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samandian · 2006-12-21, 10:34 PM

Happy Christmas to everyone here.

Since I started in this business back in july I can say this has been a huge learning curve and an amazing amount of work, as well as somewhat addicitive.

When starting i was full speed ahead with Free Sites, but have seen minimal sales through these. I am not really sure why as i keep reading that FS are the way to go to make cash, but for me it has not been. I have tried a few different approaches with them, get a reasonable amount of clicks but just can't get the conversions.

So i decided that as i was getting somewhat pissed off with getting no where i would try and build up my fake TGP. Now this is where i have seen the sales coming, it's rolling in by the thousands but for me I can see that if i keep building and improving the revenues will keep coming. I have made a number of different niches and on my second domain have used some of the same niches, but promoted a few different sponsors. First question; Is this what is called mirroring of sites?

I also track all my banner clicks and have played with moving them around, adjusting the text with the ads until i can see what really works for me best. There have been a couple of suprises with Sponsors i thought would do well that just haven't and some i nearly didn't bother with pulling in sales.

My big concern though is the amount of time spent to grow the traffic and keep an eye on it. I was away for almost two weeks, my computer went down just before i left so had no laptop to take with me, in that time my traffic almost halved.

I also find that i have to return and force a lot more traffic than I am receiving. It seems like a "damned if you and damned if you dont" situation - i give away too much traffic and most likely lose sales, i don't give enough and the traffic slows down. What return rate do most of you guys use as i have found 150% gives me the best way of keeping the traffic coming in. However not all my sites have that kind of prod so i run into problems there and find i spend a lot of time everyday checking on what traffic has been sent and received.

It also has me somewhat baffled that for most trades when you sign up you send traffic and get nothing back. This is then dead traffic for me, how is the best way to get trades going. As often as i can i do try and send an ICQ to the webmaster to intorduce myself and let them know if it's a new site etc. Very few responses come back, I realise that we are all very busy, is this just becasue i am still fairly new in the game and my name is known as yet or is it the same for everyone?

Silly questions: Why do a lot of the sites not want a subdomain, but are ok with a second level site?
Why do a number of the sites say they will only trade with a particular niche, but i have seen them trading with a similar niche e.g. Ass niche and fat niche, I am always worried about being blacklisted for signing up to the wrong niche - should i be so worried if i already see them trading with these other niches?

Search Engines: Google I have found is extremely up and down, i have had good returns from Google at times but other times there is nothing. Yahoo seems to be the most consistent pulling in regular clicks, but as a percentage of traffic it is not as high as i would like it to be. I have even experimented with a site where i force no traffic and have tried to build it with relevant words that persons would search for, such as using a models name. That site gets very little traffic and because there is no script involved it took a lot of time to build.

I have been paying INeedHits.com to ensure that I am listed on search engines, is this really worth the time and money or would the search engines be picking the site up anyway?

When i started out i was actually tracking all the countires i was getting hits from (just from a curiosity point of view) - I was able to do this while i was at work without all the firewalls going crazy, but have now given up on that as there are only a few countries left).

I have been toying with the idea of Blogs, but surely these need alomost daily updates and are therefore pretty time consuming. Do they tend to pull in good clicks?

Should i keep building TGP's with a few Freesites here and there? Or is time i started to look at creating a LL or blog?

I am still getting some approvals for Freesites that were submitted 3 months ago - is this normal?

On a final note is pretty amazing what some people get off to, I guess thats why the world is such a wonderful place - we are all so different.

Enjoy your holidays ( and the In-laws if you have them over!!)

2006-12-21, 10:34 PM	#1
samandian WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Paradise Posts: 42	My Experiences and Questions Happy Christmas to everyone here. Since I started in this business back in july I can say this has been a huge learning curve and an amazing amount of work, as well as somewhat addicitive. When starting i was full speed ahead with Free Sites, but have seen minimal sales through these. I am not really sure why as i keep reading that FS are the way to go to make cash, but for me it has not been. I have tried a few different approaches with them, get a reasonable amount of clicks but just can't get the conversions. So i decided that as i was getting somewhat pissed off with getting no where i would try and build up my fake TGP. Now this is where i have seen the sales coming, it's rolling in by the thousands but for me I can see that if i keep building and improving the revenues will keep coming. I have made a number of different niches and on my second domain have used some of the same niches, but promoted a few different sponsors. First question; Is this what is called mirroring of sites? I also track all my banner clicks and have played with moving them around, adjusting the text with the ads until i can see what really works for me best. There have been a couple of suprises with Sponsors i thought would do well that just haven't and some i nearly didn't bother with pulling in sales. My big concern though is the amount of time spent to grow the traffic and keep an eye on it. I was away for almost two weeks, my computer went down just before i left so had no laptop to take with me, in that time my traffic almost halved. I also find that i have to return and force a lot more traffic than I am receiving. It seems like a "damned if you and damned if you dont" situation - i give away too much traffic and most likely lose sales, i don't give enough and the traffic slows down. What return rate do most of you guys use as i have found 150% gives me the best way of keeping the traffic coming in. However not all my sites have that kind of prod so i run into problems there and find i spend a lot of time everyday checking on what traffic has been sent and received. It also has me somewhat baffled that for most trades when you sign up you send traffic and get nothing back. This is then dead traffic for me, how is the best way to get trades going. As often as i can i do try and send an ICQ to the webmaster to intorduce myself and let them know if it's a new site etc. Very few responses come back, I realise that we are all very busy, is this just becasue i am still fairly new in the game and my name is known as yet or is it the same for everyone? Silly questions: Why do a lot of the sites not want a subdomain, but are ok with a second level site? Why do a number of the sites say they will only trade with a particular niche, but i have seen them trading with a similar niche e.g. Ass niche and fat niche, I am always worried about being blacklisted for signing up to the wrong niche - should i be so worried if i already see them trading with these other niches? Search Engines: Google I have found is extremely up and down, i have had good returns from Google at times but other times there is nothing. Yahoo seems to be the most consistent pulling in regular clicks, but as a percentage of traffic it is not as high as i would like it to be. I have even experimented with a site where i force no traffic and have tried to build it with relevant words that persons would search for, such as using a models name. That site gets very little traffic and because there is no script involved it took a lot of time to build. I have been paying INeedHits.com to ensure that I am listed on search engines, is this really worth the time and money or would the search engines be picking the site up anyway? When i started out i was actually tracking all the countires i was getting hits from (just from a curiosity point of view) - I was able to do this while i was at work without all the firewalls going crazy, but have now given up on that as there are only a few countries left). I have been toying with the idea of Blogs, but surely these need alomost daily updates and are therefore pretty time consuming. Do they tend to pull in good clicks? Should i keep building TGP's with a few Freesites here and there? Or is time i started to look at creating a LL or blog? I am still getting some approvals for Freesites that were submitted 3 months ago - is this normal? On a final note is pretty amazing what some people get off to, I guess thats why the world is such a wonderful place - we are all so different. Enjoy your holidays ( and the In-laws if you have them over!!)