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Heads up to Paul Markham - your mail is SPAM

...according to my ISP's E-mail server...not me. ;)

Here's the message I got...it seems you should add more text:

Quote:

This mail is probably spam. The original message has been attached along with this report, so you can recognize or block similar unwanted mail in future. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.

Content preview: Paul Markham Today we've added 8 sets on Bargain
Basement Content Store: URI:http://www.bargainbasementcontent.com BBCS
URI:http://www.banapro.com/banners/our_banners/bbcs_ban.gif [...]

Content analysis details: (5.10 points, 5 required)
X_AUTH_WARNING (-0.4 points) Has a X-Authentication-Warning header
NO_REAL_NAME (0.8 points) From: does not include a real name
EXCUSE_11 (1.5 points) BODY: Claims you were on a list
HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_10 (0.1 points) BODY: HTML has a low ratio of text to image area
HTML_80_90 (0.5 points) BODY: Message is 80% to 90% HTML
HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_10 (0.5 points) BODY: HTML has images with 800-1000 bytes of words
HTML_MESSAGE (0.1 points) BODY: HTML included in message
MAILTO_WITH_SUBJ (0.0 points) URI: Includes a link to send a mail with a subject
MIME_HTML_ONLY (0.1 points) Message only has text/html MIME parts
MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY (1.9 points) 'Content-Type' found without required MIME headers

The original message did not contain plain text, and may be unsafe to open with some email clients; in particular, it may contain a virus, or confirm that your address can receive spam. If you wish to view it, it may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an editor.

Some ISP's just boggle the mind.

Sorry- I didn't mean ISP, meant Host. :)

This host is actually very good, but I think they implemented a system wide Spam filter. I just posted a message on their board.

Not sure of the point though. Their mail server had to analyze the e-mail, then decide it was Spam by .1 points and strip the body and make an attachment.

I still get the E-mail, but the body of the text is now just explaining what the Spam filter is.

|huh

Hmm. Anyone still have the e-mail to check the header?

I learned my Host didn't turn any system wide spam filter on.

Maybe Paul is using a service that passes though a spam filter?

Beats me.

I've still got it. Here's the header. I don't know what all the stuff means, but here you go.

Return-Path:
Delivered-To: webmaster@1
Received: from pm.isprime.com (66.230.158.74)
by 209.67.60.42 with SMTP; 8 Mar 2004 14:17:23 -0000
Received: from pm.isprime.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by pm.isprime.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i28EHMg8078721
for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 09:17:22 -0500 (EST)
(envelope-from paul_eva@paulmarkham.com)
Received: (from paulmarkham@localhost)
by pm.isprime.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i28EHMEe078720;
Mon, 8 Mar 2004 09:17:22 -0500 (EST)
(envelope-from paul_eva@paulmarkham.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 09:17:22 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <200403081417.i28EHMEe078720@pm.isprime.com>
X-Authentication-Warning: pm.isprime.com: paulmarkham set sender to paul_eva@paulmarkham.com using -f
To: "leatonmw"
Subject: 6 new sets on Bargain Basement Content Store
From: paul_eva@paulmarkham.com
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_404C8072.84C29BD8"
User-id: 3962
X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=5.1 required=5.0
tests=EXCUSE_11,HTML_80_90,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_10,
HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_10,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_WITH_SUBJ,
MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY,MIME_HTML_ONLY,NO_REAL_NAME,
X_AUTH_WARNING
version=2.55
X-Spam-Level: *****
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp)

Looks like his host has it enabled:

X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=5.1 required=5.0
tests=EXCUSE_11,HTML_80_90,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_10,
HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_10,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_WITH_SUBJ,
MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY,MIME_HTML_ONLY,NO_REAL_NAME,
X_AUTH_WARNING
version=2.55
X-Spam-Level: *****
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp)

Makes sense...he has to change some options if he can.

I like seeing his pics appear in my e-mail. :)

yes we have spam assassin and it was picked up on our system. Will show this to the webmasters when they come in and see if they can tweak the system or just disable it completely.

I long for the day when people have to pay for emails, then the spammers will be gone and we can get back to normal life.

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul Markham2
I long for the day when people have to pay for emails, then the spammers will be gone and we can get back to normal life.

Great idea! Costly to us, but still a good idea. LOL

Quote:

Originally posted by Ramster
Great idea! Costly to us, but still a good idea. LOL

i don't think it will cost, natural competition between hosts will keep it right. Let's say they give 500 emails per month for free with every account, then 1,000 for every Gig or $100 you send with them a month. The figures are just my stab in the dark.

Then for extra emails you pay 1 cent, bulk mailers sending out 1 million emails are faced with a bill of $100,000 for a million. Too much to make bulk spamming profitable, low enough for genuine businesses who rely on a mailing list to infrom/promote to their clients.

Less animosity towards "Newsletter spam", less filtering, no need to pay for programds like Spam Arrest, no need to spend an hour or more everyday deleting offers to make your dick, harder longer and more effective. Is that worth it?

There will always be free mail servers, but email programs can opt in or out of taking mail from them. The spammer can no longer hijack your mail server. Do you think he's going to send out a million emails before he sees the money? He will want the money first.

But it's not my idea, it's Bill gates and the best one I've heard about dealing with spam. It's a problem we have to address or sink under a flood of unwanted emails.

Hey Paul,

The last email that I recieved got picked up by Norton as Spam. However, all previous emails have gotten through just fine. You are on my approved list so it must be something different in only the last email sent.

March 8 - Spam
March 5 - just fine

We had Spam Assassin on our server and that tagged it as spam. Can you believe it our own program tagged our message as spam. |sad|

Well Paul we still love you and we still read your emails.