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MadMax · 2006-01-09, 11:56 PM

Hey Tranza,

The fact that Ramster came out for you goes a long way. The fact remains, however, that Wazza was absolutely correct. While I understand that it may be difficult to get sponsors to allow Brazilians to sign up for their programs, why is it again that Brazilians can't get domains or hosting?

If what you were doing was OK, then by extension it would be OK if I hired a bunch of webmasters to build and submit freesites and galleries with my sponsor codes.

I've got a couple problems with your story.

First off, (and this is just a "gut" feeling), honest people who've been wronged don't generally try to fix the situation with a "you guys are assholes" attitude like the one you had in the other thread and the one you had when you started this one. Now we've got 3 threads on the same topic so it's difficult to keep track of what was said when.

Being that you've obviously been around for a while (judging by the fact that you registered here almost 2 years ago) AND you run a TGP, how could you think that you and your buddies wouldn't be flagged as multisubmitters? You're also springing for dedicated IPs for each domain, which keeps a quick whois check from flagging the fact that they're on the same server. No money for a $6.95 domain, but plenty of money to pay a buck a month each for an IP? Just doesn't add up for me.

The following tend to be signs of multisubmitting:
--Multiple submits from similar/identical IPs and different identities.
--Same sponsor codes from different submitting identities
--Multiple identities with the same whois info.
--Multiple identities with extremely similar site designs

At the end of the day, you're doing three of the four, and you've been around long enough to know better.

I don't have anything against you (and you don't even submit to me). In fact, I probably wouldn't have bothered posting in this thread if I wasn't named in the title. That said, those domains are not on my blacklist ONLY because Ramster spoke up for you. I would sincerely suggest that you completely revise your strategy in order to prevent getting blacklisted anywhere and everywhere, as most link list owners will blacklist and never think twice...and it will only take one of them adding you to a shared blacklist to put a serious crimp in your traffic.

2006-01-09, 11:56 PM	#12
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	Hey Tranza, The fact that Ramster came out for you goes a long way. The fact remains, however, that Wazza was absolutely correct. While I understand that it may be difficult to get sponsors to allow Brazilians to sign up for their programs, why is it again that Brazilians can't get domains or hosting? If what you were doing was OK, then by extension it would be OK if I hired a bunch of webmasters to build and submit freesites and galleries with my sponsor codes. I've got a couple problems with your story. First off, (and this is just a "gut" feeling), honest people who've been wronged don't generally try to fix the situation with a "you guys are assholes" attitude like the one you had in the other thread and the one you had when you started this one. Now we've got 3 threads on the same topic so it's difficult to keep track of what was said when. Being that you've obviously been around for a while (judging by the fact that you registered here almost 2 years ago) AND you run a TGP, how could you think that you and your buddies wouldn't be flagged as multisubmitters? You're also springing for dedicated IPs for each domain, which keeps a quick whois check from flagging the fact that they're on the same server. No money for a $6.95 domain, but plenty of money to pay a buck a month each for an IP? Just doesn't add up for me. The following tend to be signs of multisubmitting: --Multiple submits from similar/identical IPs and different identities. --Same sponsor codes from different submitting identities --Multiple identities with the same whois info. --Multiple identities with extremely similar site designs At the end of the day, you're doing three of the four, and you've been around long enough to know better. I don't have anything against you (and you don't even submit to me). In fact, I probably wouldn't have bothered posting in this thread if I wasn't named in the title. That said, those domains are not on my blacklist ONLY because Ramster spoke up for you. I would sincerely suggest that you completely revise your strategy in order to prevent getting blacklisted anywhere and everywhere, as most link list owners will blacklist and never think twice...and it will only take one of them adding you to a shared blacklist to put a serious crimp in your traffic.