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Toby 2006-01-26 01:28 PM

Am I right to be pissed?
 
I rec'd an email this morning from a sponsor (independent CCBill solo girl site) with links to zips of new promo content, images, thumbs & gallery template, obviously for TGP submission. After downloading a few I opened them to check out the photo sets to find that the large images are under 600 pixels on the long side. So, I send the sponsor an email...

Quote:

Originally Posted by me to sponsor
Thanks for the new content, but just an FYI. Many TGP's have a minimum of 600 pixels for the long side for full size images. I can certainly appreciate protecting your exclusive content, but as they are the sets are essentially useless to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponsor's reply
no problem toby

i cant please every one....tried that once didnt work :)

What would be your next move?

Tommy 2006-01-26 01:30 PM

my next move would be to delete the emails and move on

selena 2006-01-26 01:36 PM

It depends.

If it wasn't a sponsor I really cared to promote, I'd do as Tommy said.

If it was something that was converting really well for me, I'd just open the images in photoshop and make them bigger.

plateman 2006-01-26 01:39 PM

seems more and more single model sites are getting more agressive in pushing there programs... probably all those cam girls who have ruined yahoo chat and others with all there BS is stepping into there own site and affiliate program... blood and money suckers who cant respect the way things should be handled..

docholly 2006-01-26 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plateman
seems more and more single model sites are getting more agressive in pushing there programs... probably all those cam girls who have ruined yahoo chat and others with all there BS is stepping into there own site and affiliate program... blood and money suckers who cant respect the way things should be handled..


no self respecting cam girl would be caught dead in yahoo chat!!

Toby: Selena is quite right..if it is someone who is converting well for you, i'd check my sales for the last 6-12 months with them and send a reply that says.. in the last xxx months i've sent you xxx $ in sales (or number) but I cannot continue to send you traffic if you can't send me content to use. etc etc..

MOST solo site girls are pretty willing to accommodate their affiliates that have sent sales in the past.

of course there are a few who are really run by WM posing as single site girls that thing THEY are all that.

Good luck.. |roses|

Toby 2006-01-26 01:50 PM

The sponsor had converted OK for me at times, but not great lately. Prior promo content, although very limited, were standard hi-res images. This is a well established site and sponsor program, not some new babe without a clue.

I'm not going to bother with a reply, nothing to gain at this point. I've pulled all of the links from my sites, lots of other sponsors out there to promote. I've just never had a sponsor that obviously didn't care if I sent traffic or not.

AdorableAudrey 2006-01-26 01:52 PM

At least she sent a smilie. LOL... Actually, that is probably pretty rude, but you did say it was a small site and if the webgirl answered you herself, she may have just finished answering 10 rude fanmails, and you didn't come right out and ask directly if she could supply you with larger images. She may have taken it more as a criticism than a request.

Just another way of looking at it...people do say I am WAY to forgiving, so I wouldn't be surprised or blame you if you moved on... |huh

Useless 2006-01-26 01:55 PM

I got the email from that redheaded pantyhose model too. I did the same thing. Downloaded a few, unzipped, and deleted. Then I deleted the email. I brushed it off as just another amateur with a great body and zero knowledge of adult marketing. But reading her reply to you pisses me off. "i cant please every one....tried that once didnt work" What the fuck is that? So, I guess she's not going to bother to please anyone now, eh. Fuck her.

Toby 2006-01-26 02:04 PM

Docholly, my experience with solo girl sites has been as you mentioned. Most have gone out of their way to get me anything I needed. Some have even given me a pass to their sites so I can select my own promo content from their member area galleries.

Audrey, as solo girl sites go, this one is quite large and has been around a long time. I was dealing with her husband, who manages the site and sent out the initial email this morning. I suppose he could just be having a bad day, which is why I haven't named the site.

UW, |thumb

AdorableAudrey 2006-01-26 02:18 PM

LOL...I told you I was too forgiving! Actually I was typing up my response still when you posted more information about the situation. I totally agree that the response sucked, I just also had a twinge of sympathy as a solo girl because I know it really is impossible to please everyone. Just feels like everyone wants a piece of you some days...still no excuse to be rude to the people who are supporting and promoting you.

cosmiccat 2006-01-26 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy
my next move would be to delete the emails and move on

That's what I would do. Too many sponsors out there willing to please.

Greenguy 2006-01-26 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plateman
seems more and more single model sites are getting more agressive in pushing there programs... probably all those cam girls who have ruined yahoo chat and others with all there BS is stepping into there own site and affiliate program... blood and money suckers who cant respect the way things should be handled..

