks.com
Fetishbank.net
Findpics.com
Free Pic Sex
Hoes
Jays XXX Links
Link-O-Rama
Mega Porn Links
Penisbot
Porn Directory
Richard’s Realm
Smut Gremlins
We Love Free Porn
Wet Place

Are there any others OF THIS CALIBER that I'm missing? I'd love it if there was another penisbot or greenguy that somehow I didn't know about.

blind 2004-06-13 01:46 AM

quality not quanitity :) anyway i would add:
Analbitch Pornlist
Freesite XXX
Cleo's Porn Links
Link for Sex
Adult Porn Guide

|peace|

nastysurfers 2004-06-13 02:03 AM

Thanks for the response. I submit to all of those sites too, except for Adult Porn Guide which I was not familiar with. Maybe I'll give that one a try.

Greenguy 2004-06-13 06:39 AM

That depends on what niche you're promoting - I love Tommy, but if I built a Big Tits site, JanTM would get the submit before Tommy did.

blind 2004-06-13 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
That depends on what niche you're promoting - I love Tommy, but if I built a Big Tits site, JanTM would get the submit before Tommy did.
Yeah, but there is still not to much niche link lists :)

Surfn 2004-06-13 08:54 AM

My banks don't accept traffic deposits they prefer money. :D

Cleo 2004-06-13 08:59 AM

I hear McDonald's is hiring.

nastysurfers 2004-06-13 09:10 AM

Cleo, I do quite well in porn thanks so I won't be taking out that McDonald's application any time soon.

OK, so I accept that you want quality traffic. But my stats software doesn't rate traffic by quality. If I get one hit in a month from tinylinklist.com how am I supposed to know that the hit resulted in a signup and I should keep taking the time to submit?

Cleo 2004-06-13 09:14 AM

But McDonald's does have more traffic then all the link lists and TGPs put together. :)

nastysurfers 2004-06-13 09:22 AM

If McDonalds ran a link list I'd submit to it. In the future maybe they'll have an adults-only area with a monitor at every table and a list of porn links for your entertainment, plus a box of Kleenex.

OK, now being serious, what are you advocating? That I submit to every link list in the world in the hopes of getting quality traffic and Google PR? I can't submit to every possible link list -- building and submitting free sites is only part of my porn business.

If there's a way to know who sends quality traffic I'd love to know about it.

Cleo 2004-06-13 09:28 AM

It is all trail and error to see who's traffic works best with your stuff.

How much traffic a place sends you is only part of what you need to looks at. You need to watch your sponsor's stats to see what ads are bring in sales and then figure out where the traffic came from that is feeding the ads that are converting for you.

All this is different for each webmaster so asking who has the best traffic is like asking who sells that best food.

Linkster 2004-06-14 08:58 AM

One thing you might try that has worked well for me back when I was submitting a lot - check the LLs on Google for your niche and pick the ones that rank well - not only does it help in the long run for your sites' ranking eventually, but its a pretty good bet that the LL is going to have pretty targetted traffic for that niche - and I can guarantee that SE traffic that has been filtered to a niche is golden compared to thousands of hits from non-targetted traffic

nastysurfers 2004-06-14 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linkster
One thing you might try that has worked well for me back when I was submitting a lot - check the LLs on Google for your niche and pick the ones that rank well - not only does it help in the long run for your sites' ranking eventually, but its a pretty good bet that the LL is going to have pretty targetted traffic for that niche - and I can guarantee that SE traffic that has been filtered to a niche is golden compared to thousands of hits from non-targetted traffic
Thanks! Good suggestion.

neo-gel 2004-06-14 12:28 PM

Nastysurfers check your PMs.

caringneo 2004-06-14 01:22 PM

Nice tips Linkster |shake|
I love to see your posts since you give some really serious and helpful suggestions to newbies.
Neo

Hasudam 2004-06-14 01:35 PM

1)I like persiankitty, very good traffic.
2) Penis bot.
3) Secretcorner.
4) Wetplace.
etc.


