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MadMax 2005-06-06 06:19 PM

Suggestions On What To Do With This Fuckwad
 
This was a tossup between posting it here and in "cheaters," but I decided it would be better here. I was checking the G results for "fetishphiles" today and I found a bunch of pages belonging to some fuckwad who pastes a bunch of G search results as text into his pages.

Examples
http://lesbian-dildo-training.femlessexo.com/
http://extreme-anal.staravatd.net/
http://sexo-masturbacion.eksuziw.net/

Is it worth my time and trouble to fuck with this guy, and if so what do you suggest as the best course of action?

Bill 2005-06-06 06:30 PM

I doubt there is anything that can be done.

He's not using your copyrighted material to the point where you can effectively claim infringement.

Not that copyright claims always work out well with google, anyway.

DangerDave 2005-06-06 06:43 PM

I would disagree with Bill... :)

http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html


http://www.google.com/search?num=50&...et&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?num=50&...om&btnG=Search


Misleading or repeated words
Doorway pages
Duplicate site or pages
etc

DD

MadMax 2005-06-06 07:19 PM

Thanks DD |thumb

Bill 2005-06-06 08:22 PM

It would be interesting to see if it worked.

Since it's using googles serps as text, it's possible that google would react more quickly than they usually do to "spam reports".

I know Dave believes in the spam report page. And hell, what can you lose?

I don't believe in the spam report page personally. I don't think it works for adult related requests. I think google ignores all adult related spam reports and most other adult related complaints, unless forced to act by DMCA filings.

But, it's the only tool available, so you might as well try it.

I used to report spam using that method, never saw any measurable result, and gave up.

SEO_Konsul 2005-06-07 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerDave
I would disagree with Bill... :)

http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html


http://www.google.com/search?num=50&...et&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?num=50&...om&btnG=Search


Misleading or repeated words
Doorway pages
Duplicate site or pages
etc

DD

I do agree with DangerDove |thumb

Ledfish 2005-06-11 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill
It would be interesting to see if it worked.

Since it's using googles serps as text, it's possible that google would react more quickly than they usually do to "spam reports".

I know Dave believes in the spam report page. And hell, what can you lose?

I don't believe in the spam report page personally. I don't think it works for adult related requests. I think google ignores all adult related spam reports and most other adult related complaints, unless forced to act by DMCA filings.

But, it's the only tool available, so you might as well try it.

I used to report spam using that method, never saw any measurable result, and gave up.


Bill, although I do wonder if Google has any interest in adult realted spam reports, site problems, etc. But from what I have heard, a spam report that is not adult related related does not do much either. Most people say that google uses spam complaints for engineering purposes to try and design future algo changes that will detect and penalize for things such as hidden text, hidden links,cloaking, etc, etc......but that they do not take specific action against individual sites unless it is something very very serious. (I personally have never heard of even a very very serious case that was acted upon)

Bill 2005-06-11 11:01 AM

Ledfish, in general, that's been my position, and it has definitely been my experience.

But, Dave and I were discussing this a bit, and while I think we both agree that it's difficult if not impossible to _prove_ that the spamreport works, he has convinced me that it _might work_.

Which took a bit of convincing... ;-}

I still have my reservations, and I think Dave has special techniques and approaches that make spamreport more effective.

I'm still rather skeptical that a spamreport would work for the page Max found, unless Max can prove that it is part of a massive spam campaign.

But, in the past I have been a massive unbeliever in the value of a spamreport. I had good reasons for thinking so, which I can lay out point by point.

Now, while I still have no proof that it definitely works, and I still doubt that it works for many types of small scale spam, I accept Dave's evidence that it can work sometimes.

Linkster 2005-06-12 07:31 AM

I would definitely report these - at least two are the same guy and the third is probably the same person - adjacent IPs on hqhost and all registered around the same time - of course the only problem with these type of spammers - they do it all by scripts that only take a few minutes to generate and post all these pages (there's about 8000 total between the domains) and they have 31 other domains like this - Google will normally run with this type and get them taken down pretty quickly

Bill 2005-06-12 02:37 PM

Linkster, let me ask you a theoretical question...

Let's say someone doesn't have your "magic whois powers" (ha ha) and doesn't take the time to uncover this particular spammers larger network of pages.

And that person just spamreports this single page.

Not the guys whole network, his domains,his host, his dns, his 8000 script generated pages...

Do you think google will think enough of the single page spam report to track down the spammers whole network and drop it from the results?

Linkster 2005-06-12 06:30 PM

Bill - I would say that thye probably would put it on the backburner unless theyve gotten their magical auto-whois tool working yet as they have become a registrar with access to the whole database :)


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