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Llam4 2007-09-09 11:29 PM

New to TGPs
 
Hey all, I'm new to TGPs and the adult webmaster business.

I've created a site I feel is almost ready to be publicized and receive paid traffic, but I'd really appreciate some expert opinions and criticisms before doing so. A few concerns I had in mind are:
1) My sources of revenue. Currently on my pages, I have a few potential sources of income: All the galleries are my own IDs (no-pop, no-console), one CPM banner, one 1:1 banner exchange banner and 3 PPS banners (index page only). The site is designed to hopefully get 3-10 (or more) pageviews per visitor. Are any of these unnecessary, or would be more profitably replaced with another payment service?
2) Revisits. Is my site bookmarkable? The daily updates are mostly intended to bring viewers back day after day.
3) Amount of daily galleries. I am adding 25-50 new galleries per day. Is this too few? Too many?
4) Coherence/Browsability. Is the site too clunky, incoherent or unenticing to want to browse the database or "View All >>" daily updates?
5) Legality. Am I infringing on any compliance laws? 2257 or otherwise
6) Design. Does it suck? Is it clean?

To summarize my main concern: If I bought traffic to this site right now, would it turn a profit? If not, why?

Any and all criticism, whether or not it's on my list of concerns, is welcomed, appreciated and encouraged.

The URL is http://www.velvetbook.com .

Thanks in advance for your time and advice!

jetpat 2007-09-10 12:34 AM

I thought the site looked pretty clean, although, I'm a noob as well. My only suggestion is when the surfer uses the tab to navigate to other pages, open the new page in a new window. That way the surfer won't need to hit the Back button a few times to get to your main page...the one with the Banners! Its easier to hit the "X" button than the Back button. Eh, maybe that's just me, though.

Good luck.

johnnybg 2007-09-10 01:13 PM

I'm certainly not an expert in TGPs, I've never made one.

What I can tell you is that if you look at thehun, there is a reason that banners are positioned on the right side of the gallery listing. You might want to try and experiment with that layout and see if it gets you some extra $.

Surfacing0325 2007-09-10 03:24 PM

Well I'm no expert myself but there are a few thing that I noticed that I felt were worth mentioning.

It took me quite some time to notice the navigation tab, and I was really looking over your site. Someone looking for porn is not going to look over it as hard as anyone here is. You really might want to make it larger, or more visible.

Also, in Internet Explorer your gallery table background has gray stripes which made it very difficult to read the headers and "more" links. However now that I check it with Firefox it looks fine. So you may want to check your site with more than one browser.

Lastly I would get al least one of your ads visible from the get go. Anywhere that on opening your site, the ad(s) are visible.

Llam4 2007-09-10 06:54 PM

Many thanks to everybody has looked over my site and commented thus far, I really do appreciate it. I've noted your concerns and plan to fix them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surfacing0325 (Post 365003)
Also, in Internet Explorer your gallery table background has gray stripes which made it very difficult to read the headers and "more" links. However now that I check it with Firefox it looks fine. So you may want to check your site with more than one browser.

Are you browsing from a Macintosh? I always load my page in both IE and FF before publishing, and the stripes are black in both. It doesn't make sense to me that they could be gray, because the background is an image composed of only black and transparent. Visiting the site now, the layouts are almost exactly the same in both browsers.

Has anybody else had this problem in IE?

Surfacing0325 2007-09-10 07:45 PM

It may be that im using firefox 2.0 thats causing the difference.

Llam4 2007-09-10 07:55 PM

I am also using FF 2.0.
The error was in IE though, wasn't it?

picXX 2007-09-10 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Llam4 (Post 364899)
To summarize my main concern: If I bought traffic to this site right now, would it turn a profit? If not, why?

No.

1: Why do you think they sell the traffic in first place? If there are quality traffic, it would not been sold.

2: You have to compete with the other 10's of thousands fake TGP's out there,

3: I think shemps best advice is something along this lines: "Take a look at the calendar, if it shows 1998, go ahead".

Long story short....to start a (fake)TGP and turn it into profit as of today is a hard, if not impossible, task. There are many other ways you can go to make more profit than with a fake TGP. Some that comes to my mind is....galleries, freesites, blogs, viral marketing, avs sites etc. Look around a bit and you will find good tutorials on all of this.

Good luck with you're endavours in the adult biz :)

HowlingWulf 2007-09-11 10:54 AM

picXX has it right. Never buy traffic to an adult site unless it's already making money on free traffic and has proven it's conversion. I speak from experience as a buyer of TGP traffic.

willwank 2007-10-09 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Llam4 (Post 364899)
To summarize my main concern: If I bought traffic to this site right now, would it turn a profit? If not, why?

Nope. Only in rare cases are bought traffic any good. Skimmed bought traffic is only good in certain situations where you want to grow your site further. And, you actually need some traffic trading experience first to make good use of feeder traffic in any sensible way. my 0.02

Start small and make sure your site is optimized for maximum production. Also work on bringin that se traffic in :)

ArtWilliams 2007-10-09 12:38 PM

I've never run a TGP but from what I've read is that the TGP ship has already sailed. You'd have to buy traffic for years (and lose money) to entice enough webmasters to submit to you. Sorry. I know that is not what you want to hear.


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