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Originally Posted by Ramster
Yes agreed. A big problem as you draw the low-lifes of this biz real fast.
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What I was referring to was more of webmaster perception. Yes if the webmaster is making bank on click compared to other programs then they most likely will not complain. But I know if the program is bringing in $45 and paying me $31 and then keeping all the rebills it just "seems" unfair is all I am saying. The numbers are "weird". LOL
I'm only giving input as to what might happen or what webmasters might feel.
And when webmasters read the terms that they only get paid $30 when the member CONVERTS then they might get a negative vibe anyway so it may lose the punch of PPS you are trying to get across I think.
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I see what you are saying and I completely appreciate the feedback. I hope I didn't come off too defensively - I am just trying to figure out a way to sell something that on its surface seems less appealing until you get into the nuts and bolts...
We are left in a very awkward position as a result - I know from talking to the few webmasters that we do have that they do make more with us per click than so called high paying programs. I also know that some of those programs shave the short and curlys off their webmasters. Rick Mueyong of Best Porn and founder of Ynot (with a great reputation for honesty and integrity too) told me he was making four times more when we left CE on even less traffic than he sent them and even though we lowered our payout. (CE paid $50 to $55 and we pay only $30) Our site didn't change. Our marketing didn't change.
As to the "punch" of selling the fact that we are only paying $1 per trial you are right --- that will be more like a tickle. People will laugh at it. Our pay per ACTIVE FULL signup is hard enough to sell already... but luckily we have gotten this far on word of mouth and those that remember how well we sold in the CE programs (where we were the #1 program for a couple of years...)