[JohnnyR]

Hmmm... well, interesting situation I find myself in.
All the things matheusz said are true. I'm not sure what's the "procedure" in this type of situation.

You let me know what's to be done to prove we're two different people and I'll do it. Do you want the story? I can tell it. Does it matter? Afterall it might be just a story.

Do you want detailed explanations for why all your points) are happening, I'll give it.

I was even talking to Vasi about we hosting a webcam conference for whom might be interested, but he said "well they might think you just called in any friend" and he's true for most part too, but if it's any help, we'll do it. no prob.

One thing applies tho: I'm not such a fool that, if I were cheating, I would have hide it this poorly. Do you see any indications I was trying to hide something Mateusz? I (we) were as forthcoming as possible. Let's think about it:

- is realitycash the only sponsor? Nopes, if I wanted to cheat, I wouldn't have been promoting the SAME sponsor with the same content, as you said. As I see it, that one of the things that would raise a flag, isn't it?

- how about domains registered at the same registrant. Come on, it's not like I'm registering to the cheapest registrant around, is it? It's just as easy to create 2 accounts on 2 different registrants.

- similary directory structure, similiar recips. Well, yep. we're using the same software and the same initial database, which then each of us tweaked to match his own preference. We weren't thinking of hiding it, were I one person submitting with 2 of those, were I have not hid it it better? It's not THAT hard, it'll take me less then 15' to change it upside down and inside out.

- what else... yeah the "more then friendship" thing. Well, (ripley's) belive it or not, we're neighbors and more then that we're friends. We're gonna move in together very soon too, so the IP's will look much alike too soon. Anyways, I was saying... he's at my place or I am at his most of the time, so usually we're chilling, and one would say "fuck this, let's go do some work". thus submission times. I don't think they're THAT alike tho, there are enough times when one of us is doing smth else and we're not submitting @ once. By the way, take a look in your admin pannel, and tell me something: did it never happen that the submissions were VERY close? like 2-10-20 minutes? I'm sure you'll find such things there. Do you think 1 person could have done it? considering I have 40 indexes or so and they're all submited and most of them listed to most LL's? Check it out for yourself.

- oh, yes, and # 4). The hub linking. Could anyone be THAT stupid to interlink his own sites he's submitting from 2 different names? I'm sure you have no oppinion of me as you don't know me, but I guarantee you, stupid is one thing I'm not. Nor is Vasi. Most of our text links look alike to. "Borrowing" ideeas happen in this sort of situations. Would have we want to hide this, or would I have been a single person, wouldn't I have hid it better?

I admit, there were other suspicions as well. Those ppl emailed me tho, letting me know, not come on the board tryin' to ruin my reputation (not that I have any), and some of these things I posted here that I explained to them in the email as well must have made sense... cuz you're the first one posting here. Anyways, to shut down these supicions, I practically forced vasi to come sing up on the board and start posting stuff. Which he did a couple of days ago. But he's not a big fan of forums, and he doesn't speak that good english either, so he's posting-shy, hehe. Would I have been 1 person, you can be sure I would have posted with both of the accounts all over this board. Well, anwyays, he's post eager now, lol, but in this situation that doesn't matter anymore.

One thing is for sure tho: we'll stay in the freesites game. We're not running anywhere, we're not hinding from anyone. And I'm not adminiting to something we didn't do either, and this sounds for one of my friends here who said something along the lines "well, they'll never belive you guys anyways, so you might as well say you're the same person and appologise and promise to not do it again". Well, I'm not appologizing, there's nothing to excuse myself about. AND we'll keep submitting like we were before.
Because, in the end, Mateusz, each LL owner will form his own oppinion. I trust some of the ppl I spoken more closely and get to know me a lil' better, allready will keep listing our sites. Others will form their own oppionion about this. Some will belive we're honest, and keep listing us. Some of them won't be listing us anymore, based on your post. It's their LL, they can list whomever they please and I'm not condamning anyone.
If there's anything else I need to provide to sustain our cause, you folks will let me know. I'm willing to give even personal details (in private) like ids and such, if needed, and Vasi agrees to this too. Btw mateusz, I added you on ICQ as well. Anything else you want to ask me about, I'm not hiding anywhere.

Thanks for hearing me out.