Sorry guys

but maybe this will make up 4 it. I think I have found a way to speed up free listing on google. I got my site crawled within 5 days - previous site was not crawled for 6 weeks!
Basically if you put your site url in as a search term without the HTTP then you get back eg:
* If the URL is valid, try visiting that web page by clicking on the following link: ukescort.kwikfire.com
* Find web pages from the site ukescort.kwikfire.com
* Find web pages that contain the term "ukescort.kwikfire.com"
Now click on the top link (the other two wont work cos your site aint crawled)
Do this once or twice a day from a selection of IP addresses (mates PC's or get your mates to do it) and google seems to take the hint and index it early!
This was a tip given to me I tried last week and it worked for ukescort.servik.com now trying for kwikfire which went active yesterday.
Dunno if it works on any other SE's but I guess there has to be a mechanism for adding popular sites quickly or they would look like dummies.
Malcolm