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matt 2003-10-02 04:05 AM

"Young"
 
When submitting freesites is it ok to use the word "young" in the title, description and promotions?

I've been keeping away from it up until now, but I pretty much think "young blonde" is ok, "young teen" is not and "young girl" is kind of borderline.

What do you think?

Jeremy 2003-10-02 04:49 AM

Hehehe matt - I think this discussion rears it's head once a month or so.

A few people seem to be completely against any use of the word young, some people don't appear to mind too much, and for what seems like the majority of others, it's pretty much dependent on the context - much as you've outlined below.

Wazza 2003-10-02 04:51 AM

Agree - agree - disagree - I think you should avoid young girl as well...

College girl, coed, or teen all achieve the same meaning without having to reinforce it with young imo...

Linkster 2003-10-02 05:53 AM

If I see the word young in a submit I will usually be very particular on what I will list. The context will definitely make the difference

matt 2003-10-02 05:57 AM

Jeremy - Yeah, I know :)

Wazza - I usually steer clear of it, but the reason I asked is because there's a nice site I'm about to start promoting that's got young in the title.


Thanks for the replys :)

Surfn 2003-10-02 07:56 AM

matt

It's your site do what you want with it. Just remember that many of the LL's are controlled by their billing processors and they won't pay if the word is used to sell. Plus here in the states they fear legal reprisals as well.

Cleo 2003-10-02 08:02 AM

I actually prefer "Young Ladies" over "Teens."

That being said it is an instant decline for "young girl," "young teen" and a bunch of other combos using the word young.

jennym 2003-10-02 08:17 AM

I'm with Cleo on this one. I prefer "young ladies", or "young woman". "Young girls and "young teens" get tossed.

Greenguy 2003-10-02 09:23 AM

As soon as I find a few hours to do it, I will be removing the word "young" from all my links - I'm thinking of replacing it with "18-19 year old"

MrMaryLou 2003-10-02 10:52 AM

The word young alone is harmless but its the abuse of the word that makes me perk up when I see it :(

RawAlex 2003-10-02 11:39 AM

It's like a double negative...

Usual math: If teen is 13 to 19, young teen must be 13 - 15 (mature teen being 18-19, I guess).

Young by itself (as in young wife, young teacher, young amateur) doesn't really ring bells. Combine it with the wrong words (as in young teen, young schoolgirl, young girl) and you have an issue.

It's sort of like non-nude teens. Although a 19 year old girl can be "non-nude", in the end, non-nude is a KP trigger word for those "molly model" type sites featuring 14 and 15 year olds in sexy poses. YES, a 19 year old non-nude is legal... but that ain't the issue!

While the content might be legal, and all the girls over 18, using those terms I think is pandering to pedophiles. Yes, you will get a bunch of traffic, but I suspect you won't get sales because you don't have what they are looking for.

When I find them in listings or in sites I built in the past, I fix them or remove the listings.

Alex

urb 2003-10-03 06:15 AM

I personally don't like teen stuff.
(Give me mature or bbw any day of the week!) :D

But the Internet is like the wild west without a sherrif - so you have to make your own choice.

Correct me if I am wrong, but girls only have to be 16 to appear in British newspapers topless. |sad|

Cleo 2003-10-03 07:53 AM

There is the problem, it is called the world wide web for a reason, laws are different everywhere.

Since I'm in America I go with the law here, not that I think turning 18 makes anyone magically able to deal with adult subjects any better.

Jeremy 2003-10-03 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by urb
Correct me if I am wrong, but girls only have to be 16 to appear in British newspapers topless. |sad|
You're not wrong - but the parent's / guardians have to sign the model release since they're not old enough to commit to a legal contract.... which always strikes me as a trifle bizarre.

It may just be a newspaper thing here in the UK, since you don't see it in mags or on the web.

Greenguy 2003-10-03 09:03 AM

Silly, silly Brits :D

DangerDave 2003-10-03 09:55 AM

Maybe 16 year old boobs are "news" in the UK:)

DD

Cleo 2003-10-03 10:01 AM

When I think of the UK I think of Monty Python and Benny Hill in drag. :D

Jeremy 2003-10-03 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
Silly, silly Brits :D
Hehe - one of the political parties over here wants to lower the age at which you can buy stuff from sex shops down to 16. It makes a modicum of sense when you consider you can have sex at 16 but can't buy material related to it until you're 18.....

BTW - I did a bit of hunting and it appears that you can model nude at 16, but full-frontal nudity is not allowed until you're 18. Hence the 16 year olds who have appeared topless in our best-selling daily newspapers in the past, but not anywhere else.

Surfn 2003-10-03 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeremy
Hehe - one of the political parties over here wants to lower the age at which you can buy stuff from sex shops down to 16. It makes a modicum of sense when you consider you can have sex at 16 but can't buy material related to it until you're 18.....
When I lived in the Soho area it was pretty much wide open, illegal, but wide open none the less |rasta|

RawAlex 2003-10-03 10:53 AM

Since most of the billing for major sites is done in the US, and the US says "age 18, 2257 blah blah blah", that is the standard that we apply.

No matter what YOUR local laws are, I know what mine are, so getting listed on my site means following my local laws. I don't want to end up in the pokey because of anyone else's sites... my own are enough. :-)

Alex

urb 2003-10-03 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawAlex
Since most of the billing for major sites is done in the US, and the US says "age 18, 2257 blah blah blah", that is the standard that we apply.

No matter what YOUR local laws are, I know what mine are, so getting listed on my site means following my local laws. I don't want to end up in the pokey because of anyone else's sites... my own are enough. :-)

Alex is right. The benchmark for the Internet is the USA.

But the benchmark for comedy has to be the UK. :D

RawAlex 2003-10-03 02:48 PM

A little reverse on this one...

while doing reviews today, I ran into a whole pile of "mature woman and young boy" sites... they are all eastern euro sites featuring mid age women and skinny boys. I suspect that all the models are over 18, but the implication is enough for me to reject them.

Pandering to pedophiles isn't any better than being one, I think.

Alex

Cleo 2003-10-03 02:59 PM

I've been hitting decline on those as well.

I don't care if the models are ninety years old, they look too young.

Linkster 2003-10-03 03:39 PM

been seeing a huge increase in that niche as well...unfortunate that people go down the "pandering" route instead of marketing them a different way - college freshmen with the deans wife type thing instead of the older woman/young boy theme...it sure looks like it would sell to the college crowd :)

jennym 2003-10-03 03:45 PM

I declined one of those this morning myself. I have declined some in the past because the guys looked to young. The one this morning was borderline. I MAY have listed the site, except all the banners said "Mature women with young boys". That got the delete button immediately.


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