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(welcome btw)

Thanks, mate!

Firefoxes tabbed browsing system is all it's got... Maxthon has 6 or 7 innovative features but ALL of them actually work! and Maxthon tabbing is almost inarguably far better than Firefox's anyway! 100% of people i know that have tried say that almost straight away!

Firefox's tabbed browsing system is all it's got? How can you say that? I consider tabbed browsing a basic feature in todays browsers. I can't understand how the only positive thing you can mention about firefox is it's tabbed browsing feature.

First - what's wrong with it? It works great, and with a default installation, has all the options the average user needs. Secondly, you can install several extensions to extend the possibilities you achieve from tabbed browsing. For example Tabbrowser Preferences give you a huge set of advanced options you can use to customize your tabs and their behaviour.

Ok, enough about tabs for now.

Lets talk about features. You wrote "Maxthon has 6 or 7 innovative features but ALL of them actually work!".

First - which features of firefox doesn't work?

I'm looking at the frontpage of the english version of maxthon's website now, and I see a list of features there. I assume these are the "6 or 7" innovate features you are talking about.

Lets start off with the first one - "Tabbed Browsing Interface" - no wait, I already did that one. Next.

"Mouse Gestures" - Well, that's innovative. At least it was when Opera "invented" (in browser terms) a few years back. The mozilla page even has a category "Mouse Gestures" for all the extensions regarding mouse gestures. I've been using the "All-in-one Gestures" extension for my firefox, and it works just great! For unexperienced mouse gestures users they even have a extension "easyGestures" which makes it easier to learn and remember your gestures.

Ok - next feature - "Super Drag&Drop". Now - what does that mean, excactly? All I can say regarding this is that firefox supports regular drag'n'dropping (as it of course should).

Next - "Privacy Protection". What's that? Tightening IE's original security flaws and bugs? Blocking (which is redicilous) HTTP referer?

Next - "AD Hunter". For quite some time there's been an extension called "AdBlock" available for those who dislike ads. Like me. I've been using it for about 6 months and it works great. It can block all sorts of ads - regular images, flash banners, iframe banners, everything. And of course, when you add "urls" to block, you can add wildcards so you get rid of the entire ad server at once. When I install a default installation of Firefox it takes me about 2 minutes to set up all ad blocking for the top 10 news pages i visit on a daily basis.

Next - google bar support. Firstly, Firefox already has a google bar clone extension here.

What features are you looking for in the google bar? Searching? If so, Firefox comes with a google search field at the top right side of the browser which can be easily modified.

If it is because of page rank, firefox has had an extension for quite some time named "SearchStatus", which as you can see, displays both alexa rank and google page rank neatly in a small window in the bottom right part of the browser. For those who like stats, but don't like installing a crappy google bar to display it - SearchStatus is your friend!

Next: "External Utility Bar" - Now, I don't know what this means, so i'll just ignore it.

Next and last: "Skinning". Yey - so what else is new. Firefox is 100% customizable when it comes to layout, and it in addition - uses a very cool, open format called XUL to render the gui. XUL is a XML-based format which cooperates with CSS to build GUIs. And - it works great! The GUI is fast, responsive, easy to customize, and more. For geeks interested, check out xulplanet.com!

or maybe just use Maxthon which already does this.. In fact for forms it has a cool feature where you can HotKey copy the contents of forms as a built in function...... and comes bundled with roboform which will do what you want... or just use almost ANY of the IE compatible plugins available already.

Sorry - I won't try it. I might read some more on it though. As you haven't corrected me in assuming that Maxthon disables ActiveX, I won't test it because I'm afraid it will FUCK UP MY COMPUTER like IE can (and does).

I like safe browsing, without giving the website owner power to install any ActiveX plugin he or she wants in my browser! To be honest, I don't understand how anyone would want to build a browser which relies on such a broken product as IE.

OH YEAH! Almost forgot... Any of you Firefox users been missing the Google PR toolbar? Guess which browser has it? ;-)

Oh YEAH .. No wait .. I already told you about the SearchStatus extension which gives you this data and MORE, without installing that crappy toolbar.

And you haven't said a word when it comes to being compatible with current web standards. I understand you, it's hard to throw good arguments when you have a browser which doesn't support .. any(!) standards ..

And c'mon .. all of our lives would be easier with standard compliant browsers!

Quite a long post, but only my two cents however.

Smoke it up!