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I have not looked at Jimbo's sites nor do I plan to look at any of them. I wish he had not used examples from sites with such questionable content because he does make some valid points.
I understand that there have to be rules for the link lists and TGP's because common sense is not so common and there will always be someone more than willing to demonstrate that. It is the right of the link list and TGP owners to decide what they want to list. But, most of the rules are designed to keep surfers happy and coming back to the link list or TGP so there is a greater chance that they will buy something from one of the link list or TGP ads. Anyone who says the owners are interested in the submitters making money is just blowing smoke up everyone's ass. If that's the case, why not split the money made each day with all the sites that were listed? It is not such a symbiotic relationship. The owners know that they will always have a supply of submissions that they can feed the surfers.
I have to agree with Jimbo that the rules stifle creativity and you do end up with a lot of sites that look the same. There are only so many combinations and permutations that a free site with an entrance page, a main page and two pages of galleries can have.
Surfers are desensitized to most of the layouts because they have seen them so many times before.
I prefer to build for SE traffic but occasionally submit free sites and galleries when I want a traffic spike to kick start an internal link list, TGP or toplist. I still see a few hits a day from link-o-rama and cleoslinks for sites submitted over a year ago. But, I prefer to do things my way without following someone else's rules. I'll pop a console on ya in a heartbeat, sucka. Consoles make money and if the link list owners were concerned about my welfare they would allow consoles in their rules. But, if they did I know there would be people popping consoles with all kinds of nasty shit in them. That is one reason I don't use counters. The other being that they usually slow down a page load and I want a surfer to see my stuff. I do not want them to close my page because it is too slow.
When I surf I like to have multiple windows open so I can jump back and forth without waiting for the next or previous page to load. I've already got it open and I just go click the window I want to see. gg, if you just want to use one window that's cool. I don't.
As for the lawsuits and legal action taken against webmasters, that just goes back to the fact that no one wants to take responsibility for their actions. They want to blame someone else for their failures. There are a number of reasons that I would place more blame on the parents of those involved in PK's case - lack of supervision, failure to teach their children right from wrong when they were younger, passing on their dumbass gene to start with, etc.
I report kp sites every time I see one or receive spam in email. Even those that are "artistic". I just close my browser when I get into any of the other stuff involving consenting adults. I'm sure that crap sells but I don't want to see it much less promote it.
This has been an excellent thread with a lot of good points made by all. I just wish Jimbo had used better examples so as not to get bogged down in his content.
Hey, gg. Honk! Honk!
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