I like Cleo LL(PR 5:) ), but i not see traffic from you :(
2 my sites have 1rank from NEW sites(link have NEW pic)... and other rank.
But i see, 20-30unique... :(

blind 2004-06-14 01:58 PM

Hsudam - the first traffic clicks are not very important, more valuable are single clicks from category, which often converts into sales :)

doublep 2004-06-14 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linkster
One thing you might try that has worked well for me back when I was submitting a lot - check the LLs on Google for your niche and pick the ones that rank well - not only does it help in the long run for your sites' ranking eventually, but its a pretty good bet that the LL is going to have pretty targetted traffic for that niche - and I can guarantee that SE traffic that has been filtered to a niche is golden compared to thousands of hits from non-targetted traffic

|thumb

Opti 2004-06-14 02:45 PM

If you are really looking for suggestions for new ones... you don't have tommys-bookmarks.com on your list!

A little birdy told me that Mondoerotica.net and link-fabulous.com both have about the same amount of uniques per day as We Love Free Porn.. so they might be worth trying as well ;-)

eman 2004-06-14 02:49 PM

There are some very useful and totally hefty link sites missing from this thread. Ignore them at your peril.

And NO - I'm not trying to get myself noticed. My site is neither hefty nor useful. It's closed to public submissions.

Opti 2004-06-14 02:57 PM

Are these hefty sites a secret Eman?

C'mon spill the info ;-)

nastysurfers 2004-06-14 03:00 PM

The point of this thread is that I don't want to miss out on hefty and useful link sites. Tell us what they are and you will receive your heavenly reward.

|buddy|

eman 2004-06-14 03:22 PM

Nobody's mentioned DD, PSL, LF ...

nastysurfers 2004-06-14 04:19 PM

DD would be Danger Dave. I've submitted multiple sites there and never been listed. |pissed|

If PSL is premium sex links, I do submit there and find them ok for quantity of traffic but not in the same league as the others mentioned. Also, half the time the verification code you have to enter doesn't load, and they don't answer me when I email them about it. |angry|

If LF is Link Fabulous I also put them in the "ok" category, at least in my experience. I submit all my sites to them but am not getting huge traffic back.

Trax 2004-06-14 05:57 PM

my new LL is gonna rock |afro|

Tino 2004-06-14 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linkster
One thing you might try that has worked well for me back when I was submitting a lot - check the LLs on Google for your niche and pick the ones that rank well - not only does it help in the long run for your sites' ranking eventually, but its a pretty good bet that the LL is going to have pretty targetted traffic for that niche - and I can guarantee that SE traffic that has been filtered to a niche is golden compared to thousands of hits from non-targetted traffic
Thats a nice tip. Ive been doing that for a long time. Thought I was the only one doing it:-P

Except I do a search for the name of the freesite im gonna make- and submit to the top results(that are LL).

spacemanspiff 2004-06-14 08:09 PM

debauchery.com and freepicssex.com both have a lot of category pages targeting a lot of different niches that are doing really well on Google. |waves|

dareutwo 2004-06-14 11:52 PM

If you want Traffic, simply submit to the biggies.
If you want Sales, submit to as many LL's as you have time for. (ie, I have 2 hours per day to simply submit, by hand of course, how fast is my connection and how many can I submit too?)

Most sponsors have URL tracking, so don't worry about which site made the sale, you'll be able to see. Don't count on seeing asmallerlinklist.com in your sales stats often, but don't be surprised when the ratio is under 1:50.

grzepa 2004-06-15 04:49 AM

I have to agree with Linkster - I was doing this serp testing for some time :) Since 3/4 of my sites I built are lesbians I gotta love LOR with its #1 for "lesbian sex" :)

Jay sends loads of quality traffic, but I think I'd do even better with him if I'll get there more reality sites.

+ I have to agree with dareutwo - I was surprised that many of my sales are coming from doorway pages with LL's I never thought I'll get any signups from.

Also I think the time each LL is online is an important factor...
If a LL is active from 1996 till now It have to be great.... like freepicsex, smutgremlins etc. etc. etc.

Mateusz 2004-06-15 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dareutwo
If you want Traffic, simply submit to the biggies.
If you want Sales, submit to as many LL's as you have time for.

