So, we are sooo stupid or what?!
 

I don't know how to start posting here, maybe hi people how are you but that's too cynic...some of my friends told me that I can say what I have here and that person will read coz he's around...I just wanna ask xxxjay...do you think that we are soo stupid or what?! I can't say for other people but if someone sent you about 30k of unique hits on that fucking OCCASH and you gave him couple sales ( less than 5 ) and many of them are just 3$ and all that sales coming from BOOKMARK?! No sale direct from galleries, blogs...NOTHING! What do you think who you are to steal money from webmasters! Maybe I'm crazy bitch but I know what I'm talking about! All I can say to all webmasters...NEVER PROMOTE OCCASH BECAUSE THEY ARE STEALING MONEY FROM YOU!!!

Hehehe

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I do not like to call anyone publically but I have recently started promoting OCCash I just checked my stats as a small fry affiliate and I have sent 1468 Raw and 1108 unique with no conversions all via blog traffic. Not a fair amount for me to judge anything by but if I feel unhappy with conversion rates 6 months in then I would do the same as I would any other sponsor, change it until I find something that works.

Claiming that they are stealing money is a little strong unless you have evidence? Also your figures, please confirm as a couple is 2 and less than 5 could be 4... If I get to 10k unique and my sales are 2-3 then I would move long before it gets anywhere near 30k

Because you're stupid.
As if you have friends...
Then perhaps you should have used his name or OCCash in the thread title.
So far, we all do. ;)

Because you cannot make sales you think they are stealing? |crazy|

Nice 1st post |thumb

I've had many sponsors like that - your traffic doesn't convert that well with them. Pull the links & move on.

Thanks Greenie, I will pull my links thats for sure...

And for Useless Warrior...maybe you should try stick your bald head into xxxjay ass! Maybe you will find something interesting there! Or maybe that will be your first sex experience!

For all other (normal) people...30k unique hits I was sent from my blogs and from blogs only. That blogs have a good SEO and I know that they have good results on other sponsors...that's the reason why I told you all this! Maybe some other webmasters (NON American webmasters, I know why I said that) should share experience and ratio on OCCash with us...maybe then you will understand!

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Welcome to the board
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sometimes something as simple as contacting the affiliate department about links on your website could be very profitable. ask them if they are able to optimize your links or placement for better conversions. working as an affiliate manager, I have to admit I'm shocked at the simple errors people make that cost them $$$$ in revenue!

if that doesn't work, sure, pull the links and find what converts best for you today...and what happen tomorrow is a totally different story!

Useless & Jay don't exactly get a long - and not that he needs me to defend him, but you're post was really bad (especially for your 1st post on a board) & if I wasn't in a good mood today, I might have ripped you a new one as well.


So now it's a non-American issue?

Why is it never the webmaster's fault? I'm big enough to admit that my traffic does not convert with ever sponsor - I have no idea why, but that's the case.

Hell, I'm American & if you look at the last stats run I posted, you can see that I don't do well with every OC Cash site. Some stink for me. Some are doing great. So throw your non-American theory out the window because you have nothing to base it on.

Pull the links & move on - use the sponsors that you say have converted well off that traffic. You tried OC Cash & they're not for you.

Well said. |thumb

I'm far from being Jay's biggest fan, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to say something when some unknown ass hat with an obvious vendetta comes here to trash the guy and the program he works for. You can say all you want about his various tattoos and piercings ;), but I haven't heard anyone call the guy a cheater.

Why don't you look at Greenguys stats or Hoes.com stats? We did ok Greenie. Great for hoes.com. If you have interracial, ethnic, or black traffic, we do great. If not, you might want to try someone else.

We damn sure are not stealing. I have a feeling your friend you refuse to identify is the reseller that we banned yesterday anyway.

In conclusion.

Fuck you.

Welcome to the board cunt.

That's what I was thinking.

My all time ratio for OCCash is 1:3100. I could certainly be doing better but I'm obviously making sales.

Damn, I already spend (sp) my $5 in another thread. This would be worth floating a loan just to see.

Pervert! |boobies|

LOL!

You asked for the opinion of non-American webmasters. Well I'm English, I've never even visited the US, so here is my two pennies worth:

Lussy, I'm afraid you are in the wrong business, you are never going to make even a poor living in porn webmastering, let alone a good one, you have the wrong mindset. I do not use the sponsor in question, so I have no idea if they are good or bad; honest or crooks - but I do know that you will come up with sponsors at both ends of these spectrums, and at every point in between. And if, whenever you think you are being screwed over, you waste time signing up on boards to post angry threads about it, you just haven't got what it takes to do this for a living. If OCCash is not working for you, change sponsors, then forget them. You are wasting valuable time posting angry threads about it, instead you should have used the time looking up new sponsors.

Also, you are going to find yourself dealing with crooks, assholes, and other wastes of oxygen every month, if you cannot deal with a minor problem that one sponsor is not converting well for you, then you are never going to survive.

But most importantly (and this is meant as a serious point), if you get heated about this sort of thing, your health will not last if you stick in this business. Your blood pressure will go through the roof, and it won't be long before you have a fatal heart attack.

Ifyour post was a genuine post (i.e. assuming you did not write it because you have a personal problem with xxxjay, such as he slept with your wife, or posted shit about you elsewhere, and you just wanted to dis' him for revenge), do consider a career change, for your own good. I am not saying this to defend xxxjay or OCCash, I am saying it for your benefit, before you waste years of your life trying to make money in a business you do not have the right temperament to succeed in, and also bugger up your health.

interesting thread hmmm OCCash isnt my best sponser considering they have some excellent black sites and thats all i particularly deal with but for year to date they are 1:836 49 sales .................. |catfight|

their black mother fuckers sells pretty decent for me

Their ratio is pretty normal - 1:800 ...but trial signups don't convert to full membership as often as I want to |sad| . Maybe I should better try pushing them without the trial...