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mjgcny 2009-12-11 03:33 PM

Tube site conversion ratio question
 
Anyone that has a tube site here, have you had good or bad conversion ratios to date with the sponsors content being used, since going live with your sites? Or have you seen a lot of traffic that was/is unproductive so far?

The traffic to my tube has been really good, but the conversion ratios suck!

Max@PuZcash.com 2009-12-12 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjgcny (Post 471722)
The traffic to my tube has been really good, but the conversion ratios suck!

I'm sure that's 'normal' for tube sites...

Fonz 2009-12-12 08:01 AM

Why would a surfer pay for porn if he can watch hours and hours for free on your tube?

ed_banger 2009-12-12 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fonz (Post 471749)
Why would a surfer pay for porn if he can watch hours and hours for free on your tube?

Within 4 days of putting up a tube site, I got a sale, and that was just with less than 100 uniques per day to the tube.

mjgcny 2009-12-12 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed_banger (Post 471762)
Within 4 days of putting up a tube site, I got a sale, and that was just with less than 100 uniques per day to the tube.

1 sale is better than nothing, but there's still hope.

Yeah Fonz, too true, why pay for clear quality when you can jack for free to all that fine fuzzy low quality porn out there |crazy|

I never expected any miracles from the start when I put up a tube...right now tho, I'm just thinking about putting one up at a dedicated domain and take it from there.

Thanks for the input guys.

burntfilm 2009-12-12 04:42 PM

Tube Sites are, broadly speaking, "Sharing" sites - not "Selling" sites. Make a site, give samples, write sales text. Make sales.

Create a huge archive of free movies with no sales text - and share your free porn collection. Show me otherwise.

MadCat 2009-12-12 07:05 PM

Tube sites can do okay as long as they're very niche specific -- treat it like an MGP and you will get some results out of it. Ratios still suck though :)

Tommy 2009-12-14 09:13 AM

tube sites are the tgp's of 8 to 9 years ago

everything that was said in this thread was said about tgps 8 years ago

ArtWilliams 2009-12-14 09:40 AM

As long as you're not giving stealing and re-distributing full length clips, "it is what it is".

Saw a legal tube the other day using a trading script!

Simon 2009-12-14 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy
tube sites are the tgp's of 8 to 9 years ago
everything that was said in this thread was said about tgps 8 years ago

So... when is Tommy's going to become a tube site?

|couch|

LeRoy 2009-12-14 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon (Post 471870)
So... when is Tommy's going to become a tube site?

|couch|

Stirring the pot ehh |thumb

flip.green 2009-12-14 02:36 PM

Legal tubes make money if done carefully, make sure you have good writing to match up with your videos and go with a niche you know. This works for us anyway.

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Originally Posted by Tommy (Post 471848)
tube sites are the tgp's of 8 to 9 years ago

everything that was said in this thread was said about tgps 8 years ago

So true, and TGP's are still around everyone said they would kill link lists and free sites which are still aroud too. Makes me wonder how much technology changing really has to do with the habbits of surfers changing.

Senator_x 2009-12-14 11:31 PM

My tube/blog does extremely well with long movies. Upsell the high definition videos.

HowlingWulf 2009-12-15 10:57 AM

HanksGalleries now lists full tube movies from other sites :(

mjgcny 2009-12-16 06:47 PM

Hell, I decided to put up another blog and put effort into that. The blogs have been producing more conversions for me than a tube.

Senator_x 2009-12-19 12:01 AM

MGPs have just grown up.

whitey 2009-12-20 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjgcny (Post 471722)
Anyone that has a tube site here, have you had good or bad conversion ratios to date with the sponsors content being used, since going live with your sites? Or have you seen a lot of traffic that was/is unproductive so far?

The traffic to my tube has been really good, but the conversion ratios suck!

I have looked at buying about 50 different tube sites. I found the average conversion to be about .25 per 1,000 unique visitors, which makes the average barely profitable at todays conversions. The range, however, was .06 to .68. At .35 and above, many of the tubes were quite profitable. Below, .20, they actually lost money, normally to the surprise of the webmaster. I think some of the top tubes with much viral traffic do significantly better, which is why they are not for sale...LOL

I have also looked a vid dumps that seem to average around .80 per 1000 visitors and are normally very profitable.

As a comparison, my blog/SEO network converts at right around $7 per 1000 unique visitors, which I know is quite good. But, it takes alot of effort to get each of those 1000 visitors.

mjgcny 2009-12-20 09:12 PM

As a comparison, my blog/SEO network converts at right around $7 per 1000 unique visitors, which I know is quite good. But, it takes alot of effort to get each of those 1000 visitors.

That's one of the reasons I decided to just go with blogs more than tubes...there's is and always will be that dedicated surfer group(s) who want substance rather than the "quick fix" tube sites deliver. I'm sure that will change in time. It always does.

Anything worth doing will take a lot of effort, but it will pay off in the end.

Daniel_webcams 2009-12-22 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Senator_x (Post 471917)
My tube/blog does extremely well with long movies. Upsell the high definition videos.

Usually tubes are doing well with up-selling long movies

pornsprite 2009-12-24 03:16 PM

I will relate, a phrase, I read from another site. This sentence was like a kick in the nuts to me, when I first read it. "Tube Sites are great for selling everything except porn". This quote came from a old timer in this industry who is converting his sites with hundreds of thousands of uniques a day, over to Tube Sites.

I am relating that sentence out of context of course. This same guy painted a picture of a porn future, with many tube sites selling many products, not just porn. In his theory porn content producers, would do well selling their content, to site owners and surfers alike, thought affiliate tube sites.

Anyway, this is one possible outcome, a win win for everyone, and we lived happily ever after. I was always going to diversify, my sites and not just count on blogs, but have tgps, mpgs, and tube sites.

geirlur 2010-01-02 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pornsprite (Post 472576)
I will relate, a phrase, I read from another site. This sentence was like a kick in the nuts to me, when I first read it. "Tube Sites are great for selling everything except porn". This quote came from a old timer in this industry who is converting his sites with hundreds of thousands of uniques a day, over to Tube Sites.

Choker said that.. but he also admitted that he was wrong when he started to get checks from the links below the videos..

freeporn 2010-01-16 04:40 PM

i made a new tube , it has about 1k unique daily , banner clicks are with the same ratio with my picture gallery site but there is no a sale since that time other is doing regularly.

bDok 2010-01-16 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by freeporn (Post 474049)
i made a new tube , it has about 1k unique daily , banner clicks are with the same ratio with my picture gallery site but there is no a sale since that time other is doing regularly.

on some of my tube sites that are really niched out I've done a couple bucks by making sure to have free signup things on it you get a buck or so for just people giving email addresses and such. It's a couple bucks a month, but it all adds up at the end of the year. |thumb

BNS 2010-01-19 08:16 AM

- get a scraping script which scrapes big tube sites (they start from $30)
- import 1000s of vids hosted on their servers, not yours of course, hosting is still not free
- trade a-b-c hardlinks from your worthless pr0-3 sites so your tube scraper is free from outgoing links to receive more love from the search engines
- forget about promoting paysites - noone buys memberships these days when you can find full scenes on torrents and rapidshare
- put up dating/cams/enlargement ads and make money.
- not to mention that you will do better if you filter out specific niche from big tube sites and make more sites each with it's own niche.

as simple as that :)

HowlingWulf 2010-01-19 08:42 AM

I'd rather not scrape illegal vids to my site and don't want anything to do with those who do.


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