Greenguy closed my question about jays links tread...
 

Too bad...I guess all of you people that have questions about getting listed in one of the top linklists need to look elsewhere.

GG - that was really petty IMO, but it's your world we are just living in it.

Jay
I knew it had to be coming. Everytime we moved one of your announcements to the proper forum we heard about your thread having the most views and replies on our board. To tell you the truth, I was sick of getting my nose rubbed in it too.

And, you did claim that Wasted Webmasters was your new home almost a year ago. Again, a slap in the face.

As for moving announcements...I really don't get it. We have had the rule that only sponsors place announcements on the main forum and you still posted yours there. When we moved it, you always acted surprised as if it were something new.

Jay - you've bitched about the "politics" of this board for about 8 or 10 months now & I'm really surprised that you still post here at all, seeing as you obviously don't like the way the board is managed.

Plus, I think you'd agree it makes more sense for you to have your Link Lists Q & A stuff over here:
http://www.wastedwebmasters.com/forumdisplay.php?f=28

I know I'd feel kinda silly if I had my "not listed" thread on Wasted Webmasters instead of here on the board that I moderate.

I'll put a link up in the closed thread telling people where to find you :)

Wow, I didn't know Jay had a thread like that on Wasted Webmasters. No harm done then.

Well, I'm not into your relationships with Jay but to be honest I don't read WastedWebamaster forum and this thread (I'm talking 'bout getting listed at jaysxxx) was pretty usefull (I think not only for me as it wasn't definately dead thread)
I do love this board becouse most LL owners hang around here so I dont need to visit any other places so I dont really understand this move.

Just my 2 cents
(and again, I'm talking only about 'getting listed at jaysxxx official thread')

my 2 cents in the linksites i review there is an message in the email that if webmasters have questions they can ask on wastedwebmasters board, that the reason why i dont wanna have the same thread here, and lucky my boss understands that, if webmasters read their rejection email(if they get one and i send one at some linksites) then they know where to find the thread...in my case(if i write that right) the wastedwebmasters board...hey i am just an reviewer ad i do my work good but i may have my own opinion :D where is that smilie with the tongue thing

I understand link list owners/reviewers who what to answer that questions on their own (or at least their favorite boards) but this case is opposite - Jay wants (well.. at least as i understand it so) to have his thread here despite he owns another board

no he has the same thread on his own board......... stu hiding and ducking now :D oke just my own opinion but if i have an own board with the same thread why should i have that thraed also on an other board? dont you want your own board to rock? and i would be getting tired to keep my eye on 2 boards, btw i already do that 3 boards and i dont even have the same threads........Stu<--- thinking i shold keep out of ths but then she is to stubburn and like to tell how she thinks ..sorry

GG and Jim - I've always loved this board, moving to Wasted Webmasters was a knee-jerk reaction to the drama of 10 months ago...I figured I'd slowly start posting over hear again and try to bury the hatchet, but clearly you guys still want to hold a grudge.

The only reason I ever brought up that thread was to point out the number of people I've reffered to you guys just to get listed on Jays - I don't see how you can hate me for that. Its silly really really.

Truth is I want to be a paying advertiser over here because I know you are cool, but my partners think you are dicks and they refuse to spend money with you guys.

You get more with sugar than you do vinigar. I don't really give a fuck about WW and if you don't want me here...I'll split too.

I would rather just bury the hatchet, but - like I said - it is your world -- I just live in it.

Jay - there's no grudge - we treat you the same as we treat every other poster on the board.

You know the rules, yet every time you have something about OC Cash to post, you stick it on the main board. We then move it to where it's supposed to be & you bitch about it.

And yeah - we are dicks. Fuck me for thinking that you telling me that you're going to take out ads (not me or Jim soliciting you - YOU approaching me in the lobby down in Miami) and us letting you act & post as an advertiser & then you never taking out any advertising - yeah - we're real big dicks for thinking you'd follow thru with what you said you were going to do.

Post here or don't post here - I really don't care.

You boss thinks we're dicks? Fine - all my OC Cash links will be down tomorrow - why should I do business with a company that doesn't like me?

I still consider you a friend, but I equate what you do on this board to me asking for 90% payouts from OC Cash & then bitching in public because you said no (and I'd never ask for an increased payout anyway, so maybe that's a bad example)

LOL - please chill here bro. I insisted that you guys are straight up, my partners don't know you at all, yes there was some confusion on behalf of both of us -- it's old news and I'm over it - I really am.

