Greenguy's Board - View Single Post - Court rulings in 2 well known cases today

Torn Rose · 2007-06-26, 10:03 AM

“In January 2002, students were released from Juneau-Douglas High School to watch the Olympic torch pass by. Frederick, who had not attended school that day, joined some friends on the sidewalk across from the high school, off of school grounds. Frederick and his friends waited for the television cameras so they could unfurl a banner reading "Bong Hits 4 Jesus." (Frederick was quoted as saying he'd first seen the phrase on a snowboard sticker.[2]) When they displayed the banner, then-principal Deborah Morse ran across the street and seized it.”

Ok, so when someone is RELEASED from school for anything, is it now a school sanctioned event? Did they say “if we release you, you MUST attend this?” Nope.

Did he get any trouble for skipping school that day, but still showed up for the event? Nope.

So isn’t that playing hooky and don’t students get into trouble for playing hooky?

She gave the students the day off so *IF THEY WANTED TO GO* they could, he didn’t even bother going to school that day, but showed up ACROSS THE STREET and pissed off the principle who then suspended him for 5 days, until he refused to give up the names for the others so she made it 10 days. Yeah, that is real fair.

“Morse initially suspended Joseph Frederick for five days for violating the school district's anti-drug policy, but increased the suspension to 10 days after he refused to give the names of his fellow participants and quoted Thomas Jefferson on free speech”

The local news started to pick up on it and they realized there will be a lawsuit so THEN she said, “Oh, this was a school sanctioned event” and of course the kid’s lawyers asked the obvious question and asked since when? That is where the biggest argument happens, over was it a school sanctioned event or not.

This is not something I just heard about yesterday, this is something I have kept up with for over 2 years when it first broke the national news, the principles story has changed when she had to justify her actions, the 9th circuit did agree with the principle that it was a school sanctioned event, but also said she did violate his free speech, so Ken Starr was brought in and it was taken to the Supreme Court.

And I still stand by my original post that yes, I think this is total bullshit.

2007-06-26, 10:03 AM	#8
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	“In January 2002, students were released from Juneau-Douglas High School to watch the Olympic torch pass by. Frederick, who had not attended school that day, joined some friends on the sidewalk across from the high school, off of school grounds. Frederick and his friends waited for the television cameras so they could unfurl a banner reading "Bong Hits 4 Jesus." (Frederick was quoted as saying he'd first seen the phrase on a snowboard sticker.[2]) When they displayed the banner, then-principal Deborah Morse ran across the street and seized it.” Ok, so when someone is RELEASED from school for anything, is it now a school sanctioned event? Did they say “if we release you, you MUST attend this?” Nope. Did he get any trouble for skipping school that day, but still showed up for the event? Nope. So isn’t that playing hooky and don’t students get into trouble for playing hooky? She gave the students the day off so IF THEY WANTED TO GO they could, he didn’t even bother going to school that day, but showed up ACROSS THE STREET and pissed off the principle who then suspended him for 5 days, until he refused to give up the names for the others so she made it 10 days. Yeah, that is real fair. “Morse initially suspended Joseph Frederick for five days for violating the school district's anti-drug policy, but increased the suspension to 10 days after he refused to give the names of his fellow participants and quoted Thomas Jefferson on free speech” The local news started to pick up on it and they realized there will be a lawsuit so THEN she said, “Oh, this was a school sanctioned event” and of course the kid’s lawyers asked the obvious question and asked since when? That is where the biggest argument happens, over was it a school sanctioned event or not. This is not something I just heard about yesterday, this is something I have kept up with for over 2 years when it first broke the national news, the principles story has changed when she had to justify her actions, the 9th circuit did agree with the principle that it was a school sanctioned event, but also said she did violate his free speech, so Ken Starr was brought in and it was taken to the Supreme Court. And I still stand by my original post that yes, I think this is total bullshit.