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RawAlex 2005-06-25 01:57 AM

SPONSORS: Where the heck are the new banners?
 
I am totally stunned by the number of sponsors out there that have absolutely NO promo materials available for their sites right now.

I know it takes a while to get thing done, but come on, at least ONE generic banner per site would be a start.

I am starting to wonder if I am not going to have to make banners myself!

Alex

ponygirl 2005-06-25 02:27 AM

I couldn't agree more...reading the thread about how LLs are deleting sites left & right, all I want to do is SUBMIT!! :D
my favorite sponsor has not even half of the promo material back up, how am I supposed to make sites without promo stuff?? |angry|

with all this time in the last few weeks you'd think everyone would have been ready for this.

Ponygirl

Torn Rose 2005-06-25 02:28 AM

glad I'm not the only one, I have tried over and over to find banners I can use and still nothing. How long does it take to get a text banner made nowadays?

ladydesigner 2005-06-25 07:41 AM

I've got literally hundreds of free sites that need banners/ads swapped out for this new softcore stuff but I can't find any at my sponsors either. Very frustrating!! Text links are nice and all but that doesn't always fit in with my page designs. What to do.... |cry|

docholly 2005-06-25 08:17 AM

hmmmm maybe we should make some generic banners without sponsor names.. interchangeable.. then just put the sponsor name in the text below.. |cool|

Jim 2005-06-25 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
I am totally stunned by the number of sponsors out there that have absolutely NO promo materials available for their sites right now.

I know it takes a while to get thing done, but come on, at least ONE generic banner per site would be a start.

I am starting to wonder if I am not going to have to make banners myself!

Alex

You could either make the banners yourself or stop driving yourself crazy with the hype.

Cleo 2005-06-25 08:40 AM

I do wish all sponsors would provide layered PSD files so that we could just make our own.

I do know of at least one tranny site that has lots of banners including layered PSD files.

Ramster 2005-06-25 08:41 AM

I promote a lot of bigtit sites plus babes and pornstars and the good thing many of the banners are softcore and not an issue. Gotta love the titties. |mml|

RawAlex 2005-06-25 10:26 AM

Ramster, it isn't just "softcore". Many programs have pulled banners completely because they don't have model releases for the girls on the banners or in the FPAs. Pimproll pulled 100% of their ads, example - even though some of the stuff was good.

Many programs have indicated the continued use of their previous banners would be a violation of their TOS.

Welcome to Rock Hardplace Heaven.

Alex

Useless 2005-06-25 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
Many programs have indicated the continued use of their previous banners would be a violation of their TOS.

You shouldn't read those things. :D

Another fine reason to follow to follow the UW business plan. When a sponsor says "Please remove all of our hardcore banners" I reply "Make me".
"When the DOJ says "My must comply" I reply "Make me".

The sponsors will be the ones hurting in the end of this ordeal. But I'll be rolling around in bail money cause I'm the only one left marketing hardcore sites with hardcore content and banners. Legal, no. Fun, yes!

RawAlex 2005-06-25 11:44 AM

UW, I agree with you, being in Canada I don't feel quite as compelled to do things, but my concern is on programs that choose to shut down accounts because they don't like the content / banners / whatever being used to promote it. I don't think any program would normally be stupid enough to stop people from sending them traffic, but these are not normal times.

I hate it when a program pulls 100% of their promo material and doesn't have any replacements for it.

What they heck have they been doing for the last 8 months?

Alex

Useless 2005-06-25 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
What they heck have they been doing for the last 8 months?

Alex

I'm not sure we really want that question answered. ;) We know that most of them didn't bother to seek legal counsel until this past week, so we can't expect that they were preparing their programs in any manner for these changes. I think they have all been living an old U.S. territory that was recently chartered as a state. Scenic and wondrous Denial.

I'll bet ya that when the new banners come out, there will be a shit load of spelling errors on them because I'm guessing that the outsourcers are working overtime this week.

Linkster 2005-06-25 11:58 AM

Hey Alex - let them start allowing sales in their stats/tracking programs first - then we can worry about banners - it looks like half the sponsors out there needed to replenish their piggy banks from their legal consultations the way sales were turned off starting Monday

Pusher 2005-06-25 12:02 PM

How about posting a list of sponsors that DO HAVE 2257 compliant banners?

