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juggernaut · 2005-08-17, 09:26 AM

Well I will come out and say that after the past few hours. Let me apologize to Adam. I should have known better. Regardless of what I think of your company, I do have a great respect for what it has built up to be in the past few years and for that I commend you and the staff. I did ask this person to post their proof on the other board. If it’s a good or bad thing, I really should not say. But it's always been my thoughts that if someone is going to toss shit, they should back it up. Well this person has not posted any proof but it is still early in the day. I did see they added me on yahoo to their list but have not contacted me yet. But 1 check does not make a bad company. And GG I never have bounced one, in fact my FICA score is 810 because I’m an anal fuck when it comes to money. I never missed a bill in 15 years. But either way Adam you may be wondering why I seem to have it out for your company. Well its not that we are running same programs. Hell I could not compete on your level and have stated that in the past. In fact my camsite is failing as of now, and I fully understand your % payouts, why you are paying those levels and the issues you deal with on a day to day basis that come with it. But my issue with your company goes back 2 years ago and as small as this seems I'm sure Hony will back me up on this as I have been very vocal about this on her site. My wife used to work your site, and she is a big earner. She’s not one of the girls who make a cam company 10k a year. More like 50k. Well she was totally shut out from your site when she questioned a chargeback. No reasoning behind it, the tech just deleted her account and mailed out her remaining check when she asked to see proof. I too work with CCBill and I'm sure you know they show you all the reasons for a chargeback. So when a camsite tells a host they have one and then proceed to take the hosts $$ all the while it's CCBill's policy to hold back 5% of every transaction for CB it would seem in my eyes that after 6 months maybe the host should either receive the 5% that CCBill sends back to the site or at least should see the text reason of the CB. It's my personal opinion that allot of sites use this CB as a scam, to fund other programs or just to make extra $$ at the end of the month. Some may not see it as a big deal but many of these girls come from 3rd world countries where a simple $30 CB in one month is a big deal. Over time that adds up. My wife was able to pay her entire electric bill for $60 for the year in RO. The average pay per year in that country is $2000, so give a RO host 4 or 5 CB at $30 each and it becomes an issue. So you can see how this can affect some girls. I'm not trying to be a defender of these hosts. I just think that fair is fair. And many of these girls go threw a ton of shit every day, minute, hour of those days just to make a buck, with no support from the sites that they are making the buck for. The old saying in the states, treat your employees well and they will go to great lengths to work for you. Who consistently side with the paying customer with complaints. Anyway this is one long post and I won’t waste much of your time anymore. How you run your business is just that, your business. I wish you the best of luck. Jugg.

2005-08-17, 09:26 AM	#18
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Well I will come out and say that after the past few hours. Let me apologize to Adam. I should have known better. Regardless of what I think of your company, I do have a great respect for what it has built up to be in the past few years and for that I commend you and the staff. I did ask this person to post their proof on the other board. If it’s a good or bad thing, I really should not say. But it's always been my thoughts that if someone is going to toss shit, they should back it up. Well this person has not posted any proof but it is still early in the day. I did see they added me on yahoo to their list but have not contacted me yet. But 1 check does not make a bad company. And GG I never have bounced one, in fact my FICA score is 810 because I’m an anal fuck when it comes to money. I never missed a bill in 15 years. But either way Adam you may be wondering why I seem to have it out for your company. Well its not that we are running same programs. Hell I could not compete on your level and have stated that in the past. In fact my camsite is failing as of now, and I fully understand your % payouts, why you are paying those levels and the issues you deal with on a day to day basis that come with it. But my issue with your company goes back 2 years ago and as small as this seems I'm sure Hony will back me up on this as I have been very vocal about this on her site. My wife used to work your site, and she is a big earner. She’s not one of the girls who make a cam company 10k a year. More like 50k. Well she was totally shut out from your site when she questioned a chargeback. No reasoning behind it, the tech just deleted her account and mailed out her remaining check when she asked to see proof. I too work with CCBill and I'm sure you know they show you all the reasons for a chargeback. So when a camsite tells a host they have one and then proceed to take the hosts $$ all the while it's CCBill's policy to hold back 5% of every transaction for CB it would seem in my eyes that after 6 months maybe the host should either receive the 5% that CCBill sends back to the site or at least should see the text reason of the CB. It's my personal opinion that allot of sites use this CB as a scam, to fund other programs or just to make extra $$ at the end of the month. Some may not see it as a big deal but many of these girls come from 3rd world countries where a simple $30 CB in one month is a big deal. Over time that adds up. My wife was able to pay her entire electric bill for $60 for the year in RO. The average pay per year in that country is $2000, so give a RO host 4 or 5 CB at $30 each and it becomes an issue. So you can see how this can affect some girls. I'm not trying to be a defender of these hosts. I just think that fair is fair. And many of these girls go threw a ton of shit every day, minute, hour of those days just to make a buck, with no support from the sites that they are making the buck for. The old saying in the states, treat your employees well and they will go to great lengths to work for you. Who consistently side with the paying customer with complaints. Anyway this is one long post and I won’t waste much of your time anymore. How you run your business is just that, your business. I wish you the best of luck. Jugg.