my 2 cents, before you start arguing with people former surffer, check their post count. If they have more than a few hundred or over 2000 (in the case if Torn) you can pretty much figure that if you abuse them you will not get listed in a ton of places. When they have that many posts it means they are part of the big family here AND either a moderator or a friend of GG's.
I would hate to see a newbie fuck themselves over in their first month... well actually thats a lie, I love to see it
I also love to see UW get nasty lol