I said it before and I'll say it again - I am sorry we posted our 2257 announcement on the main board -- I should have just posted the statemnt and left our name off of it I guess.

Everyone is so scared of this 2257 shit and I just wanted to reassure people that things are not as bad as they look.

Yeah, I was angry with you guys for a while and that was the purpose of starting WW, but I really am over it - I really am.

This is just backpaddling - I've been trying to make inroads with you guys again and post more - and would like to contnue doing so.

We have a budget now, we'll buy ads - no problem - we just need to cool it on all of this hostility.

That isn't being fair - that was in August - the program didn't open till 3 months behind schedule and we didn't have money to even buy ads till 3 or 4 months ago. We always were are are a potential advertiser.

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=10458

Posted by you 3 weeks after Miami on the main board, where we left it because you were gonna take out ads.

Tell your bosses to enjoy all the free advertising they got from the dicks |waves|

I don't care for being called a dick myself. There was a huge mixup on advertising that Jay, myself and his bosses talked about and I had thought were ironed out. But, when I saw advertising on GFY and not here, I guess we didn't.

Jay, I have to tell you that in person, you are a great guy. On the boards, not so much. This is what is being spoken in private and not just my own opinion.

OK, I agree. The GFY thing was never my idea and I still am still am against. It hasn't done shit to help us.

I know you guys are not dicks at all - that was the first time my "bosses" had dealt with you and therefore was their first impression.

Can we just dop all of this old shit and move on?

Yes, but we didn't wind up opening till Nov 15th...how can we advertise for a program that isn't open yet?

Then you lost your temper with us, blasted us, and I walked away for a while -- and now I am trying to make nice again and we keep beating this dead horse.

I've been in this business long enough and I can provide a lot of input to a lot of thing that have nothing to do with OCCash (shit I'll even take it out of my sig if you want) -- you both know I do a lot more than run an affilaite program.

Using that other board for advertising myself, I could have told you it wasn't worth shit.

I am OK with you Jay, your problem is with Greenie.

You know what Jay? We are assholes for trusting that you & OC Cash would follow thru on a verbal commitment for advertising. We really are "dicks".

Here's what you guys got for free:
Ready For OCCash V2 Beta Testers! - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=10458 - 8/24/04
OCCash Still Needs A Few New Beta Testers - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=11600 - 9/27/04
Give me you opinion on this site - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=11629 - 9/28/04
Based on advice from this board - new free hosted sites - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=11887 - 10/6/04
this could be the best selling gay site of all time - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=12097 - 10/12/04
OCCash V2 is now open to the public! - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=12230 - 10/15/04
AVN Features OCCash - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=12297 - 10/16/04

52 days of free advertising by my count.

Plus, I look like an ass to Jim because I'm the one that convinced him it was ok to let you do this because you told me you were going to take out ads (and part of the reason I don't handle any of the ads anymore - me & my trusting dick of a self)

Make sure you show this thread to your bosses so that they can see what big dicks we really are - and enjoy all the affiliates you got from the board, because we all know that a lot of people signed up just because of the HFS's.

Fair enough. I see you point and agree fully, but I think even you know that I never sat around and purposefully planned to try and screw you guys -- you are dead wrong.

I was one of the biggest supporters of this board since you started and you know that.

This is old shit - that there is no reason to bring up again.

I would way rather but advertising over here where there are REAL WEBMASTERS that I know what they are doing becasue I do business with them than GFY whick is nothing but post whores and drama queens. That is my stance on it.

So with all of this being said, what can we do to make this right with you guys?

You can stop posting OC Cash threads in the main forum & then bitching about it when we move them to where they belong.

I think that is the big beef.


Group hug now? |party|

Fair enough. I will consider this drama over then.

Any chance you can unlock?
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...579#post175579

It's a lot more of a punishment to your readers are Dareutwo (because I pay him to keep up with it as part of his job) than it is me.

I really don't want people to sign up for WW if they are already with you - even after all of these misunderstandings I've always been sending them to GG&Jim for their getting listed questions.

I too hope it is over now. I will not unlock the thread since Greenie locked it. It is truly up to him.

Fair enough - I have some really good info about the upcoming 2257 court challenge that I will ONLY post on GG&Jim to try to make up for this mess.

I should make a lot of people very happy and it will make them sleep easier at night.

I will leave OC out of it, of course.