Exackly! The reason is pretty obvious.. at the big LL the traffic comes mostly from horny bookmarkers and trades but at small LL the surfer most likely found his link at google subpage# 323 - so he is VERY patiend and he knows what exackly he is looking for (he surely checked top 25 links at google. He must has found some free porn there but he is still loking for stuff he got on mind...

neo-gel 2004-06-15 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dareutwo
If you want Traffic, simply submit to the biggies.
If you want Sales, submit to as many LL's as you have time for. (ie, I have 2 hours per day to simply submit, by hand of course, how fast is my connection and how many can I submit too?)

Most sponsors have URL tracking, so don't worry about which site made the sale, you'll be able to see. Don't count on seeing asmallerlinklist.com in your sales stats often, but don't be surprised when the ratio is under 1:50.


dareutwo,

Could you list some of the sponsors that have stats good enough to track where hits are coming from.

Do these sponsors allow you to track which site actually sent the hit?

I've personally never seen one one that could do this. The best I've seen could let me know the refer of the hits. But not the actual sales. This can be helpful with TGP galleries.

How would you structure a freesite to be able to track where the sales came from? I would imagine most of the sales come from the galleries or the main page. As a result the referer data wouldn't be much help in tracking down the source of the sale.

grzepa 2004-06-15 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by neo-gel
dareutwo,
How would you structure a freesite to be able to track where the sales came from? I would imagine most of the sales come from the galleries or the main page. As a result the referer data wouldn't be much help in tracking down the source of the sale.

Well as far as I know the most sales in my (and not only my) case
are done from index page... so if its a doorway lets say warning.html you know what recip links to what LL's you have there...

Kezza 2004-06-15 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastysurfers
If PSL is premium sex links, I do submit there and find them ok for quantity of traffic but not in the same league as the others mentioned. Also, half the time the verification code you have to enter doesn't load, and they don't answer me when I email them about it. |angry|

If LF is Link Fabulous I also put them in the "ok" category, at least in my experience. I submit all my sites to them but am not getting huge traffic back.

Hi Nastysurfers,

Marker from http://www.premium-sex-links.com has had a nasty drive crash the last couple of days and is in the process of re-installing :( so... he has asked me if I could reply to this for him.

The verification code needs to have cookies enabled to show. Mark has received a total of 4 webmasters email him about this and has sent detailed responses to them. In fact the cookie issue was the problem for 3 of them, and the 4th is a mystery :( Maybe your email has been mixed up with spam or something. But please be rest assured all emails are responded to :) Maybe you could try sending him a private message here... I know he does get those emails.

Another tip with that code on PSL and LF is there are no numbes there... just letters, so O's are not Zeros.

BTW Link Fab may not send masses of traffic... but all those surfers are groovers :D And any submissions will remain in the list for the life of the site, assuming the sites do not go to 404's redirects etc.

Chop Smith 2004-06-15 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dareutwo
Don't count on seeing asmallerlinklist.com in your sales stats often, but don't be surprised when the ratio is under 1:50.
I agree! Based on a test I ran on TGP's a couple of years ago, I think that asmallerlinklist.com's traffic will come from SE's. So in theory their traffic should be a better quality.

One other thing, remember the important thing is the bottom line so when analyzing your stats compare your sales with your bandwidth cost.

Jaden 2004-06-18 10:06 PM

I would have to agree with what Cleo said earlier as well about trial and error. It has taken me over a year now to get my list of LL's that I submit each and every site to, including a bunch of smaller ones that may not have the volume of traffic, but that I know I have made sales from.

I also have, over the course of time, dropped a couple of the bigger LL's because the hoops I have had to jump through to keep submitting just didn't bear out through my stats, and added other ones and been pleasantly surprised at the productivity.

I would think there are too many variables and variations in the way someone puts a site together to be able to make it all black and white

druid66 2004-06-19 06:31 AM

back to Your thread:

Hasudam mentioned www.persiankitty.com, if you looking for best traffic it is probably there - You can submit only 3 times per month but it's worthy Your time. Bad thing in PK is Your links must be removed before You post new one. LL's normally keep Your links for a long time, such LL's which is the best (for me) is: Link-o-Rama, PenisBot, WetPlace - their traffic is also great.
goodluck:)


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