Jim 2005-06-25 12:13 PM

Any of our sponsors on GGandJ that feel the need for some hardcore banners are more than welcome :)

Cleo 2005-06-25 12:19 PM

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This is FukingRidiculous.

I really wonder how some of these businesses stay in business.

Here is one of our new softcore non sexual explicate banners. (since sexual explicate is judgment call this what I consider non sexual explicate)

Jim 2005-06-25 12:23 PM

Something MML mentioned to me on the phone yesterday. How come none of the sponsors that have been around forever without changing hands, have released any 2257 information. Maybe some have that I have not noticed but, I do find that very telling.

PR_Tom 2005-06-25 12:44 PM

The PimpRoll designers are working hard to get the new banners and ads and content in place. At huge expense I might add, although I'm sure thats a given.
Some of the sites do have banners already back in place and many many more sites have banners completed and nearly ready to be put in place.

Here is our most recent addition list, added yesterday, which are available now in the promo section:

Amateur Idols
Anal A.S.A.P
Facial Land
Just Hardcore Sex
Lesbian Sex City
Lesbian Suite
Mature Appeal
Maximum Orgy
Tranny Centerfolds
Sexy and Petite
Shemale Angel

U.S. webmasters should visit the free content download section of the site, download the PDF form and fax it back filled in. Subject to review, this will get you access to the database of documentation so that you can have all the docs onhand. I say subject to review because we have no wish to let a surfer join the affiliate program and have instant access to private information such as these regulations require.

We also are redesigning several tours, the first two were released yesterday and you dont need to change links. Always Amateur and Boob Inspector each have new tours so far.

So please know that it is a massive effort we are undertaking and the sheer volume of materials that need to be updated or replaced, together with the short timespan and some difficult to work with primary producers are all factors.
"Burdensome" indeed..

Linkster 2005-06-25 12:59 PM

Cleo - LOL

WHY in the hell is every sponsor out there putting out softcore banners instead of the hardcore ones? If you dont have the docs to back it up I understand - but I would think that you might have one or two hardcore pics in your members area that you "might" have the docs for - so why not use them for the banners? Isnt making everything softcore going a little overboard??? Especially since it doesnt matter when the pic comes from a hardcore set it still has to have the docs if its softcore???

Added - seems to me if you spent your money allowing sales by affiliates instead of getting all new banners made we might be able to promote a few more sponsors

Linkster 2005-06-25 01:05 PM

OK - second rant - why redesign the sites tour pages to be all softcore? Again you still have to have the docs either way - and the frigging consoles you pop are hardcore - so why waste the money? This is not directed at one particular sponsor - just the overall trend the last few days - its just plain stupid and a waste of profits

PR_Tom 2005-06-25 01:17 PM

One example.. the old regs said a college ID was acceptable, and the new ones say they're not acceptable. So "old complaint docs" and "new compliant docs" are simply not the same thing. Also many primary producers from whom promo and tours were designed are themselves holding back until a FINAL ruling. Which means if you use their stuff and want to comply NOW, you have to pull their stuff.

It's a clusterf***..

RawAlex 2005-06-25 01:25 PM

Tom, I would hope that Pimproll would ask it's designers to at least make up ONE winky blinky flashing text only banner for each site to at least fill in the gaps for now. Making 25 banners for one site and not having a single banner for the other site is a bit of a pain.

I know it is not easy. I know it is not cheap.

I am really starting to think I am going to have to make banners.

Alex

PR_Tom 2005-06-25 01:38 PM

http://www.pimp.biz/compliantpromo/
Theres some zips that may not be in the site list I posted, but banners and fpas are in there..

Yeah Alex, I've considered doing that on my own.. I think with ImageMagik you can do that, or with the netpbm programs that most servers should have on them.. or with a photoshop droplet or action or something. It might be something we'll need to do for our own sites like you say as a filler until more are completed. I have put in a request for more text-only promo materials.
Here is a zip of some site reviews. You will need to edit them, but it's one more thing I can offer at the moment.
http://stats.pimproll.com/pr-site-reviews.zip

Useless 2005-06-25 02:12 PM

Feel free to use this fine banner that I created in 32.6 seconds.

Hardcore 2257 Compliant Banner

And
a gay banner.

babymaker 2005-06-25 03:44 PM

hehe love that gay banner UW :D


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