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abatis 2012-07-08 01:09 AM

im imagine this is common but why?
 
it seems the more i regularly submit, the more random emails that make absolutely no sense to a human being i get. i imagine most of you know the type of emails i get but for example:

Subject:
Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed
From:
"PITT.EDU Postmaster" (Add as Preferred Sender)
Date: Sat, Jul 07, 2012 12:23 pm
To: TaniaB1AA5@paysites4free.com
This report relates to a message you sent with the following header fields:

Message-id: <20120712221544.4309D838EB871D741179@BASEL-PC>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:15:44 +0300
From: Alonzo
To: surveys
Subject: Newsletter

Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:

Recipient address: surveys@oafa.pitt.edu
Reason: Remote SMTP server has rejected address
Diagnostic code: smtp;550 5.1.1 User unknown
Remote system: dns;pitt-ht-03.cssd.pitt.edu (TCP|136.142.11.140|46384|136.142.251.60|25)


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yeah it looks like a failed send notice, but i never sent them anything. i actually dont ever send any email from this account, its only used for submissions at this time. so why or what the point is idk.
its whatever, 'mark as spam and move on'


just thought id see if anyone knows anything?


oh , and the to address: TaniaB1AA5@paysites4free.com, doesn't exist. lol. idiots.
-abatis

javbucks 2012-07-08 02:27 AM

My guess is

Spammer sends random emails to your and other addys.
If they receive a bounced message back then they know that inbox is invalid?

I'm guessing you read this message on a catch-all address?

mOrrI 2012-07-08 11:25 AM

It's the spam working...

that email address was probably grabbed from some harvesting bot...
And now... there you go... fresh spam emails...

Bill 2012-07-08 07:29 PM

I get that kind of thing often enough - spammers spoofing addresses.

It is a bit nervewracking.

cd34 2012-07-08 10:14 PM

It is called joe-jobbing. Basically your email address + perhaps your address book may have been leaked. By using your domain in the return address, they hope that the 'open' rate will be higher - it is if they happen to get your address book. Even if not, any bounces don't go back to them, but to you.

The easiest way to prevent this is to avoid using wildcard emails, i.e. anything@domain.com forwards through to your main mailbox.

Setting up your email to answer only to webmaster@ or even disabling email on domains that will never send mail cuts down on it. Using SPF records can also prevent some of this - it seems that most spammers aren't using SPF-enabled domains as often as they use domains without, and they don't appear to be touching DKIM enabled domains (Microsoft's key-based signature system).

abatis 2012-07-09 10:29 AM

oh, yeah, it is a ca account, thanks for the feedback everyone.

-abatis

Charlie 2012-07-09 03:38 PM

what's wrong with a ca account?

cd34 2012-07-09 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie (Post 517481)
what's wrong with a ca account?

catch-all

Bill 2012-07-09 08:38 PM

what are the chances, Chris, that someone has somehow gotten into the mail servers and is using them to send spam?

Thats always my concern when I get these bounces - could it be that I got hacked or exploited?

I turned off the mail service on a domain - and was still getting the bounces.

I also worry someone will complain about my domain to the blacklists.

Is there an easy way to tell from the bounce that it's a spoof?

Charlie 2012-07-10 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd34 (Post 517487)
catch-all

Thought you meant California. Thanks. LOL


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