Promote AVS sites
 

I was wondering if tgp or mgp sites hate galleries promoting AVS sites??? I am about to start doing movie galleries, did a bit of research and was wondering....how much off a differences in amount of traffic can u get doing a 3vid gallery 1MB each vs a 6vid gallery 500kb each? Is neither one more preferable?? With 3vid u get quality over quatity, with 6vids u get quatity over quality personally which would u prefer?? is 500kb a vid acceptable or 700kb would be better?? I also noticed that there are BIG MGP sites...sites that only list vid galleries with big movie clips. Are those kinda site running with about the same amount of traffic as the normal mgp sites??

I have never heard of a TGP of MGP that refused a gallery simply because it was promoting an AVS site . . . it is done all the time . . . and sites like Shemp, Richards-Realm, PersianKitty, thehun all accept galleries promoting AVS sites

We don't accept AVS sites on our TGP.

Some sites dont like you promoting free AVS' (lolitampegs springs to mind).

Of the two movie formats I think 3 x 1mb may be more beneficial.

But do you accept GALLERIES which advertise AVS sites?

No, we don't accept AVS promotion.

What's the point of that? What do you gain?...

I don't like AVS sites. The people who own sites on an AVS usually have rudimentary skills and probably shouldn't be in the porn business.

That's an interesting point of view. Care to elaborate? Are you referring to owners of AVS systems, or of individual AVS sites? (I've found the two are often used interchangeably.)

lol enjoying that crack tonight are we lol

I'd say most gallery builders have rudimentary skills, from what I've seen. ;p

When I think of AVS, I think of Adultbouncer/Deluxepass. I know there are other AVS systems that support the small pornographer.
I choose my sponsors based on different variables. The largest variable is content. AB/DP content is all major studio content given to a number of webmasters by the owner of the AVS to promote the AVS. This is corporate sytle porn, and I don't like it. I think it's dangerous for the small pornographer who pays to create content. I think it's bad for the adult business overall. It's like setting up MacDonalds on every crossroad of the internet. I won't help promote it.

BlueQuartz, your comment is ambiguous. Did you have a point or are you just trying to flame?

Dag, most of the galleries/free sites I see a pretty decent. Besides it's more complicated than my earlier statement about webdesign.

ambigious? sorry let me clear it up

your comment about most avs builders only having rudimentary skills is, IMHO, complete and utter bullshit


hope any ambiguity has been removed

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Seriously though Blue, my attitude about AVS is more about the corporatization of the business than anything. I stated that in the last post. I have seen many sites that seem decent. It's a drag to see AVS making tons of money just passing out content and offering hosting when there are tons of content producers who make sites and offer a unique product only to have to compete againt the AVS model.

Ok, well that comment irked me a little because
1. I have only rudimentary design and marketing skills;
2. I build AVS sites and
3. I like it here. :)

So I won't go away. But I won't bother submitting any galleries to your TGP. Which one is it?

Dag, it's not my intention to irk you however you asked a question. If you don't like the reply so be it. Some people, myself included spend thousands of dollars producing content, paying hosting fees, writing backends and designing sites, running sponsor programs, promoting sponors, making galleries and free hosted sites etc... I gave you the reasons I don't support AVS systems.
Don't worry about our TGP it's partner only so you it's not likely you would be submitting to it anyhow.

Irked. Past tense.

I'm fine now. :)

Phew ok :)

Huh?! Assuming (I have no choice here as you only provided two examples) you have no knowledge of AVS/AEN sites outside your limited scope of experiences, this is a topic you probably should stay out of.

Your thinking that people that build AVS sites are flatulent in the ability to design/code a decent HTML page is pretty bold, if not completely unfounded.

To pick nits... Your new affiliate proggy/site needs some serious work. It's in beta? Why? It isn't even close to complete. Your BizoPorn site's warning page is almost unreadable. While the "flower power" theme is nifty, there is no sell going on. There is no hard pitch, no closer. Basically, you're burning bandwidth IMO.

Now, AVS == Corporate Porn?
Umm, get a clue. Porn has been corporate for longer than you likely have been on the web. Doubt me? Ask Ron Levy and Serge and even GG. If you are an affiliate of ANY program you are in effect part of a corporate machine.

Let's get back to AVS though... It would seem to me, and you are free to clarify, that you really don't know squat about the AVS market. True, there are outfits that shove their own overused content at their affiliates and their networks suck ass (their 4th Qtr earnings likely will decry the same). However, there are dozens of good AVS/AEN systems out there that are seriously viable.
Perhaps you haven't investigated (sorry, I'm making assumptions because you have only thrown out unfounded derogatory rhetoric) just how lucrative the AVS scene can be if worked properly. AVS traffic is Targetted traffic. AVS surfers have already whipped out their CC once - that's a huge marketing advantage. AVS surfers generally know what they are looking for, another advantage as they are self targetting. Unless the interweb has drastically changed within the past 30 seconds, I believe that qualifies them as the #2 top traffic source on the planet just behind SearchEngine traffic.
As to AVS webmasters lacking HTML/design skills you would be best to do some research before spouting off. Yes, there are shit AVS sites - as there are shit Freesites and Galleries. In the same light, the sites of whatever category that make bank are those that are built to market their wares. If you think AVS sites are all shit I'll be happy to send you all my denied freesite submissions I review.

Bottom Line: If you know AVS you can make bank, serious bank. If you know Freesites you can make equal bank, and if you really know TGP you can make equal bank on galleries. Get off your high-horse.
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I have a tiny penis, and her name is Mary. :)

Galleries promoting avs sites are fine but the problem is the way some promote them as in the free join type avs which would be an issue at some tgps as in misleading the surfer I know that is a big one on Richard Realm TGP :)

excellent response venturi - we see what happenes when people start shooting their mouth off about things they clearly know NOTHING about


peace out

Holy kungpao pussy! I don't think I've ever seen Venturi write angry. Goodness. NOT to gang up on Gunncat, but I've got to agree with the venting Venturi. I don't see any difference in the level of talent between gallery/free site builders and that of AVS site builders. I'd bet you could find a great many AVS sites listed somewhere as a free site since, I'm told, many free site builders make copies of their sites to list them with AVS's. Personally, I'm blame George Bush.