What color is the sky in your world?

This thread is an example of someone aggressively pushing their program?

Solo amateur sites have been around forever - they are not the "blood & money suckers" that you refer to - a vast majority of the new "solo girl" sites that have come out in the last few years are run by big programs & are NOT amateur sites.

*****

Back to the thread at hand, their reply sound like the one we got from AVN about Vegas :D

Halfdeck 2006-01-26 03:05 PM

If I was the sponsor, I would have emailed back a url where you could download 600+ wide versions of the same set...or at least explain why I prefer not to distribute higher rez pics to my affiliates. "tried that once didn't work" -- frankly, that one of the most unprofessional responses from a sponsor I ever heard.

plateman 2006-01-26 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy
What color is the sky in your world?

This thread is an example of someone aggressively pushing their program?

Solo amateur sites have been around forever - they are not the "blood & money suckers" that you refer to - a vast majority of the new "solo girl" sites that have come out in the last few years are run by big programs & are NOT amateur sites.

*****

Back to the thread at hand, their reply sound like the one we got from AVN about Vegas :D

oh my bad I thought he got spamed, I was not refering to the cam girls that are members of the board

ecchi 2006-01-26 03:24 PM

Most of the TGP sites that bother with the "minimum 600 pixels" rule also have a "no sponsor's content" rule, so I don't see how it matters.

Ramster 2006-01-26 03:36 PM

Simple, tell them to fuck off. Well not actually tell them but simply promote someone else. What kind of response is that? Screw them!

And I am serious.

Toby 2006-01-26 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecchi
Most of the TGP sites that bother with the "minimum 600 pixels" rule also have a "no sponsor's content" rule, so I don't see how it matters.

ecchi, obviously you don't promote any independent single girl sites. You can't use purchased content to promote them. Those kinds of sites are all about that one girl/babe/milf. Using purchased content would be like using pics of bicycles to sell pianos.

ecchi 2006-01-26 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby
ecchi, obviously you don't promote any independent single girl sites. You can't use purchased content to promote them. The site is all about that one girl/babe/milf. Using purchased content would be like using pics of bicycles to sell pianos.

Yup you are correct I don't, for the same reason you say. However I still cannot see how it is a cost effective use of your time to push a site on TGP's that allow sponsor content but ban pics under 600 px.

Toby 2006-01-26 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecchi
Yup you are correct I don't, for the same reason you say. However I still cannot see how it is a cost effective use of your time to push a site on TGP's that allow sponsor content but ban pics under 600 px.

I make a fair living doing just exactly that.

Tommy 2006-01-26 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby
as solo girl sites go, this one is quite large and has been around a long time. I was dealing with her husband, who manages the site and sent out the initial email this morning. I suppose he could just be having a bad day, which is why I haven't named the site.

ahhh.....I know who this is, any dealings I have had with the husband often seem cold and unfriendly but I think its just his personality

a long time ago Greenie was like that to :-)

ecchi 2006-01-26 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby
I make a fair living doing just exactly that.

I'm impressed. Either you are a brilliant salesman or she is an amazingly attractive woman (or both).

Remind me to look at your galleries and rip off your ideas. :)

Toby 2006-01-26 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecchi
I'm impressed. Either you are a brilliant salesman or she is an amazingly attractive woman (or both).

Remind me to look at your galleries and rip off your ideas. :)

I promote MANY solo girl sites, not just one. My combined conversion ratio for last year was 1:584, not bad on TGP traffic. :D

www.bevyofbabes.com
www.well-heeled-women.com
www.babes-in-boots.com

Greenguy 2006-01-26 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy
...a long time ago Greenie was like that to :-)

I'm still cold & unfriendly :D

I bet the reason that they don't send out bigger pics is that too many webmasters complained when they were putting up decent sized pics, because they had to compress/resize them...and to those webmasters, I say "Go find another 2nd job!" Resizing pics is part of making sites & this is what happens when you listen to lazy webmasters.

tickler 2006-01-26 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby
I make a fair living doing just exactly that.

Yeah, there are a lot of solo girl sites around, but, since they don't get a lot of exposure you just have to look for them a little harder.

I run into the same TGP rules also with "reality" sites with exclusive content.

Torn Rose 2006-01-26 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy
I bet the reason that they don't send out bigger pics is that too many webmasters complained when they were putting up decent sized pics, because they had to compress/resize them...

Or it could be they are just assholes who think they are better then everyone else?|huh


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