Greenguy's Board - View Single Post - How many People Here Only Paid the 50$ fee or FSC memberships.

MadMax · 2005-06-25, 01:28 PM

That's not accurate info Riff. I'm already a member, but a friend of mine just signed up by phone yesterday, and regardless of whether you sign up as a company or an individual they only take one website address. The list to the Special Master will be by name/company, not web address, which means your compliance pages had best be in order and include the name of the company and your name listed as custodian of records. (or just your name as custodian if you don't have a company.)

This is quoted from another board, since I can't remember if GG&Jim mind if I post links to threads on other boards.

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Ok, so there's been some question about what it takes to join the Free Speech Coalition (and how much it is) so a webmaster can be part of the no inspection agreement worked out with the DOJ. Here's what Conner Young, who is on the FSC board posted in reply to Hammer's two questions; how much and about the secret list.

Spread it around to the other boards.

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"Hammer, I have never heard anyone say that it's "per website" at the $300 rate, it was my understanding that $300 is a "per webmaster" not "per website" rate. Otherwise people with like 200 free sites would be hosed. Joining as an "individual" would also get you on the list. Frankly I don't think the DOJ gives a shit if you joined as an individual or a website, as long as the entity that they are looking to check is on the list. They simply provide a name, and if that name is on the list then they don't go further. I will try to verify all this tomorrow if possible, but I'm pretty sure you'd be okay to join as either a webmaster at $300 or if you're hurting for cash as an individual.

I can also let everyone know at this time that the FSC will be setting up a special phone line where people can call in and join or contribute over the phone. As of 6:00 am Pacific Time Friday morning, June 24, 2005, through 2:00 pm, Saturday, June 25, 2005. Call 800.681.0403. Credit cards will be processed over the telephone. Please spread the word.

Regarding the list privacy issue... I did ask that question, and Tom Hymes made a good reply in return. The only way the DOJ will know if you are a member of the FSC through this deal is if they already had you in their crosshairs and knew about you and that you're in the porn business. And if that's the case, them knowing you are a member of the FSC isn't really the issue. The reason for keeping the list private is so that the FSC doesn't create a convenient list for the government that they can use without doing their own homework. Since they already know that I work in this industry, for example, it doesn't really matter if they know I'm a member of the FSC. The webmaster who is trying to lay low, however, will not be exposed as an FSC member unless the government already knows his/her name and that he/she is involved in adult. I think that's a reasonable response, and frankly I'm not sure how else we can get this protection."
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Later post in the thread:
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Hammer, I was confused by Conner's reply as well, so I asked for clarification. Here's what he posted:

"No, it is NOT $300 per website.

Here are your options:

1) Sign up as a corporation. The price will vary depending on your annual income, but your company and yourself and all company employees are covered. That's as cheap as $100.

2) Sign up as an individual. This will not protect your COMPANY should the governmnet come after your copmpany for whatever reason, but it will protect an individual person. Some of you never set up a corporation, and operate as independent webmasters. This would be an option for you, and it's only $50.

Do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT mail in your application today. If you mailed your application today or even yesterday then it will not arrive in time and you're fucked. Call the 800 number at 800.681.0403 and sign up that way. If you mailed it today or yesterday, call the 800 number and sign up again. You can also fax your application if you'd rather.

Unfortunately a LOT of webmasters waited until the last minute to become a member. The FSC is doing the best it can to accomodate everybody, but things like this never go 100% smoothly and the confusion over membership prices is just one example.

One more thing... if you have already signed up, do NOT resubmit your application over and over again. It only slows things down for the FSC. Only re-submit if you mailed your application today or yesterday and don't think it will arrive on time for the Saturday 2pm deadline."
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The FSC is obviously busier than hell right now, but this was the answer my buddy got from the phone signup people as well.

2005-06-25, 01:28 PM	#2
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	That's not accurate info Riff. I'm already a member, but a friend of mine just signed up by phone yesterday, and regardless of whether you sign up as a company or an individual they only take one website address. The list to the Special Master will be by name/company, not web address, which means your compliance pages had best be in order and include the name of the company and your name listed as custodian of records. (or just your name as custodian if you don't have a company.) This is quoted from another board, since I can't remember if GG&Jim mind if I post links to threads on other boards. _____________________________ Ok, so there's been some question about what it takes to join the Free Speech Coalition (and how much it is) so a webmaster can be part of the no inspection agreement worked out with the DOJ. Here's what Conner Young, who is on the FSC board posted in reply to Hammer's two questions; how much and about the secret list. Spread it around to the other boards. doc "Hammer, I have never heard anyone say that it's "per website" at the $300 rate, it was my understanding that $300 is a "per webmaster" not "per website" rate. Otherwise people with like 200 free sites would be hosed. Joining as an "individual" would also get you on the list. Frankly I don't think the DOJ gives a shit if you joined as an individual or a website, as long as the entity that they are looking to check is on the list. They simply provide a name, and if that name is on the list then they don't go further. I will try to verify all this tomorrow if possible, but I'm pretty sure you'd be okay to join as either a webmaster at $300 or if you're hurting for cash as an individual. I can also let everyone know at this time that the FSC will be setting up a special phone line where people can call in and join or contribute over the phone. As of 6:00 am Pacific Time Friday morning, June 24, 2005, through 2:00 pm, Saturday, June 25, 2005. Call 800.681.0403. Credit cards will be processed over the telephone. Please spread the word. Regarding the list privacy issue... I did ask that question, and Tom Hymes made a good reply in return. The only way the DOJ will know if you are a member of the FSC through this deal is if they already had you in their crosshairs and knew about you and that you're in the porn business. And if that's the case, them knowing you are a member of the FSC isn't really the issue. The reason for keeping the list private is so that the FSC doesn't create a convenient list for the government that they can use without doing their own homework. Since they already know that I work in this industry, for example, it doesn't really matter if they know I'm a member of the FSC. The webmaster who is trying to lay low, however, will not be exposed as an FSC member unless the government already knows his/her name and that he/she is involved in adult. I think that's a reasonable response, and frankly I'm not sure how else we can get this protection." _____________________________ Later post in the thread: _______________________________ Hammer, I was confused by Conner's reply as well, so I asked for clarification. Here's what he posted: "No, it is NOT $300 per website. Here are your options: 1) Sign up as a corporation. The price will vary depending on your annual income, but your company and yourself and all company employees are covered. That's as cheap as $100. 2) Sign up as an individual. This will not protect your COMPANY should the governmnet come after your copmpany for whatever reason, but it will protect an individual person. Some of you never set up a corporation, and operate as independent webmasters. This would be an option for you, and it's only $50. Do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT mail in your application today. If you mailed your application today or even yesterday then it will not arrive in time and you're fucked. Call the 800 number at 800.681.0403 and sign up that way. If you mailed it today or yesterday, call the 800 number and sign up again. You can also fax your application if you'd rather. Unfortunately a LOT of webmasters waited until the last minute to become a member. The FSC is doing the best it can to accomodate everybody, but things like this never go 100% smoothly and the confusion over membership prices is just one example. One more thing... if you have already signed up, do NOT resubmit your application over and over again. It only slows things down for the FSC. Only re-submit if you mailed your application today or yesterday and don't think it will arrive on time for the Saturday 2pm deadline." _________________________ The FSC is obviously busier than hell right now, but this was the answer my buddy got from the phone signup people as well.