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Since google reads dashes as spaces and thus interpret the individual words, would a domain name like "amateur-chicks-who-likes-anal.com" be a significantly better alternative to "amateurchickswholikesanal.com" name?

It depends. Too many hyphens in a domain name *may* be a negative signal for Google:

Next, consider this page name:

123244ffgfhdsled99eddgdd.html

It doesn’t take a special tool to know that the URL isn’t user-friendly. Compare it to:

african-elephants.html

But you can have too much of a good thing. It also doesn’t take a special tool to know that this page name isn’t user-friendly:

african-elephants-and-their-habitats-and-diet-and-history-and-extinction-possibilities-and-this-page-is-really-great.htm

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/guest-...eview-session/

Vanessa isn't talking about domain names per se, but there's a good chance the same line of thinking applies across all elements in an url. Consider, for example, urls like hot-amateur-bitches-who-love-cum-on-their-faces.sdk349assd-amateur-coed-sluts.com/aamteur-sex-free-porn-amatuer-pics-vids-p2p.html

Would you want Google to crawl that site?

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DangerDave, you can do better than crying bullshit with no ammo. You're wasting your breath flaming "theories" instead of making your case with counterexamples. Bottom line is you don't have access to Google's algo either, so you're not in any position to judge. Cut the shit and engage in a discussion where people have the opportunity to explore ideas instead of threads turning into a "I'm right/You're wrong/let's take a fucking poll" BS.

I gotta tell you I like talking about search engines. I never claimed to know anything about Google, but this is a search engines forum. Maybe you'd be happier if we just shut it down?

Google is not a compete black hole. There are some things that are hard to pin down, and there are other things that we know as fact with close to 99.9% certainty.

For example, Google weighs BOLD and STRONG equally in its algorithm, according to a Google engineer Matt Cutts talked with. The engineer can be wrong or spreading misleading information intentionally, but I doubt it.

Before I go on, let me just say...

WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT KEYWORDS IN DOMAIN NAMES?

Content quality, branding, good marketing ... what more do you need?
Stuffing your domain name with keywords is fucking cheezy unless you're going over to the dark side.

Having said that, you bring up valid what ifs. I admit John Scott's example isn't bulletproof. Obivously there are alot of factors involved and some factors are co-dependent.

.. and even then.. in their example they do not say, when the domain was purchased, when it was hosted, when it was spidered and how many times it was spidered and where it was linked from etc etc. etc. etc.

Domain age is not a proven ranking factor, although many people seems to believe it. Also, it *may* influence your position but it has no impact on whether a page appears or not at all for a query. If you run the same domain name test on a 10 year old domain named "imwiththegivemeproofcrowd.com", you'll see similar results.

What if.......? Google does not give weight to the domain name keywords until the keywords are used in a page

Buy two domains, freepornrus.com and paidpornrusblows.com. Link to them from one TBPR 3+ domain (for quicker indexing) using URL as anchor text. On freepornrus.com, put up a page with the words "free porn R us" embedded in the text. You need a long tail phrase since you can't run a site: check on two domains simultaneously. On paidpornrusblows.com, put up a similar page (identical HTML structure, different text) also with the words "free porn R us" embedded in the text. Also use "free porn r us" in an H1 on this domain (a pretty weak optimization), so that the domain will rank higher than freepornrus.com with all things being equal. (this prevents arbirary order of the search results). After both are indexed, searches for "free porn r us" on Google (wrapped in quotes, otherwise you'll pull millions of results).

If freepornrus.com outranks paidpornrusblows.com, then your "what if" holds water.

What if.......? Google does not give weight to the domain name keywords until the keywords are used in text linked to the domain

Build two more test pages on the two domains (again, adding the keyword once on paidpornrus.com to prevent random SERP result). Then link to both domains using the anchor text "free porn R us."

What if.......? Google does not give weight to the domain name keywords ..... until you add a 'googlepray' meta tag

Dude, seriously.

Add to that ... the fact that.... any so called "proven" theory about Google.... is only valid for the 5 minutes it takes to write the text that purports that theory... because Google may change what they do every single day.. and none of these theorists will know when, why, or by how much it will change.

You're right. Google's algorithm changes by the minute and different algorithms is said to exist on hundreds of DCs. However, by looking at your "test beds", you'll get a decent if somewhat partial overview of where Google's algorithm stands at any one time.